Windows 8 is not "Desktop" OS
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SieB
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Strange, I have been using Windows 8 as a desktop OS since release. Pretty sure many other people have as well 
Peoples inability to adapt to something different amazes me. Apart from no start button and start screen Windows 8 is exactly same as Windows 7.
That video makes my head hurt, one persons rant about not being able to take the time to learn something new and adapt.
I went from Windows 7 to Windows 8 and it took me the matter of 30 mins to work out the differences.
The trouble with this kind of video is people will watch it not having ever used Windows 8, and because of this one person they have all this misinformation and start talking BS about it, here there and everywhere. It then spreads and before you know it you have hundreds of people who have watched this video all talking the same BS, spreading the same misinformation, leading to hundreds more all talking the same BS.
This has what has happened with Windows 8 since the beginning, a lot of people have been misinformed and are lead to believe all kinds of crap and lies. The amount of stupid comments I read daily about Windows 8 not being able to do this, or this and that doesn't work on Windows 8 and various other things that simply are not true is amazing.
Take it from someone that uses Windows 8 every day and has done since release. It is not a bad OS, it works just like Windows 7. It has differences, but those differences are not as bad as they are made out to be and all it takes is the time to adapt to doing something differently. Everything that works on Windows 7 and older will work on Windows 8, Windows 8, just like Windows 7, is backwards compatible.
Peoples inability to adapt to something different amazes me. Apart from no start button and start screen Windows 8 is exactly same as Windows 7.
That video makes my head hurt, one persons rant about not being able to take the time to learn something new and adapt.
I went from Windows 7 to Windows 8 and it took me the matter of 30 mins to work out the differences.
The trouble with this kind of video is people will watch it not having ever used Windows 8, and because of this one person they have all this misinformation and start talking BS about it, here there and everywhere. It then spreads and before you know it you have hundreds of people who have watched this video all talking the same BS, spreading the same misinformation, leading to hundreds more all talking the same BS.
This has what has happened with Windows 8 since the beginning, a lot of people have been misinformed and are lead to believe all kinds of crap and lies. The amount of stupid comments I read daily about Windows 8 not being able to do this, or this and that doesn't work on Windows 8 and various other things that simply are not true is amazing.
Take it from someone that uses Windows 8 every day and has done since release. It is not a bad OS, it works just like Windows 7. It has differences, but those differences are not as bad as they are made out to be and all it takes is the time to adapt to doing something differently. Everything that works on Windows 7 and older will work on Windows 8, Windows 8, just like Windows 7, is backwards compatible.
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MacLeod
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I don't like Win8 either. That doesn't mean I can't "adapt to something different". It just means I don't like it and there are a LOT of other people that don't as well. 8.1 will likely address the all the gripes I have with it so I'll give it a second look.
Also, it's not so much that 8 was so bad but rather 7 is so good and so there isn't much urge to switch over.
Also, it's not so much that 8 was so bad but rather 7 is so good and so there isn't much urge to switch over.
SieB
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I have no problem with people not liking it, fair enough if you don't. What I don't like is all the total BS that people say about it. There are many things in that guys vids that are just a load of BS.
But as I said, it works exactly like Windows 7, the only difference being no start menu and the no start screen. When people write a whole OS for two minor things, one which there is a work around for and the other you only have to look at once when you boot your PC is a bit petty in my opinion.
Windows 8.1 has fixed the boot to desktop issue but the Start button only takes you to the Start screen and is not the Start button of old.
But each to their own, I just don't like seeing people saying things about something that just isn't true.
MacLeod
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I agree with you on that. While I'm all for nerd rage (it got me a better ending to Mass Effect 
) I do get tired of the over the top whining like the world is ending because of Metro. So while I think Win8 isn't as good as Win7, Metro sucks and I want a Start button, I do agree that the nerd rage does go a little overboard.
) I do get tired of the over the top whining like the world is ending because of Metro. So while I think Win8 isn't as good as Win7, Metro sucks and I want a Start button, I do agree that the nerd rage does go a little overboard.
vorticalbox
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one thing i didn't like was that you had two type of apps desktop and windows 8, meaning it was jumping between full screen and the desktop.
i used windows 8 as it was (no bring back start menu) and it did like it but the jumping between (as above) really got to me and i got my start menu back.
i used windows 8 as it was (no bring back start menu) and it did like it but the jumping between (as above) really got to me and i got my start menu back.
I have Windows 7 and there is not one feature of Windows 8 I want or need. So the way I see it, I'm saving myself money by not buying something.
The desktop metro interface thing I don't want or need and that seems to be the main selling point of Windows 8. If anything the list of stuff that they have removed is longer than the list of things they've added. (DVD codecs, Windows Media Centre, Star Menu etc)
As I get older I just need a system that works well and is fast. I don't need Windows 8.
It's a shame really that Windows 8 has turned out the way it has because Windows 7 was such a great release it improved everything to a substantial degree over Vista. I don't get why Microsoft felt the need to mess with a winning formula.
The desktop metro interface thing I don't want or need and that seems to be the main selling point of Windows 8. If anything the list of stuff that they have removed is longer than the list of things they've added. (DVD codecs, Windows Media Centre, Star Menu etc)
As I get older I just need a system that works well and is fast. I don't need Windows 8.
It's a shame really that Windows 8 has turned out the way it has because Windows 7 was such a great release it improved everything to a substantial degree over Vista. I don't get why Microsoft felt the need to mess with a winning formula.
jamesriley94
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I actually like Windows 8.
The guy in that video however is an idiot. Doesn't really explain his points well at all...
Like around the 5 minute mark - 'looking up the solution to a problem and weather just pops up' .....?!
I'm pretty sure that isn't down to the OS randomly thinking you may want to look at weather now, and instead more likely that he pressed a button accidentally...
Windows 8 is absolutely fine for me. Everybody seems to complain about the metro/tiles feature or whatever you want to call it. You really don't have to use it though. If you create shortcuts on your desktop for most things which most people do anyway, then you can completely avoid it. Maybe use it once or twice to search for something, but Window key commands do most things for me.
I prefer this to Windows 7 actually. This has built in support for multi-monitors and the default driver support is amazing. It can pick up built in wifi, LAN and so much more without even needing to download the proper drivers.
You quickly get used to it - and the dude making the video is clearly just trying to get views by complaining about something because he thinks the viewers will want to hear someone say an OS is bad and mouth it off in a dramatic fashion, when in reality, there's very little substance behind what he's actually saying.
The guy in that video however is an idiot. Doesn't really explain his points well at all...
Like around the 5 minute mark - 'looking up the solution to a problem and weather just pops up' .....?!
I'm pretty sure that isn't down to the OS randomly thinking you may want to look at weather now, and instead more likely that he pressed a button accidentally...
Windows 8 is absolutely fine for me. Everybody seems to complain about the metro/tiles feature or whatever you want to call it. You really don't have to use it though. If you create shortcuts on your desktop for most things which most people do anyway, then you can completely avoid it. Maybe use it once or twice to search for something, but Window key commands do most things for me.
I prefer this to Windows 7 actually. This has built in support for multi-monitors and the default driver support is amazing. It can pick up built in wifi, LAN and so much more without even needing to download the proper drivers.
You quickly get used to it - and the dude making the video is clearly just trying to get views by complaining about something because he thinks the viewers will want to hear someone say an OS is bad and mouth it off in a dramatic fashion, when in reality, there's very little substance behind what he's actually saying.
vorticalbox
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windows 8 is faster than windows 7.
http://usabilitygeek.com/windows-8-vs-windows-7-speed-and-performance-testing/
MacLeod
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But by a margin thats so small, youd only notice the difference in benchmarks and never in real world use.
Excalabur50
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I have used Windows 8 since release and am now using 8.1 preview and I love it it's so much faster at booting than Windows 7 ever was I don't need drivers for my camera or S3 anymore it's as rock solid as 7 and most people are moaning about it cause of metro interface....crazy. Just take a teaspoon of cement and...... and get used to the change and then you will find out what a great OS it really is.
vorticalbox
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the boot time i noticed when i upgraded from 7 to 8 on my ssd.
Those gains are so insignificant. A few points in 3D Apps, a few seconds on excel. I mean come on we are talking less than a 1% difference here.
The scores that are most different are shutdown and startup. But the difference between 12 seconds vs 8 seconds? If I'm shutting the system down I'm clicking shutdown and walking away. I'm not waiting for it to shut down. And honestly I can wait a few seconds for a boot up, it's not like I don't have a super fast SSD already.
My system doesn't take 28 seconds to boot up either, more like 15 seconds.
Really there is just nothing in Windows 8 I need or want, so saving money.
TheSurroundGamer
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I built two new computers this year. My OS of choice? Windows 7.
Master&Puppet
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I have 3 desktops and 2 laptops in my room at the moment. 3 run win7, 2 run win8.
Metro and the app system is a waste of time on win8 because we all use the desktop environment in which win7 and 8 are virtually identical. Install start8 or a similar 3rd party menu and the single biggest issue is done with.
Having said that, if there was proper support for tiling program icons rather than getting rubbish looking shortcuts I'd actually prefer to use the start screen on win8 - it looks sexy. I have played with oblytile a lot but it takes up so much time...
There's no appreciable difference in performance in my experience. Frankly as far as most users will be concerned a few things have been renamed and the start menu has become a screen. Big deal...
Windows 8 is just great but I wouldn't bother upgrading from windows 7 because you don't get much for your money in my opinion. Buying new...either is fine but I'd go Win8.
Metro and the app system is a waste of time on win8 because we all use the desktop environment in which win7 and 8 are virtually identical. Install start8 or a similar 3rd party menu and the single biggest issue is done with.
Having said that, if there was proper support for tiling program icons rather than getting rubbish looking shortcuts I'd actually prefer to use the start screen on win8 - it looks sexy. I have played with oblytile a lot but it takes up so much time...
There's no appreciable difference in performance in my experience. Frankly as far as most users will be concerned a few things have been renamed and the start menu has become a screen. Big deal...
Windows 8 is just great but I wouldn't bother upgrading from windows 7 because you don't get much for your money in my opinion. Buying new...either is fine but I'd go Win8.
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