XSPC kits, my first go at watercooling...

[computer/noob]

ive been reading through a few threads and seen that people have recommended going for the RX series of kits rather than the RS... i know that the RS rads are like half the size as RX rads, but for a first go at watercooling is recommended to go for the cheaper kits incase something goes wrong...? or just go all out and start big?

as for wat i would be cooling im am not 100% sure what it will be, possibly 2 GTX560's and eventually a bulldozer CPU (not going to know the sorts of operating tempertaures for either of these for a while)

many thanks in advance for those who help me out

 

[Lorem-Ipsum]

You will need at least 2 240 rads to cool that IMO, which means a better pump than the ones that come in the kits too.

 

[AMDFTW]

AMD being as cool as AMD is and if the 560s are even close to how cool the 460's are then a decent 360 would cover it

 

[DrBoomstick]

I agree with AMDFTW if the temperatures are in your favour then a 360 should cover it, if they aren't then maybe a little bit more

 

[computer/noob]

i wasnt sure wat hardware i would get, maybe the 360 kit and then a 120 or a 240 on top for extra cooling...? would the bump ok for that as it is rated at 750L/h but i cant remember any other stats for it....

also would the RX be worth the extra cost than the RS series?

 

[ChrisGT]

i wasnt sure wat hardware i would get, maybe the 360 kit and then a 120 or a 240 on top for extra cooling...? would the bump ok for that as it is rated at 750L/h but i cant remember any other stats for it....

also would the RX be worth the extra cost than the RS series?

Throwing more rads into a single loop = pointless. Either do two seperate loops or do 1 loop with 1 rad that can handle the heat. This difference between and RX and an RS is HUGE!

What case are you running? The pump is a pretty good pump dude. The head is a little low but for 1 loop and just 2 cards and a cpu its good enough right on the edge dont go 3 lol. Its quiet which I like alot lol.

BTW no xspx kit is an all out kit lol no where near being all out.

 

[equk]

Throwing more rads into a single loop = pointless. Either do two seperate loops or do 1 loop with 1 rad that can handle the heat. This difference between and RX and an RS is HUGE!

Doesn't seem like there's much point in spending loads on a dual loop.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=254683

Conclusions:

Under extreme performance scenarios, and from a pure performance standpoint, dual loops versus single loop are neither better nor worse, under the strict condition that the load ratios are evenly balanced.

Under the most commonly encountered loads though, single loops do win.

Under both of the above use scenarios, single loops also win from a reliability standpoint because of pump redundancy.

I also agree with what AMDFTW said

AMD being as cool as AMD is and if the 560s are even close to how cool the 460's are then a decent 360 would cover it

Also the whole dual loop thing seems a bit silly, if u have 2 radiators in a single loop you have a higher cooling capability in the same loop. Seperate them and you have 2 loops with a lower capability.

I guess if the GPU's are stupidly hot it could be worth it, but it normally only makes a few degrees difference as u have more cooling capability in the single loop (with 2 rads).

Also if you get a single loop with 2 pumps you have redundancy.

surely if the loop goes:

res/pump > cpu > gpu > rad > rad >

you have cpu at a lowish temp then goes to a higher temp gpu but then before it gets to the cpu again it is cooled via the radiators.

It's not like cpu=35 + gpu=65 total=100

 

[ChrisGT]

Never said there was a point in running two loops for his setup but to throw more rads into 1 loop will gain you a 1* drop if your lucky with a substantial flow drop...

Also res>pump>rad>cpu>gpu

 

[equk]

Never said there was a point in running two loops for his setup but to throw more rads into 1 loop will gain you a 1* drop if your lucky with a substantial flow drop...

soz thought u said to use 2 seperate loops

Throwing more rads into a single loop = pointless. Either do two seperate loops or do 1 loop with 1 rad that can handle the heat.

 

[ChrisGT]

soz thought u said to use 2 seperate loops

Sure ya I said either do two separate loops if you are wanting to use two rads OR Run 1 loop with 1 rad that can handle the heat.

At no time did I recommend running two loops I should of said instead of being dumb and putting two rads in one loop they could be better used in two separate loops in where you would actually gain performance or just be smart and buy 1 rad for 1 loop that can handle the heat...

 

[tinytomlogan]

Edited your post Chris. Remember this is a friendly forum please

 

[computer/noob]

so getting the RX360 kit plus some GPU blocks should be able to handle the 560's and bulldozer, as long as they aren't too hot.... wait and find out i spose.

as for the case i was hoping to go for something like the TJ07 or TJ11

 

[ChrisGT]

Edited your post Chris. Remember this is a friendly forum please

I was being friendly lol I did a

after it I was being sarcastic haha

And ya an rx360 will be good good enough its 63mm thick lol

 

[computer/noob]

looking for fans to put on the rad, and in all fans slots in my case what would be best....as i know decent airflow is good for case fans but what fans will also be good for the rad as dont u need a higher static pressure or something like that...?

i found these three:

Coolermaster Sickleflow

Bitfenix Spectre

Yate Loon D12SL

just wondering what would be best?

 

[INMATE183]

I assume your wanting green LED fans? Dont forget about noise! what are the 480 rads like 2x 140 fans seems better to me?

 

[computer/noob]

i plan on doing a green/black theme build so Green LEDs are a must... i may be getting a 4x140 rad if i go with the TJ11, but i prefer performance to come first over noise, quiet is a bonus

its just a lot of people say to get Yate Loons for rads, but i just want to get diferent peoples opinions...

 

[ChrisGT]

i plan on doing a green/black theme build so Green LEDs are a must... i may be getting a 4x140 rad if i go with the TJ11, but i prefer performance to come first over noise, quiet is a bonus

its just a lot of people say to get Yate Loons for rads, but i just want to get diferent peoples opinions...

Yate Loons are really freakin loud man. Idk I always try to find a spot where the noise is bearable and the performance is there. I suggest getting a fan controller. Lets you have it nice a quiet when at idle and you can ramp it up when gaming.

... Those yate loon highspeeds are rediculously loud.

 

[INMATE183]

Yate Loons are really freakin loud man. Idk I always try to find a spot where the noise is bearable and the performance is there. I suggest getting a fan controller. Lets you have it nice a quiet when at idle and you can ramp it up when gaming.

... Those yate loon highspeeds are rediculously loud.

I have a sythe server master 5.25 and its awsome mate its made my life bliss, on auto it can even turn fans OFF! which is awsome on my set up, semi auto option VERY handy, set min fan speed and then set temp you want to maintain, it does the rest

 

[computer/noob]

i probably will get a fan controller, coz i like to watch films on my computer as well and having all my fans on almost 100% all the time is power consuming and loud when u are watching a film... :/

So would u say go with a lower speed Yate Loons...? or shall i get Scythe Gentle typhoons for one side of the rad and get led fans for the other (so i still get the glow in the case)

 

[ChrisGT]

i probably will get a fan controller, coz i like to watch films on my computer as well and having all my fans on almost 100% all the time is power consuming and loud when u are watching a film... :/

So would u say go with a lower speed Yate Loons...? or shall i get Scythe Gentle typhoons for one side of the rad and get led fans for the other (so i still get the glow in the case)

I personally think the sickest green / black fans are the GELID Solutions FN-FW12-15 120mm Gamer Fan WING 12 Green.

I also like the XIGMATEK XLF transparent black frame white led fans.

I like the black and white contrast. But since your going green the gelid's are nice.

Prices aren't bad and they are 20< DBA while pushing like 60cfm which is awesome in my book.