1000 GBP Build Ryzen or Intel

Atham

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Hi,

I was thinking of the following AMD Ryzen 5 1600 build for uni:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£187.14 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard (£74.47 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£131.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£83.97 @ BT Shop)
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£68.95 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card (£303.23 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design - Define C ATX Mid Tower Case (£72.67 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£79.99 @ Box Limited)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£83.70 @ Aria PC)
Total: £1086.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-06 09:59 BST+0100

However, I am unsure whether I should go with Intel due to better stability and cooling. I was considering a mini-ITX or m-ATX build so that portability is better when moving. If there is an intel alternative that would be mini-ITX then I would rather go for that, given that the performance in games is not that different.

Thanks
 
You can get a lot of similar components for cheaper in other places. Here is a 6GB GTX 1060 for £248.99 @ OCUK. The factory overclock will be a little different, but it won't be that much different TBH.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-21e-ok.html

My advice is to also try and get faster memory. Here is a 16GB (2x8GB) 3000MHz kit from Team Group for £120. (You will need to search around for Ryzen compatibility) and on your board's memory QVL list. Ryzen loves faster memory and you can get faster than 2400 for your money.

I assume that you are not planning on overclocking given your lack of an aftermarket CPU cooler?
 
You can get a lot of similar components for cheaper in other places. Here is a 6GB GTX 1060 for £248.99 @ OCUK. The factory overclock will be a little different, but it won't be that much different TBH.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-21e-ok.html

My advice is to also try and get faster memory. Here is a 16GB (2x8GB) 3000MHz kit from Team Group for £120. (You will need to search around for Ryzen compatibility) and on your board's memory QVL list. Ryzen loves faster memory and you can get faster than 2400 for your money.

I assume that you are not planning on overclocking given your lack of an aftermarket CPU cooler?
I am not really planning on OCing, unless there is sizeable improvement for ryzen when it gets oc'd.

I am planning mainly to buy from scan.co.uk, since I heard they have a good rep.


This is the alternate intel m-itx setup:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor (£199.00 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£99.96 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard (£175.38 @ More Computers)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£144.00 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£83.97 @ BT Shop)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card (£303.23 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Corsair - 250D Mini ITX Tower Case (£83.40 @ Alza)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£85.47 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£83.70 @ Aria PC)
Total: £1258.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-06 11:52 BST+0100

I am not sure which motherboard to go with for the intel setup, since that board is difficult to find. Comparing the Intel build to the AMD build, the performance would be similar, but the small form factor would be slightly more favourable.
 
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Well, it all depends on what you plan on using this new system for and how much you will benefit from a small form factor system.

IE, does your use case benefit from additional cores and how much a large PC could limit your workflow (take up too much space in student accommodation or for transport).

Is this just for gaming or will you be using this for Uni work? Autocad, Solidworks etc?
 
The rig is mainly for uni work (word processing, 3d images of the human body) and gaming. I want this thing to last through med school, so I was thinking the ryzen may be more future proof due to higher core count.
 
The rig is mainly for uni work (word processing, 3d images of the human body) and gaming. I want this thing to last through med school, so I was thinking the ryzen may be more future proof due to higher core count.

Yeah, Ryzen sounds like a good bet if you are looking at multi-threaded CPU workloads. If you were looking to go Intel my advice is to wait to see what Coffee Lake is like, as it is rumoured to be releasing next month.

What is your exact budget, I could go on PCpartpicker or something later and see what I can spec up for you?
 
Yeah, Ryzen sounds like a good bet if you are looking at multi-threaded CPU workloads. If you were looking to go Intel my advice is to wait to see what Coffee Lake is like, as it is rumoured to be releasing next month.

What is your exact budget, I could go on PCpartpicker or something later and see what I can spec up for you?

Around 1000-1100 pounds (including windows 10). I have read that coffee lake is going to launch soon, so it might be good to wait for that. The waiting game with tech is terrible
 
That is the problem with incoming launches. There is always something to wait for.

After Vega it is "Wait for Volta" or "Wait for Navi", it never ends sadly.

One other aspect to consider is longevity, as AMD has promised that future Zen CPUs will support AM4 whereas the Intel system is a dead end that will require a new motherboard and CPU.

Also, you should be able to get a cheaper Windows 10 key elsewhere. I remember Paul's hardware talking about it a while back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXTqz3Fd28M
 
Well, I'm technically disabled according to the state, but I don't need assistance. I'll have to think about that one.

Doesn't matter. I upgraded my sister's system using that and was just fine. No need to call or anything. Was exactly the same as the standard upgrade. Didn't mention it earlier because I thought they took it down
 
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