Advice for a 1080p LCD at 60hz!

[Cigarjohn]

I have a 1929x1200 monitor at 1080p, 60hz and was looking at getting a 1080 TI GPU. I know that this card will be way overkill for this monitor. But until my monitor of 6+ years dies on me and replaced with a 4k monitor, my question is, if I get a 1080 TI, max everything out including antialiasing and anisotrophic filtering, will it hinder game performance by creating CPU Bottlenecks?

(i7-7700k CPU with no over-clock)

And how about the 1070, 1060 or 1050 cards. Will they be a better fit for me as well and why?

And if the 1080 TI is an over-kill card for 1080p monitors, why would all the manufacturers include a DVI port on the card?

Only using a single monitor Viewsonic VP2655bb.

Thanks to those replying to this post. Have a great year!

 

[Dawelio]

I'm not the most qualified to answer your questions, but out of my own experience, this is what I would say and anyone else may freely and please do correct me if I'm wrong here.

Since you have an 7700K and an 1080 Ti, I don't think there will be a CPU bottleneck. As current technology work so well with eachother that bottlenecks are hard to come by with such top of the line hardware.

Regarding the lower end cards, it all depends I would say. Right off the bat regarding better fit for you, is financially yes they will all be. They will take a significant less blow on your bank account than the 1080 Ti will, that's for sure.

Obviously they will struggle with games at 4K, as that is a very demanding resolution, even with todays GPUs.
Specially if you're planning on cranking the settings up, then even the 1080Ti might have a hard time, even though it might be capable of 4K in certain games.

With 4K, if I'm not mistaken here, you're limited to 60Hz at the moment. If you'd ask me, I would ask you why 4K? I have personally never run 4K, as I never really seen the value or point of it.
I run an 144Hz, 1440p monitor and I love it. Don't need anything more than this and it's a lot less demanding on the GPU than 4K is.

Plus, I have also seen several members on here, Dicey (Dicehunter) and maybe even Alien, being few of them, having own an 4K and being back on 1440p now. As he realized it's not "worth" it and nothing special really.

Yes, the 1080 Ti is an overkill card for 1080p and the reason they include a DVI port on the card, is for those that still hasn't upgraded to a monitor with DisplayPort yet, for example.

And another factor is multi monitor setups, where you can have an external monitor for such as Teamspeak, music etc while gaming, connected to the DVI port. Since it most likely won't require such standards of "gaming", or whatever you'd like to call it, as DisplayPort support.

Ie, 144Hz, as having 144Hz for just monitoring different programs etc isn't needed really and therefore a simple DVI port is more than adequate for the job. This is what I have done personally in the past, when I've run more than 1 monitor and run out of DisplayPort ports etc on the GPU.

Again, I'm not the most qualified regarding this. These are just my thoughts on it all and and what I think regarding your questions.
Other people here will most likely give you a better suited answer to your questions.

 

[Cigarjohn]

Thank you for replying back to me so quickly. I don't own either the i7-7700k or a GPU. I'm still running a i7-4790k with integrated video. Integrated video works fine with games like Battlefield 4, GuildWars2, Counter Strike Global Offense to name a few. A little sketchy on Battlefield 1 the newer version.

But I'm planning on building a Z270 system very shortly and was looking at the 1080 TI cards out there. I wasn't planning on using 4k for gaming. Just for movie viewing. I am happy with the 1080p world but definitely want to dive into the 1440p world.

My monitor is still good and not worth selling so until it dies on me, I'll still be in the 1080p world. But when it dies, I'll probably get an Asus ROG PG27AQ 4K/UHD monitor.

 

[S_I_N]

my gtx1080 hovers at 55-70 fps on my 3440x1440 monitor if that helps rest of rig is in sig

 

[Cigarjohn]

my gtx1080 hovers at 55-70 fps on my 3440x1440 monitor if that helps rest of rig is in sig

Awesome, was looking for possible bottlenecks for 1080p at 60 or 59 hz if any.

 

[Cigarjohn]

my gtx1080 hovers at 55-70 fps on my 3440x1440 monitor if that helps rest of rig is in sig

Any bottoleneck on CPU for your two SSD's in a RAID 0 configuration?

 

[Avet]

Don't consider yourself with CPU "bottlenecks". As Tom said gazilion times before it is a term used by noobs. Using 1080 Ti for 60Hz 1080p resolution is absolute overkill, and utterly pointless. To the point that all kinds of strange things happen. CPU is not the only limiting factor in those cases. Not all game engines are designed to run at insane FPS. GTA V develops glitches above 180 FPS. WoW caps at 200 FPS. 1060 will be spot on for 1080P at 60Hz. 1070 will run all games on 1080p well above 60Hz and be perfect for 1440p 60Hz. I would recommend 1080 for 1440p with 100+ Hz monitors.

If you plan on keeping your monitor don't go above 1070. 1070 is more than enough for everything that you will ever need.

4K is just not worth the money now. If you plan on using your PC for gaming only don't go above 7600K. There is no gain at all. Maybe marginal in specific cases but not worth the money.

Edit: Any HDD is good for gaming. Running SSDs in RAID 0 won't win you more frames, and in many cases won't speed your load times a large amount.

 

[Cigarjohn]

Thank you Avet for your reply. I'll take your advice and consider the 1060 and when and if my monitor should die on me, then I will get a monitor at the 144mhz range and will get a better card for the 1440p world. Plus it does make sense to get a budget card now to save up for a better card down the road as newer cards and monitors surface.

Have a great summer!

 

[SPS]

Edit: Any HDD is good for gaming. Running SSDs in RAID 0 won't win you more frames, and in many cases won't speed your load times a large amount.

Running a game from an SSD rather than a HDD will help load times a fair bit, unless of course it requires connecting to the internet, then that will be the slowest part.

 

[Cigarjohn]

Ok, thanks for your info and reply.

 

[alchemist83]

I went 144mhz a few years ago now and its the best thing I've ever done. Seriously 120mhz should be everyones min. Just try it, its so so smooth. You can see the difference, even on the Windows desktop with the animations. I cannot play FPS on 60mhz anymore. Its terrible to me. 144mhz is like a g card upgrade visually. The way I test and show people the difference is in FPS like COD3 - I just turn around on the spot constantly. In 60mhz you cannot see because of the blur, but in 144mhz you can see, its seamless. 1440p is a way off yet I would say. Get the mhz upgrade, I swear you will not regret it and you will never go back to 60mhz!

 

[Korreborg]

Okay the thread is a bit old. You don't wan't to change a 60Hz monitor, but want to change your i7 4790k???? It makes no sense at all.

What are your budget? New monitor and a ned GFX is all you need.
My 4790k + 1080Ti runs like a charme.

 

[Cigarjohn]

Yeah your right. Was now thinking of keeping my 4790k and just adding a 1070 to my system until my monitor dies on me. That should be good enough for my 1080p gaming with everything maxed out. But in the future, wanted the 4k monitor for movie viewing but only gaming in 1440p. Single monitor setup.

Asus Z97 Pro Gamer
Intel i7-4790k stock clocks
Mushkin DDR3 16gb 7 latency
(3) Crucial M4 256kb SSD
Asus Xonar Xense Sound Card
Logitech G510, G13, G502
Asus 3.1 add on card
Blu-Ray Burner/writer (Might be Plextor)
Noctua NH-U14S (Push/Pull)
Artic Silver 5

Antec HCP-1300 Platinum (Don't ask, about the PSU) Way overkill in power for this build. Was free from Antec after my old Antec PSU, that was still under warranty but couldn't be replaced as the HCP 1200 was discontinued, fried my old Z68 sytem.

 

[Korreborg]

I really don't get the "until my monitor dies on me"

High frame rate gaming is like an SSD. You don't know how much you have missed out on, until you get it And G-sync is also great

 

[Wraith]

Just throw a 1070 in the build and you're good to go. I'm running a 4790k, 8GB Ram and 1070 right now on a 27" 1080p IPS 1ms screen and it's bliss for Photoshop and Blender, as for gaming I max everything out and game a lot :lol: you'll have no issues.

EDIT: I should add I also run a second 24" 1080p monitor for hardware monitoring and multiple chats including Discord and Whatsapp.

 

[Cigarjohn]

I really don't get the "until my monitor dies on me"

High frame rate gaming is like an SSD. You don't know how much you have missed out on, until you get it And G-sync is also great

My monitor was a gift to me by my father before he passed. So I don't want to upgrade to another monitor until this monitor stops working. It has sentimental value to me. If I put it away or don't use it, that's a waste. It's still performing well and at 20+ ms I have never encountered any type of frame tearing or ghosting by any game or software product. I know more advanced monitors are less than 4ms, but at 20ms, I have never encountered any issues.

Monitors don't last forever. When this monitor stops to work then I'll purchase a new monitor. I can't just chuck this monitor in the trash if it still works good. I have a personal attachment to it if you understand. It's not the value of the monitor, it's what my father and I used it for together. It may sound crazy or silly, but it still has some meaning to me.

I hope you understand where I'm coming from. I'm sure I'm missing a lot out of life, but that's ok. Like the saying say's, "Good things come to those who wait"!

Just throw a 1070 in the build and you're good to go. I'm running a 4790k, 8GB Ram and 1070 right now on a 27" 1080p IPS 1ms screen and it's bliss for Photoshop and Blender, as for gaming I max everything out and game a lot :lol: you'll have no issues.

EDIT: I should add I also run a second 24" 1080p monitor for hardware monitoring and multiple chats including Discord and Whatsapp.

Ok, sounds real good. I like to talk to people who are somewhat on my same level of equipment and gaming levels. I really appreciate your advice. I'll go that route. Thanks a bunch!

 

[AlienALX]

DSR 1440p for gaming.

 

[Korreborg]

My monitor was a gift to me by my father before he passed. So I don't want to upgrade to another monitor until this monitor stops working. It has sentimental value to me.

Are in that way. 100% understandable. But as Wraith mentions. It can be used as a second monitor. Usually a monitor don't just die, you can use it for many years to come.