Peripherals

I have literally been searching for a peripherals section for days now. do I simply keep missing it, or does such a thing not exist?

In any case. A section dedicated to peripherals seem like the most natural thing in the world. After all, without a mouse and keyboard, even the most awesome rig would be little more than a very expensive doorstop.

So shouldn't we have a place to talk about mice, keyboards, mousepads, game controllers, Etc.?

We have tried dude, Guv laid the hammer down and said no.

Why?

I spend a lot more time with my mouse than pretty much any other thing I own. As such It is incredibly important that my mouse is comfortable and of a good quality.
This is true for most of us.
It is arguably a more critical part of any computer, than the graphics card.

I don't see how it is any less a viable topic of discussion than for example headsets.

Even something as simple as a mousepad can make a greater difference for your gaming experience than most people would ever imagine.

It has been discussed here
http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=45343
and another before

By reading that thread and the earlier thread it linked to, it seems very clear that everyone wants and need a peripherals section and that the only reason why there isn't one, is that a single person apparently dislikes peripherals. Or at least talking about them.

WTF???

Guv runs the show so he has the last say.

He said in one thread, a while back, that there is no demand for a peripherals section.

I'd certainly say that there is now, and maybe new members refrain from posting about peripherals because they see no section?

I think it would see more usage than the dedicated Sound Cards & Speakers section.

Would it be possible to trial it for a month? I really don't know what work is required. I know SuB has been helping out on the web side, maybe he could monitor things?

I recently bought a new keyboard and mouse and had to go to one of the other big forums to find detailed info about key switches and pros and cons of different laser sensors so I really think there is a demand.

There is no doubt that there is a demand. Just look at other forums where they do have such a section.

For a forum like this one, not having a peripherals section, is like a car dealership that tells you to go buy the steering wheel for your new car at a competing dealership.
It makes no sense and will ultimately push people over to the competition. At the very least, partially.

The silly part is that it would take a minute or two to set up and it has no possible downside.

So.. This thread has now been sitting at the very top of this forum section for over a week. That means it has even been visible from the main index for all that time.

So it is fair to assume that admins have seen it. And if they haven't, it is fair to assume that they don't give a flying rats arse about their job.

And still, no response. A suggestion has been made that apparently 100% of forum members are behind and the admins don't even have the common courtesy to respond?

Nice to know where we stand.

+1 for peripheral thread

There must be a reason why we don't have one already, i would just take the guvs word and move on.

EDIT: An idea to get the people in charge to see the demand would be to make a peripherals thread where you post your peripherals and if it got a huge response they would maybe reconsider.

+ 1, I'd love to preach about my SteelSeries Ikari (best mouse Evarrrrrrr) xPP

dalewakelin said:

There must be a reason why we don't have one already, i would just take the guvs word and move on.

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That is the kind of thinking that keep us from getting things done. As a general rule you should never just take anyone's word for anything. Especially not when you can clearly see that they are wrong.

After starting this thread I was linked to several other, older threads on the same topic. The general theme is the same in all of them. Everyone wants this and there is a clear need for it. But for reasons that the people in charge don't have the courtesy to share, it has never been done.

Where I come from, we call that pissing on the people that keep you in business.

Dire Squirrel said:

That is the kind of thinking that keep us from getting things done. As a general rule you should never just take anyone's word for anything. Especially not when you can clearly see that they are wrong.

After starting this thread I was linked to several other, older threads on the same topic. The general theme is the same in all of them. Everyone wants this and there is a clear need for it. But for reasons that the people in charge don't have the courtesy to share, it has never been done.

Where I come from, we call that pissing on the people that keep you in business.

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I'd wait for Tom's word before you go saying he's completely wrong, cause he could have a very good reason for not having a peripherals section.
Yeah I know we sound like we're putting this guy on a pedestal but he knows the background and whats best for his own website.

iBeInspire said:

I'd wait for Tom's word before you go saying he's completely wrong, cause he could have a very good reason for not having a peripherals section.
Yeah I know we sound like we're putting this guy on a pedestal but he knows the background and whats best for his own website.

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He has had plenty of time to respond. Not only to this thread, but to the ones before it. And yet that has not happened.

I'm not here to stroke anyone's ego and I will not simply assume that he has a good reason. He has a reason, obviously, but I highly doubt it is good.
There is never a good reason to ignore a obvious problem, that has a simple solution.

Having worked in marketing for several years, I can assure you that it is very rare for the owner of any business to know what is best for that business. That is why the smart ones hire qualified people to tell them.

Dire Squirrel said:

He has had plenty of time to respond. Not only to this thread, but to the ones before it. And yet that has not happened.

I'm not here to stroke anyone's ego and I will not simply assume that he has a good reason. He has a reason, obviously, but I highly doubt it is good.
There is never a good reason to ignore a obvious problem, that has a simple solution.

Having worked in marketing for several years, I can assure you that it is very rare for the owner of any business to know what is best for that business. That is why the smart ones hire qualified people to tell them.

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As much as I can see there being a demand somewhat for a peripherals section I don't personally think you're going about it the right way. Posting what appear to be angry and smug messages is far less effective at getting someone on board than simply taking the initiative as has already been said to start a "show off your peripherals" thread for example. I appreciate that you believe there is definitely a demand for a sub section but Tom may have his reasons for there not being one. Furthermore if you watch his videos and read his posts you would know that whilst he is very active on here, he has other commitments within the OC3D brand as it is his job and that might be why he hasn't replied.

If i were you I would kick start a thread and see how it goes as a way of developing real world feedback.

WillSK said:

If i were you I would kick start a thread and see how it goes as a way of developing real world feedback.

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If you think that is the way to go, then do it.
I for one think it would counter productive. Like putting a band aid on a gaping wound.

I believe in doing things right the first time. Not coming up with these half-assed tape and baling twine solutions.

As for the "not having time" excuse. I call BS on that. As you say, this is his JOB. If you own a site like this that is 100% dependent on the users, it is not to much to ask that you check the suggestions once per week. Especially when there is a dedicated section labelled "suggestions", that you yourself put in place.
And when there has only been ONE new thread in that section within the past week, all you would have to do to see it, is scroll down the index page.

When you factor in that the topic has been discussed in at least 2 other threads, and that in at least one of those cases, a mod or admin brought the issue to his attention personally, there is just no way to weasel out of it.

But still there has been no word in any of those threads. Nothing.
That is a shitty way to run a business that is 100% dependent on the users.

And please do not mistake any of this for anger. I have no reason to be angry. This site has zero impact on my life and nothing that doesn't impact my life if worth wasting anger on.
I simply speak my mind and call attention to the problems I see. Sometimes it is necessary to speak a bit louder.

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And please do not mistake any of this for anger. I have no reason to be angry. This site has zero impact on my life and nothing that doesn't impact my life if worth wasting anger on.
I simply speak my mind and call attention to the problems I see. Sometimes it is necessary to speak a bit louder.

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What i'm saying is you're clearly an intelligent guy, and therefore should realise that the manner in which you are going about this can be perceived by others as not ideal. Sure you may feel that you're just "speaking a bit louder" but take the time to re read your posts and whilst you make some valid points I and possibly some others feel you could have "spoken a little less loudly"

Just my 2 cents mate

The problem is that most people posting in this thread and the others want the section and give valid points why it would be usefull but the only answer from staff is no without any explanation.

A show off your peripherals thread wouldn't help as we don't need to see pics of mice and keyboards, that's a thread that needs to be with the show off your desks and office chairs

All we need is an answer with some arguments.

(also not angry lol)