yet another bulldozer question

[wotevajjjj]

Hey guys

My athlon quad is becomming to slow for my current rendering needs...

So now there are a few options. I already have the 990fxa-ud5 so going intel is not an option. My ram is 1600 mhz ripjaws x 2*4gb havent overclocked it yet..

Anyways, question is, do i go 960t and unlock, go 1090t or trow a faildozer in there ? Ive been looking at the benchmarks again and it really isnt to bad on most applications.. Ive got a darkrock pro so should get about 4.5 ghz out of it.. I dont see why i would go with the 8150 since i cant cool the extra bit of oc potential. What do you guys recommend ? also is diamond paste really that good ?

 

[ionicle]

I find my bulldozer to be easiely quicker than

My imac that runs a core i3 processor

If that helps?

 

[wotevajjjj]

ofcourse it is, question is if money wise its responsible

 

[ruthless_villain]

IC Diamond is supposed to be the best on the market

i wouldnt go the 960T because it isnt guaranteed to unlock is it?

and i would see if i can get a BD chip straight away as AMD are offering £20 cashback on the 8 core chips

 

[thestepster]

get a 1090T man second hand there cheap as hell i got mines for £70 and its pretty damn speedy last i seen the bulldozers would be hell of a lot more than double the price for a really minimal speed boost

plus bulldozer is a server chip amd should never of put them up for retail

 

[WiganflightsimSteve]

I am one of the FX 8150 Bulldozer owners, i got it a few weeks back with an MSi 990 FXA-GD80 board. It definitely has shown its potential on the benchmarks in a few areas, and i am sure a few bios updates/ patches down the road it will be fine. I have always gone for what is Now, rather than what was good last year!

I am experiencing a few issues though with drivers and software updates, i didn't do a full re-install when i fitted the new stuff and i am guessing there is conflict, thought i might have got away with it

Full re-install on the cards i reckon.

 

[thestepster]

I have always gone for what is Now, rather than what was good last year!

that line made me laff hard ha ha ha ha bulldozer wont work 'properly' till windows 8 so uve bought something that 'might' be good in a year or that lol

 

[WiganflightsimSteve]

that line made me laff hard ha ha ha ha bulldozer wont work 'properly' till windows 8 so uve bought something that 'might' be good in a year or that lol

The patch that is due out will be pretty much what will be included in Windows 8, i am of course going to invest in Windows 8 on its release. I have no interest in Sandy bridge or Ivy bridge, or how wonderful they are, the Bulldozer is future proofing for my system and i am hoping the only upgrades i will have to make are more memory and the latest GPU

 

[thestepster]

lol sandy destroys bulldozers, ivybridge is another step up from that and will be even more, for a £200 cpu is slow as hell compared to only the £150 2500k

and thats all u will be able to do with amd's high end chips cause this will be the last one from them for a very very very very long time if ever cause bulldozer was a huge fail

 

[WiganflightsimSteve]

lol sandy destroys bulldozers, ivybridge is another step up from that and will be even more, for a £200 cpu is slow as hell compared to only the £150 2500k

and thats all u will be able to do with amd's high end chips cause this will be the last one from them for a very very very very long time if ever cause bulldozer was a huge fail

lol, as i said, my face aint Bovverd!

The chip was bought purely for the simulator rig. X-plane 10 utilizes as many cores as a processor has! As long as it is good in that area it is doing what i need, i can max everything out and also have quite a number of other planes running independant of themselves. That was the whole idea behind buying the Bulldozer

 

[thestepster]

lol more cores doesnt mean more performance, 2500k is a quad core and faster, the icp of bulldozer is almost as slow as a dinosaur plus its not a 'proper' 8 core its 4 dual core clusters sharing cache and thats where things fail bad

 

[dugdiamond]

get a 1090T

 

[thestepster]

get a 1090T

totally agree with u there mate

i bought one for it for £70

then bought someones faildozer 990FX sabertooth off them for cheap amazing combination with an x6

 

[WiganflightsimSteve]

lol more cores doesnt mean more performance, 2500k is a quad core and faster, the icp of bulldozer is almost as slow as a dinosaur plus its not a 'proper' 8 core its 4 dual core clusters sharing cache and thats where things fail bad

Totally missed the point as i suspected you would!

We already know that the FX 8150 does pretty well running games, but X-plane 10 is a little different! It allocates cores to do individual tasks like for example; generating the world scenery, buildings/ trees/ roads/ cars/ clouds/ water. Each object is generated with its own inner program like a virtual reality world, planes are replicated under the same principle and really do have their own mind in the simulation. Basically, the more cores you have, the more objects you can generate on the screen at the same time.

Given the case above, one would understand the reason for opting for the Bulldozer! When the Bulldozer has been overclocked and pushed to its limits, thats when it has shown its true worth, X-plane does push it to 'infinity and beyond'

I have three gaming rigs here, the other two have Phenom II processors in them, and i have a laptop with an Intel i5 450m that i am using here right now. The simulator rig is used for nothing else other than the simulator, that is all i built it for. I am not interested in buying a processor that costs £££'s more with less cores(i7) and never backwards compatible or forwards compatible. You want to change something, you end up shelling out a fortune to replace everything!

Yes Intel produce some good chips, but so what! That doesn't make them suitable for every application, AMD have taken a brave step with the Bulldozer, they should be comended for introducing something new and inovative that can only get better over time, not bashed by Intel fanboys who just can't grasp the concept.

 

[thestepster]

innovative, u call releasing a server cpu innovative to a consumer market where in tasks that the consumer use its sooooo poor that a £150 cpu utterly destroys it soooo poor icp and shared cache? intel have been at that game for years mate from some of the 775's to the 1366's that were all basically were xeons under the skin same with there 2011's mate

and unlike AMD's faildozer intels xeons all perform for consumer applications

and i aint an intel fanboy i currently run a 1090T on a sabertooth 990FX that i bought off someone that realised that amd conned them into buying a board early for faildozer

 

[WiganflightsimSteve]

The moral of my story here is, look at what the Bulldozer is designed for, then look at what X-plane 10 needs in a chip! I am not using it for anything else. Would it have been worth spending £££'s more on a full Intel setup, no i think not.

 

[thestepster]

bulldozer was expensive, and mate u brought up it being innovative when i didnt i said it was shite u said it was innovative i said y its shite and y its not innovative in the slightest

 

[WiganflightsimSteve]

Which just reinforces your Intel Fanboy status, regardless of the fact that you now lowered your standards by owning an AMD chip.

It isn't as bad as you and the rest of the Intel brigade keep making it out to be! It is a new design, it is inovative, it does have its plus points. If it does what i expect of it then there really is no problem is there

 

[dugdiamond]

...but X-plane 10 is a little different! It allocates cores to do individual tasks like for example...

this is why i suggested a hexacore. hyperthreading will not be utilised in X-plane 10 (and other games), so only four cores would be used on a sandy. but all six cores, with a 1090T, will enhance performance

 

[WiganflightsimSteve]

@ dugdiamond. I hadn't actually looked into those later AMD chips, i was running X-plane 9 with a Phenom 955 black edition, and decided to upgrade once ordering version 10. On reading all the gossip i decided on the Bulldozer.