Wraith Ripper PCIe Issue - GPU case mod - fix

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Wraith Ripper PCIe Issue - GPU case mod - fix

 

[Sheridan]

Dual GPUs

Would your solutuon work for dual gpu's

 

[FTLN]

Whats the performance hit when using that pci-e riser ?

I have around 5-10% hit using my Thermaltake premium riser 200mm...

 

[trawetSluaP]

Whats the performance hit when using that pci-e riser ?

I have around 5-10% hit using my Thermaltake premium riser 200mm...

I didn't realise there was a performance loss when using riser.

 

[Wraith]

I didn't realise there was a performance loss when using riser.

If there is I'm not seeing it, I'm using the Coolermaster Vertical GPU Kit. :huh:

 

[NeverBackDown]

The performance loss comes from the card being too close to the side panel and therefore heat gets trapped and therefore lowers clocks.

If you get it further away from the side panel it'll be fine

 

[WYP]

The performance loss comes from the card being too close to the side panel and therefore heat gets trapped and therefore lowers clocks.

If you get it further away from the side panel it'll be fine

Ahh, so you are saying that it is Nvidia boosting their GPU less due to decreased airflow and higher temps?

That is a big problem for cases with native vertical mounts. very close to windows, especially for cards that are more than two slots thick.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Ahh, so you are saying that it is Nvidia boosting their GPU less due to decreased airflow and higher temps?

That is a big problem for cases with native vertical mounts. very close to windows, especially for cards that are more than two slots thick.

I'm surprised you didn't know this? That's why we had those vertical GPU solutions come out during Computex earlier this year. It was to avoid the thermal issue

 

[trawetSluaP]

I thought it was meant that there's a decrease in performance as a result of the riser cable, not the space restrictions.

 

[WYP]

I'm surprised you didn't know this? That's why we had those vertical GPU solutions come out during Computex earlier this year. It was to avoid the thermal issue

I was clarifying, in your earlier post, I thought you were referring to losses from the cable itself and was thinking that 5-10% was super high for what should be a premium cable. 1ish % should be as high as it gets outside of cheapo risers.

My post started with "Ahh", as in "Ahh, now the 5-10% now makes sense" kinda way. Or at least that was how it went down in my head. Lol.

At least the next person on this thread will know exactly where the performance loss comes from. A good PCIe riser cable has a negligible performance impact, nobody noticed a 1% difference.

 

[trawetSluaP]

I was clarifying, in your earlier post, I thought you were referring to losses from the cable itself and was thinking that 5-10% was super high for what should be a premium cable. 1ish % should be as high as it gets outside of cheapo risers.

My post started with "Ahh", as in "Ahh, now the 5-10% now makes sense" kinda way. Or at least that was how it went down in my head. Lol.

At least the next person on this thread will know exactly where the performance loss comes from. A good PCIe riser cable has a negligible performance impact, nobody noticed a 1% difference.

My riser cable came with my Phanteks case. Wonder if it would be considered premium.

 

[FTLN]

The performance loss comes from the card being too close to the side panel and therefore heat gets trapped and therefore lowers clocks.

If you get it further away from the side panel it'll be fine

Here is a comparison : https://videocardz.com/review/pci-express-riser-extender-test

I got a waterblock on mine and temp never goes over 50c, and there is definitely a performance drop benching this card with timespy extreme, 4850'ish with the riser and 4999ish in the pci-e slot, tested multiple times.

Using this currently which is the best I have had so far, cheaper ones are just not reliable : Thermaltake TT Premium PCI-E 3.0 Extender – 300mm : https://www.thermaltake.com/Chassis...T_Premium_PCI_E_3_0_Extender_300mm/design.htm

And its not 100 stable, very randomly maybe once a month I get a screen like this :

 

[trawetSluaP]

I got a waterblock on mine and temp never goes over 50c, and there is definitely a performance drop benching this card with timespy extreme, 4850'ish with the riser and 4999ish in the pci-e slot, tested multiple times.

That's about 3%. Not bad at all.

 

[NeverBackDown]

I thought it was meant that there's a decrease in performance as a result of the riser cable, not the space restrictions.

I was clarifying, in your earlier post, I thought you were referring to losses from the cable itself and was thinking that 5-10% was super high for what should be a premium cable. 1ish % should be as high as it gets outside of cheapo risers.

My post started with "Ahh", as in "Ahh, now the 5-10% now makes sense" kinda way. Or at least that was how it went down in my head. Lol.

At least the next person on this thread will know exactly where the performance loss comes from. A good PCIe riser cable has a negligible performance impact, nobody noticed a 1% difference.

I don't see how you could get confused when I never mentioned the cable I just talked about heat, space restrictions, lower boost clocks? I don't see how I could have been more clear

But yes riser cables are fine so long as they aren't cheap. I would love to use one in my ITX case but not sure if it would mess with airflow for such a small case

 

[trawetSluaP]

I don't see how you could get confused when I never mentioned the cable I just talked about heat, space restrictions, lower boost clocks? I don't see how I could have been more clear

But yes riser cables are fine so long as they aren't cheap. I would love to use one in my ITX case but not sure if it would mess with airflow for such a small case

My confusion came from FTLN's original post, not one of yours

 

[WYP]

I don't see how you could get confused when I never mentioned the cable I just talked about heat, space restrictions, lower boost clocks? I don't see how I could have been more clear

But yes riser cables are fine so long as they aren't cheap. I would love to use one in my ITX case but not sure if it would mess with airflow for such a small case

My confusion came from FTLN's original post, not one of yours

Same, it was FTLN's original post.

 

[radus]

I didn't realise there was a performance loss when using riser.

There isn't, unless you do something wrong or the riser is absolutely crap.

 

[FTLN]

There isn't, unless you do something wrong or the riser is absolutely crap.

And most bundled pci-e risers out there are crap, that was my original point of asking what the loss of performance with riser was.