780 ti or 780 build

[William.dry]

Hi, deciding on parts and bit confused as what to go with, please note in both options the case will be the NZXT H440 when it gets releases, and on the 780 TI build, it wont be the stock EVGA card, it will be Gigabyte's windforce 3 card. Thanks for the help in advance

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£171.59 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£25.18 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£101.98 @ Dabs)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB ) DDR3-1600 Memory (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£68.90 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card (£520.00)
Case: Antec P193 ATX Mid Tower Case (£95.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£87.18 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1135.81


CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£171.59 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£87.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-GD65 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£134.61 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB ) DDR3-1600 Memory (£64.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£79.86 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (£389.00 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT Phantom 530 White ATX Full Tower Case (£97.84 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 37.9 CFM 120mm Fans (£19.98 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£87.18 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1133.04

 

[NeverBackDown]

I would get the Sapphire Tri-X OC cooler on the R9 290. When moderately overclocked it gets damn near on the 780ti heels. Its also faster vs the 780 and cheaper as well. At least it is here in the states.

No point in including the the two case options you selected when you plan on getting the H440. the H440 is supposed to be about 100 pounds.

If you ever plan on Xfire/SLI then i would highly suggest a 750watt psu. If not then stick with the one you selected.

I see the SSD you have chosen is from two different web stores yet is much cheaper from the first build.. mine as well get it from them?

Other than that its all compatible.

 

[Vlada011]

That Radeon is hot as Devil. I can't belive on TPU R9-290X with one of best cooling DirectCUII reach 78-94C depend of BIOS. How many space for OC have on such cards. From experience I know If review say 78 that's 80-82 in case...
Card is pushed some 10% from AMD because competition for NVIDIA.
No talking about some higher clocks as on HD7950 and similar cards before.
Water cooling is only and best solution for people who want to OC Radeon. From other side both GTX780 and GTX780Ti have more space for OC.

 

[NeverBackDown]

That Radeon is hot as Devil. I can't belive on TPU R9-290X with one of best cooling DirectCUII reach 78-94C depend of BIOS. How many space for OC have on such cards. From experience I know If review say 78 that's 80-82 in case...
Card is pushed some 10% from AMD because competition for NVIDIA.
No talking about some higher clocks as on HD7950 and similar cards before.
Water cooling is only and best solution for people who want to OC Radeon. From other side both GTX780 and GTX780Ti have more space for OC.

I can only understand the bold....
The DCU2 is not the best R9 290 cooler. The Sapphire Tri-X card is. It is also more quiet.

Watercooling any card is for people who are serious about overclocking. The R9 290/290x cards can overclock. They just need the better cooler which, again, the Tri-X cooler provides.

 

[SeekaX]

I can only understand the bold....
The DCU2 is not the best R9 290 cooler. The Sapphire Tri-X card is. It is also more quiet.

Watercooling any card is for people who are serious about overclocking. The R9 290/290x cards can overclock. They just need the better cooler which, again, the Tri-X cooler provides.

both the 780 and the 290 tri-x would probably satisfy him, performance should be equal depending on the game (don't forget that the 780 is a good overclocker as well). the 290 is a tad cheaper, but i really don't like the colors of the tri-x, i personally would be willing to pay the extra 20-30 euros for the better looking card.

 

[Warchild]

Well going back on topic to the 780vs 780ti. It depends on your budget. The price of the 780 has drastically dropped, even for the 780 Classy.

If you want to get the Epeen value in and money is no concern go for the 780Ti as the performance is outstanding in comparison.

Alternatively, if you did choose the 780, you will have money left over to possible get a second card later on. Its all about price vs performance really. 780 cards do not disappoint.

And I haven't made any comment on Radeon cards because that is not what the OP asked for.

 

[Edge]

If you need value for money, get an aftermarket 290 or 780. If you want e-peen, then you should grab the 780Ti.

 

[Dicehunter]

If you want the best, Then a 780 Ti is for you but don't bother going for the non reference version they aren't much better and they a retard expensive, If your budgeting then a pre-owned 780.

That Radeon is hot as Devil. I can't belive on TPU R9-290X with one of best cooling DirectCUII reach 78-94C depend of BIOS. How many space for OC have on such cards. From experience I know If review say 78 that's 80-82 in case...
Card is pushed some 10% from AMD because competition for NVIDIA.
No talking about some higher clocks as on HD7950 and similar cards before.
Water cooling is only and best solution for people who want to OC Radeon. From other side both GTX780 and GTX780Ti have more space for OC.

The OP did not ask about AMD and DCUII is not the best for air cooling, Please do some homework.

 

[William.dry]

well my budget is around £1150, and i should mention that im playing on a 1920 1080 monitor, but i am planning on upgrading to 3 monitors in the future.

and i know i didnt ask about AMD cards, but i am always open for suggestion, this is my first build and i want to do it right so any help i can get would be great

 

[Dicehunter]

well my budget is around £1150, and i should mention that im playing on a 1920 1080 monitor, but i am planning on upgrading to 3 monitors in the future.

and i know i didnt ask about AMD cards, but i am always open for suggestion, this is my first build and i want to do it right so any help i can get would be great

780 Ti ! ^_^

 

[Warchild]

780 Ti ! ^_^

+1 This would have been my choice if I had known they were coming. Luckily i am very happy with my 780s.

 

[William.dry]

i have just been looking at the R9 290x Tri-x Edition card, and the benchmarks seems to be on par with stock 780ti, and for around £100 cheaper, is there any major advantages / disadvantages for the 780ti for that extra £100?

 

[barnsley]

That Radeon is hot as Devil. I can't belive on TPU R9-290X with one of best cooling DirectCUII reach 78-94C depend of BIOS. How many space for OC have on such cards. From experience I know If review say 78 that's 80-82 in case....

The Asus card is crap. As Never said, the Sapphire 'card. The Sapphire one can be overclocked and the temperatures are fine in it.

i have just been looking at the R9 290x Tri-x Edition card, and the benchmarks seems to be on par with stock 780ti, and for around £100 cheaper, is there any major advantages / disadvantages for the 780ti for that extra £100?

The 780ti is more powerful stock and I think it has slightly lower power draw. The 290x Toxic is cheaper and as mentioned performs fantastically. The simple factor in all of this is whether you're happy to pay the extra £100 for around 10-30 more fps (depending on game obvs). I've worked with Toxic cards and they are incredible, only issue being that they do have a higher power draw than normal 'cards from the other manufactorers.

 

[William.dry]

So if you guys were in my shoes, what would you go for and why?

 

[Dicehunter]

So if you guys were in my shoes, what would you go for and why?

If you have the money this is the order I would get, From highest to lowest - *In My Opinion*

780 Ti
290X
290
780

 

[SeekaX]

So if you guys were in my shoes, what would you go for and why?

if you won't do high res gaming then get a 780/290, whichever you think looks better and then get a new card sooner rather than buying a 780ti, not really using the extra performance and then having to wait longer for a new card because you spent more money.
more cards = more happiness.

 

[Kaapstad]

That Radeon is hot as Devil. I can't belive on TPU R9-290X with one of best cooling DirectCUII reach 78-94C depend of BIOS. How many space for OC have on such cards. From experience I know If review say 78 that's 80-82 in case...
Card is pushed some 10% from AMD because competition for NVIDIA.
No talking about some higher clocks as on HD7950 and similar cards before.
Water cooling is only and best solution for people who want to OC Radeon. From other side both GTX780 and GTX780Ti have more space for OC.

One of my hot 290Xs will thrash your KPE 780ti on 3dmark firestrike now do your homework.

OP the difference in performance between a GTX 780 and 780ti is about 10% to 15%, they are both very nice cards as well. What you need to decide is whether the extra performance of the 780ti is worth the extra money.

 

[Dicehunter]

One of my hot 290Xs will thrash your Kingpin Edition 780 Ti on 3dmark firestrike now do your homework.

This Mr Kaapstad is why your awesome ^_^

 

[SieB]

Also, a note on why the Asus DCUII 290/x is hotter and louder than the other non ref 290/x is because Asus cheaped out. Instead of making a separate DCUII cooler especially for the 290/x they used the same one that they used on the 780Ti DCUII and slapped it on the 290/x.
One of the heatpipes on the cooler doesn't even touch the core.

As for the OP's question, the 290 and 780 are practically the same performance wise. One is faster in some games and one is faster in others. Make your choice on features such as Physx/Mantle or whatever between the 780 and 290.

The 290X really isn't worth the extra over a 290, you aren't going to see or notice the difference in games, only benchmarks.

The 780Ti is the fastest, most of the time unless you have FRAPS running you wouldn't notice the difference though. But there are some games when maxed at higher resolutions you would notice the difference. As mentioned above though, is that extra performance worth the premium you pay for it? Only you can answer that one.

 

[SeekaX]

Also, a note on why the Asus DCUII 290/x is hotter and louder than the other non ref 290/x is because Asus cheaped out. Instead of making a separate DCUII cooler especially for the 290/x they used the same one that they used on the 780Ti DCUII and slapped it on the 290/x.
One of the heatpipes on the cooler doesn't even touch the core.

As for the OP's question, the 290 and 780 are practically the same performance wise. One is faster in some games and one is faster in others. Make your choice on features such as Physx/Mantle or whatever between the 780 and 290.

The 290X really isn't worth the extra over a 290, you aren't going to see or notice the difference in games, only benchmarks.

The 780Ti is the fastest, most of the time unless you have FRAPS running you wouldn't notice the difference though. But there are some games when maxed at higher resolutions you would notice the difference. As mentioned above though, is that extra performance worth the premium you pay for it? Only you can answer that one.

i suppose with a 144hz monitor you'd notice a difference but he probably doesn't have one.