Windows 7

[°TheMadDutchDude°]

LOL thats a bit unlucky then, I have moved back on to Vista and I can't really notice a huge drop in performance, yeah I'm getting like 300 points less on 3DMark06 and that but that doesn't matter.. I know how well my PC can perform, don't need a benchmark program to determine that for me!

 

[Brooksie]

DX11 will work with DX10 cards so thats alright.. But i'm running on x64 now with 4GB of ram and it runs perfect.. Vista reccomended for ram is 2GB.. So Windows 7 should be 4GB and x64 only? If not it better not have a ram hungry aero.

 

[Rastalovich]

Dx10 works on Dx9 cards too

 

[Brooksie]

eh.. if DX9 cards worked with DX10? Why did we all have to buy new GPU's to get the crappy DX10. Shouldn't you mean DX9 worked with DX10 cards?

 

[Rastalovich]

Installed a Vista on a pc with 7600GT and played games on it

 

[Brooksie]

lol, did you play any DX10 games?

 

[Rastalovich]

Hmm, that`s a tricky question.

 

[Zoot]

Regarding the whole Vista V XP argument. I don't really get how someone could pair the two side by side and say XP is dramatically better.

Vista is better than XP in some respects, (prefetch, memory management). The gripe I have for it and it's the reason XP is still my choice of Windows is the colossal resource hogging...

Vista tbh for me has worked okay since Service Pack 1, and should for any hardware enthusiast.

What does drive me crazy however is to see laptops and desktops sold that are sold with Vista that are actually incapable of running it properly.

Any people I've set up with mediocre laptops in the last few months have always come with Vista and in each case I've removed it and installed XP (Linux in some cases) for them.

I most certainly don't think Vista deserved all of the negative press it got. IMO it was just one huge disappointment given all the failed promises.

I truly hope Windows 7 won't follow suit in that respect.

problem is its compatible next to nothing, stone useless no games hardly any app's lack of driver support never gonna catch up with windows, not in my lifetime atleast LOL

That's the thing it is compatible with very few windows applications. Many do indeed work perfectly under Wine (MS office is one example) as do many games. However the thing is that many great open source alternatives exist.

Take Gimp for example, it's the default image editor in Ubuntu. It's infinitely better than MSpaint and isn't too far away from the functionality of Adobe Photoshop.

Photoshop is better mind you, but the fact that it's free and comes with the OS is something Windows can't boast.

I've even found myself an open source alternative to Guitar Pro - TuxGuitar.

Regarding drivers the linux distros today are shipped with a huge amount of drivers included. On both my laptop and 2 desktops everything was recognised straight away, even the sound on my laptop which I had to fight with tooth and nail to get working under XP. The only other trouble I have is that I don't have sound on the desktop in my sig, but that's Creative's fault.

The only proprietary driver one typically has to set up in Linux is the video driver.

It certainly isn't a case of just install and everything is recognised except the video with Windows.

Here's an article from last year about why Linux (in general) is far superior to Windows, read that first.

http://cityblogger.com/archives/2007/01/24/101-reasons-why-linux-is-better-than-windows

And yes I am a Linux fanboy!! :worship:

I would gladly dump Microsoft and the *wonderful privilege* that is Windows tomorrow.

LOL thats a bit unlucky then, I have moved back on to Vista and I can't really notice a huge drop in performance, yeah I'm getting like 300 points less on 3DMark06 and that but that doesn't matter.. I know how well my PC can perform, don't need a benchmark program to determine that for me!

QFT!!

 

[mrapoc]

I loved ubuntu - so customisable and ran nice and fast

But yeh, i had to go back to Windows. Sure eveything was detected, but it was lacking one main thing...support (drivers, programs etc.) but i hope all this will change.

I also hope they improve the usability. There were certain important thing you could only do using the console. I did manage it but the average joe would not.

So make ubuntu as useable as windows, keep open source, get more support (games etc.) and keep it fast

Anyway, Vista runs much better than XP for me (x64 vista vs X64 XP - PITA OS)

 

[nathan]

What does drive me crazy however is to see laptops and desktops sold that are sold with Vista that are actually incapable of running it properly.

Any people I've set up with mediocre laptops in the last few months have always come with Vista and in each case I've removed it and installed XP (Linux in some cases) for them.

i completely agree with you here, i've been in the same boat, bought a cheap toshiba laptop for a mate, came pre-installed with vista. It only had 512mb of ram, i swear the minimum is 1gb. As i'm sure you can tell, it ran like a bag of crap. just another marketing tool for the manufacturers i suppose.

 

[Zoot]

512MB! Wow, to sell a laptop like that with Vista is a joke.

 

[Rastalovich]

The only slight upside is I bought 2x1g of ram for a latop for £23 from Scan.

Down side is alot of the cheaper laptops are limited to 2g max. It's ok tho if u dont plan to play.... Crysis on it or summit.

 

[ionicle]

atm, on my machines, i have vista on five and xp on one, and they are all stable, so why should i upgrade to anything

i might stick linux on one of them for a blast from the past lol, when i dabbled in that sorta stuff, but hey, if things are stable, why change?

 

[Rastalovich]

atm, on my machines, i have vista on five and xp on one, and they are all stable, so why should i upgrade to anything

There will be a reason for most people. Theres no way in this world theyre going to bring out windows7 without u having to have it to run something.

Something akin to Dx11 for windows7 only.

In other news, I read somewhere rumors of XP getting another 6 month stay of execution.

 

[ionicle]

i'm slightly worried my current machines wont hack it for windows 7

i mean, they run vista fine, but...

 

[Hassan]

u no what?

Microsoft knows Vista was a miserable failure, matter of fact, I've seen somewhere (maybe here) that Microsoft took in bunch of Apple Macs.

What does that say?

 

[Toxcity]

Ubuntu is my least fave OS I have played with recently.. it just feels worst that Windows when it comes to the user friendliness. It seems to do everything for you... for the average joe this is good but for me it is a no no.

It is my computer I want full control so the sutmatic things are just a pita for me. And Ubuntu is SLOOOOW. This is why I am on the look out for something a little more speedy. Ubuntu is the prime example of linux copying windows.

Bring on Windows 7 as long as the kernel is hugely beter than Vistas.

 

[Zoot]

Just so you know the amount of processors Ubuntu (or Linux in general) can be scaled to is 1024, Windows doesn't really go beyond 1.

That's the reason that Linux will be the only OS for a long time to do Bloomfield justice when it comes out.

And you are in complete control of everything, applications don't randomly start updating in the background or anything like that.

Just to give you some example of the level of control one has, I'm typing this on a completely customized kernel.

Bring on Windows 7 as long as the kernel is hugely beter than Vistas.

Ahh... the kernel is going to be largely the same as, if not identical to Vista.

 

[nathan]

applications don't randomly start updating in the background or anything like that.

Would this not be something to do with the applications and not the OS. I'm sure you could configure a simple firewall within windows not to allow this.

 

[Zoot]

Yeah I suppose that's not the best example...

You could use Comodo Defense+ to block the app excuting the update process in the first place. It's firewall is also pretty comprehensive.

Anyway you're in complete control over absolutely everything from the kernel to the GUI.