Windows Vista and Mach II Control Centre UPDATE!

[crystalfat]

Ok after upgrading i have no access to the CC, I keep getting the usb failed doofas. Have tried all i can think of except shutting down, unplugging USB, restarting and then replugging. Will let you know how it goes.

Because of the nature of vista and its media capabilities, and the nature of the prometia systems users (Gaming, video editing, high end capabilities), one would assume the two "generally" go together and most people would be upgrading. Therefore let's see if we can find a solution to this. Any help appreciated.

regards

Chris

 

[stocky]

Well, it doesn't seem that wise to jump on the band wagon so early. Testing has shown that most software is currently optimised for XP, and does not perform as well on Vista. This will change with new programming/ patches/ otimisations that will eventually appear. But until that happens this Vista disc will stay away from my PC

Sorry I can't provide any help with this, except to stay with XP until all the problems have been sorted

 

[crystalfat]

Ahh but..

It is my job to evaluate Vista within the workplace, so unfortunatley i don't really have a choice. I use the Wacom intuos3 and logitch Dinovo gubbins, as well as lots and lots of extras, and i have to say that vista is doing an ok job atm. Few minor issues here and there but hopefully will be resolved soon.

p.s My mach II worked fine with my previous build of XP pro.

 

[maverik-sg1]

Dual boot for the win?

Can't agree more with Stocky's comments though and I sympathise with the position you are in because MS can't release a proper OS on its first release.

Reference the CC - once a MACH is set up, no real changes are required - how important is it to ave access on Vista and why?

ECT will no doubt have to release a VISTAQ driver at some point, but in all honesty I can't see it being high on it's priority list until more people adopt it.

Have you tried to 64bit driver (assuming you are usuing vista 64)?

Mav

 

[crystalfat]

'ello again

It's not a major problem as the prommy still functions fine, would be nice to tie it up though and have the CC there, but no biggy.

I agree about microsoft, however, from RC2 to Vista Final there are some major tweaks upon the stability, and like i say, i have to evaluate these products. I would say after evaluating all since windows 3.1, although Vista is a pure bells and whistle resource hog, it is a damn sight more stable than 98 XP and 2000 when they were released.

64 bit at home, 32 bit at work.

Ho hum...

p.s Don't get me wrong, i'm not really that bothered, but would be nice

Cheers for the dialogue guys.

 

[maverik-sg1]

My biggest gripe with Vista is well documented on this forum but with your experience you may be able to shed some light on it.

32bit and 64bit OS's are still separate - 64bit CPU's have been mainstream for 3-4years now and still I find that you have to choose either.

Vista in my opinion should of been 32bit with 64bit extensions built in (like 3dNow! and DirectX) to allow a natural progression to full 64bit computing.

We are in an era where the hardware far exceeds the capabilities of the software available (multihreading still not mainstream for many applications and games) and still with Vista being either 32bit or 64bit we will continue to see a divide of what software to choose and what level of support is provided - that is to say 64bit computing for the masses is still an OS away from being truly realised.

Vista appears to me to be an OS built around DRM as a way of generating more revenue from developers - with added bells and whistles that the public is perceived to have wanted all along but can already get from additional software.

After all we already have XP 32 and 64.

Mav

 

[crystalfat]

64 vs 32

Hello, well basically the 64 bit may have been mainstream in certain areas but their arcitecture consisted of more transistors and more silicon processes, which means a couple of things really, more expense for a start (to expensive to catch the home user) and as a side effect to this the companies will not develop 64 bit software to be used on say servers for example.

So we have two competley different bits of architecture and two seperate instructions sets to an extent.

Now once some real saturation does begin to take place the vendors will devlop and nature will take it's course.

hope this helps

 

[mrh1]

Any news on a Vista upgrade or work around?? as it would be nice to give it a try out.

Regards,

Martin

 

[Master_G]

Can't agree more with Stocky's comments though and I sympathise with the position you are in because MS can't release a proper OS on its first release.

Tbh the problem i see with the drivers isnt so much MS's fault but other companies. Many have clearly tried to use Vista to force you to buy new hardware (Creative trying to only support X-fi cards, only to get flamed by everyone with an Audigy card, many printer makers arent going to make much of an effort with their older printers).

Others will make drivers, but only in the coming months, which is pretty poor on their part.

As you said:

in all honesty I can't see it being high on it's priority list until more people adopt it

I cant see MS being responsible for hardware vendors to not both supporting the newest Windows OS for a couple of months.

I honestly cant see why you wouldnt make the driver ASAP, given that you will have to put in the time at some point to make it, you might as well do it now rather than putting off till tomorrow what you can do today.

G

 

[Breathless]

I have 64 bit Vista Business and I am interested in obtaining the software that will make the Mach II function as well.

I know it may take some time. I really hope that they eventually get it working though.

Waiting ever so patiently! :$

 

[mrh1]

What about right clicking the control driver icon exe, going into properties, I think somewhere in there you have an option to select what windows operating system compatibility you would like to use with that device,, might be worth a try,, let us know!!

 

[advancedkill]

Are you running 64 or 32 bit? I found that 32 bit is far easier to use (more drivers), but it would have been better to make it only 64 bit, as that would force manufacturers to get the right drivers. However, there are lots of people with P4 cpus that want to upgrade (inc me), which are only 32 bit, hence MicroS realeased 32 bit.

 

[Dazboots]

Any news on a Vista upgrade or work around?? as it would be nice to give it a try out.

Regards,

Martin

try this see if it works.

drop all files to desktop. find exe file.

right click file properties. then compatability.

then tick run as administrator apply then try install again.

might be wrong but who knows.

 

[advancedkill]

You could try and run it in XP compatibility mode.

 

[tkd]

hey guys has anyone had any luck getting the control center working under vista yet?

 

[Duken30]

I just made a post about this the other day a couple bellow this one. How ever I am currently using windows XP x64 edition. The fact that there isnt a driver out for the usb plug isnt that big of a deal but I do indeed agree with you, and wish that it was possible to use the control center to make the fans run full and customize the lcd. However it just wont be possibly until some one makes a driver for it. As far as I know the software doesnt need editing I wonder if you can just add some x64 bit flags in the driver thats what some people were doing for audio drivers etc when I was beta testing xp 64 for my company. Ill try it out in the next couple days (or here in a min time depending) and post back if it works. Any ways dont feel bad there are plenty of us out there with the same situation of not being able to use the full features ^^. ~Duken30~

 

[Duken30]

I just made a post about this the other day a couple bellow this one. How ever I am currently using windows XP x64 edition. The fact that there isnt a driver out for the usb plug isnt that big of a deal but I do indeed agree with you, and wish that it was possible to use the control center to make the fans run full and customize the lcd. However it just wont be possibly until some one makes a driver for it. As far as I know the software doesnt need editing I wonder if you can just add some x64 bit flags in the driver thats what some people were doing for audio drivers etc when I was beta testing xp 64 for my company. Ill try it out in the next couple days (or here in a min time depending) and post back if it works. Any ways dont feel bad there are plenty of us out there with the same situation of not being able to use the full features ^^. ~Duken30~

 

[Duken30]

I tried using the flagged xp driver .ini switch for xp64 and it was a no go. The driver looks as if it is deffinately only a 32bit system cab file so I dunno. I emailed ECT about it and am awaiting a response on the availability to the source code for the driver and software. If they respond I will post back here and in my thread as well for those who are viewing.

 

[Duken30]

ok i got a reply

I have recieved a reply from ECT pertaining to the driver source code. If you want to read a more in depth word for word about it go to my thread a couple below this one ^^ :cheers: