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[BOOM-HE4DSHOT]

HI GUYZ,have decided to go w/c as i wasnt to impressed with the h50/70series.i was wondering if some one could guide me into the right direction ie what components ill need/ the best!im wanting to w/c both cpu and graphics card i currently have a amd 970be and gtx 285 oc 2gb but will be purchasing an evga 580 ftw hydro copper2 any opinions welcome many thx.

 

[DrBoomstick]

Well this depends on a few things, will you be OC'ing your 970? What case have you got, would you be willing to change case?

Budget?

 

[BOOM-HE4DSHOT]

Well this depends on a few things, will you be OC'ing your 970? What case have you got, would you be willing to change case?

Budget?

HI THX FOR THE REPLY.YES WILL BE O/C MY 970 TO 4.0GHZ MY CASE IS A ANTEC 1200 NO BUDGET.HOPEFULLY THIS CASE IS BIG ENOUGH? CHEERS DR

 

[DrBoomstick]

HI THX FOR THE REPLY.YES WILL BE O/C MY 970 TO 4.0GHZ MY CASE IS A ANTEC 1200 NO BUDGET.HOPEFULLY THIS CASE IS BIG ENOUGH? CHEERS DR

Well I far from an expert, but if you are going to be running a GTX 580 and an overclocked 970 you are going to need a fair amount of radiator to handle all that. Something like a 360mm radiator of good thickness or a 360 and a 240 on the back of the case would be nice.

Pretty much, you will need as many radiators as you can fit inside (or outside) of your case. If you can try to buy decently thick ones e.g 60mm

antec 1200 is a pretty big case, and with the amount of hardware done buy a crappy 250lph pump, this is not the place to save money.

fan setup's on the radiators is a big issue, the more fans the better really.

For a good overview on how to set up water cooling, Tom has already done a short set of videos. They are great and will really get you to grips with everything you need to know. When you are watching the video, just keep in mind you are going to need far more kit than he is using because you are cooling far more components, but the theory is the same.

Video's can be found HERE! Watercooling Part 1 Watercooling Part 2

I have no experience with the antec 1200 so am not quite sure how much you can fit inside But I'm sure some of the other fellows on this fine forum have 1200's

Also, a good idea to get inspiration and to find out what is possible with your case if to look around on the forums, maybe in the Rig Gallery, or in the project log. There is a gold mine of knowledge in there. And if you can't find any watercooled Antec 1200's then just good "Antec 1200 Watercooled" its bound to throw something up.

Good luck.

 

[BOOM-HE4DSHOT]

Well I far from an expert, but if you are going to be running a GTX 580 and an overclocked 970 you are going to need a fair amount of radiator to handle all that. Something like a 360mm radiator of good thickness or a 360 and a 240 on the back of the case would be nice.

Pretty much, you will need as many radiators as you can fit inside (or outside) of your case. If you can try to buy decently thick ones e.g 60mm

antec 1200 is a pretty big case, and with the amount of hardware done buy a crappy 250lph pump, this is not the place to save money.

fan setup's on the radiators is a big issue, the more fans the better really.

For a good overview on how to set up water cooling, Tom has already done a short set of videos. They are great and will really get you to grips with everything you need to know. When you are watching the video, just keep in mind you are going to need far more kit than he is using because you are cooling far more components, but the theory is the same.

Video's can be found HERE! Watercooling Part 1 Watercooling Part 2 many thx for your time and effort bro

I have no experience with the antec 1200 so am not quite sure how much you can fit inside But I'm sure some of the other fellows on this fine forum have 1200's

Also, a good idea to get inspiration and to find out what is possible with your case if to look around on the forums, maybe in the Rig Gallery, or in the project log. There is a gold mine of knowledge in there. And if you can't find any watercooled Antec 1200's then just good "Antec 1200 Watercooled" its bound to throw something up.

Good luck.

thx for your time and effort bro

 

[ChrisGT]

Pretty much, you will need as many radiators as you can fit inside (or outside) of your case.

antec 1200 is a pretty big case, and with the amount of hardware done buy a crappy 250lph pump, this is not the place to save money.

fan setup's on the radiators is a big issue, the more fans the better really.

No.

As many rads as possible = fail.

The antec 1200 is limited, but you can mount a thick 240mm rad up front in the middle 6 bays. You can mount a 360 rad is you move the Hard drives to the top 5.25 bays.

You could also mount a 240 rad on the back of the case. But I am a fan of mounting them within the case.

How is the fan setup a big issue? You either run a Push, Pull, or Push & Pull configuration. You can run a Push & Pull if you mount it in the front and use the built in fans to push. You then mount pull fans onto the actual radiator.

TJHarlow did a thin 240 in the front of his 1200. You can fit a thick one easily.

Now res/pump you can get like an XSPC bay pump/res combo 750 lph. Pretty good there for the loop you want to run. You could also get a Liang D5 pump and a seperate res. You can get a bay res or an internal mount res.

Now to be honest the antec 1200 is a air cooled case bro. For obvious reasons. If you want to swap to another case go for it. If you want to keep it you will have to do some modding. Nothing crazy just some fitment stuff.

 

[DrBoomstick]

As many rads as possible = fail.

The antec 1200 is limited, but you can mount a thick 240mm rad up front in the middle 6 bays. You can mount a 360 rad is you move the Hard drives to the top 5.25 bays.

You could also mount a 240 rad on the back of the case. But I am a fan of mounting them within the case.

How is the fan setup a big issue? You either run a Push, Pull, or Push & Pull configuration. You can run a Push & Pull if you mount it in the front and use the built in fans to push. You then mount pull fans onto the actual radiator.

Dude, Obviously when I said, "as many rads a possible" I was talking about the amount you could sensibly fit in or out the case, I was not implying that you should have a pile on the floor. Sure most people hate rad's outside, I am one of those people. But I'm just giving the guy options.

And fans can make a pretty big difference from what I've seen when talking about parts that will be kicking out as much heat as these will. However, I was saying that you need to be careful because there probably wont be room to do Push-Pull with a 60mm rad.

 

[ChrisGT]

Dude, Obviously when I said, "as many rads a possible" I was talking about the amount you could sensibly fit in or out the case, I was not implying that you should have a pile on the floor. Sure most people hate rad's outside, I am one of those people. But I'm just giving the guy options.

And fans can make a pretty big difference from what I've seen when talking about parts that will be kicking out as much heat as these will. However, I was saying that you need to be careful because there probably wont be room to do Push-Pull with a 60mm rad.

You mis understood me bro. I was saying running more than 1 rad in a loop is sensless. Get 1 rad that can handle the heat. You see minimal drops running multiple rads in 1 loop and you lose a good amount of pressure. If you are running multiple hot cards and cooling the cpu then running two seperate loops is better. He's only running 1.

If he mounts it outside sure he can run a "half" push pull since the top fan spot will be where the rad box goes. If he mounts inside trust me he can run push pull with the built in fans.

 

[BOOM-HE4DSHOT]

You mis understood me bro. I was saying running more than 1 rad in a loop is sensless. Get 1 rad that can handle the heat. You see minimal drops running multiple rads in 1 loop and you lose a good amount of pressure. If you are running multiple hot cards and cooling the cpu then running two seperate loops is better. He's only running 1.

If he mounts it outside sure he can run a "half" push pull since the top fan spot will be where the rad box goes. If he mounts inside trust me he can run push pull with the built in fans.

cheers for the heads up some modding it is, would the can any one suggest the equiptment needed for cpu and gpu cooling pls then i will go buy them asap,thx too u both for the replys

 

[BOOM-HE4DSHOT]

cheers for the heads up some modding it is, would the can any one suggest the equiptment needed for cpu and gpu cooling pls then i will go buy them asap,thx too u both for the replys

can some one pls advise me on equiptment needed for cpu and graphics cooling.many thx.

 

[ChrisGT]

can some one pls advise me on equiptment needed for cpu and graphics cooling.many thx.

As in which blocks to get?

 

[BOOM-HE4DSHOT]

As in which blocks to get?

hi chris,as in all equiptment needed to cool my cpu and evga 580 h/c.heres wat i think i need but correct me if im wrong.(rx360 rad/xspc rasa water block/XSPC X2O 750 Dual 5.25” Bay Reservoir Pump.and tubing/coolant.is this correct? if any of the above are crap pls inform me of a better product the cooler the better

 

[ChrisGT]

hi chris,as in all equiptment needed to cool my cpu and evga 580 h/c.heres wat i think i need but correct me if im wrong.(rx360 rad/xspc rasa water block/XSPC X2O 750 Dual 5.25” Bay Reservoir Pump.and tubing/coolant.is this correct? if any of the above are crap pls inform me of a better product the cooler the better

Well you still need a waterblock for the GPU. Is it a reference card?

None of the parts above are crap, there are more higher end parts that cost more money.

 

[flawless]

Id recommend getting some teflon tape! Its a pain in the ass if you have to drain the system because of some producing buggs!

 

[BOOM-HE4DSHOT]

Well you still need a waterblock for the GPU. Is it a reference card?

None of the parts above are crap, there are more higher end parts that cost more money.

hi chris,the card comes with the swifttech water block fitted (hydro copper 2 ftw)so the parts i listed bwould accomadate cpu/grfx cooling

 

[ChrisGT]

hi chris,the card comes with the swifttech water block fitted (hydro copper 2 ftw)so the parts i listed bwould accomadate cpu/grfx cooling

Hey bro I completly forgot. I check in during lunch break and forgot what it was.

Nice card btw.

Do you know what size fittings you want to run? What kind of tubing? What kind of fans for the rad?

 

[BOOM-HE4DSHOT]

Hey bro I completly forgot. I check in during lunch break and forgot what it was.

Nice card btw.

Do you know what size fittings you want to run? What kind of tubing? What kind of fans for the rad?

hey,no prob bro, to be honest,i dont know much about w/c/ the best size tubing/fittings or the best fans for rad do u know which is best? was speaking to a m8 who done his own cpu w/c

w/cooling and he said stay away from w/c as the liquid gets hot then temps stay high.is he a noob who didnt assemble it right loool?to be honest ill prob get some one to assemble as i dont want leaks n stuff haha

 

[ChrisGT]

hey,no prob bro, to be honest,i dont know much about w/c/ the best size tubing/fittings or the best fans for rad do u know which is best? was speaking to a m8 who done his own cpu w/c

w/cooling and he said stay away from w/c as the liquid gets hot then temps stay high.is he a noob who didnt assemble it right loool?to be honest ill prob get some one to assemble as i dont want leaks n stuff haha

If that is what he said then yess he is a n00b because the whole point is to get the water hot so that the radiator can exchange the heat from the coolant and then send cooler fluid into the cpu. i.e the coolant is a carrier for the heat away from the componets being cooled.

If you have air bubbles in your lines then yes the cooling effecieny goes down. When you first start the loop up go through all the fittings, tubes, and clamps to make sure there are 0 leaks. Its a recommened 24hr leak test period, but watch it like a hawk for the first 10min or so then keep an eye on it for the next 2hrs so don't run away from it and do other stuff. After that let it run for 24 hrs to help move the bubbles out of the lines. Move the case around to help get rid of trapped bubbles.

There are a few steps to follow when first filling the loop as well. I could explain it all or just tell you to watch Tom's intro to watercooling vids.

On the tube and fittings sizes, I run 1/2 fittings and 5/16's tubing. I could also explain the difference between I/D and O/D but again ill point you to watch Tom's vid.

It comes down to preference and how you want to route your loop. Thinner tubbing = more flexability but I personnally like the thicker tubing.

 

[BOOM-HE4DSHOT]

If that is what he said then yess he is a n00b because the whole point is to get the water hot so that the radiator can exchange the heat from the coolant and then send cooler fluid into the cpu. i.e the coolant is a carrier for the heat away from the componets being cooled.

If you have air bubbles in your lines then yes the cooling effecieny goes down. When you first start the loop up go through all the fittings, tubes, and clamps to make sure there are 0 leaks. Its a recommened 24hr leak test period, but watch it like a hawk for the first 10min or so then keep an eye on it for the next 2hrs so don't run away from it and do other stuff. After that let it run for 24 hrs to help move the bubbles out of the lines. Move the case around to help get rid of trapped bubbles.

There are a few steps to follow when first filling the loop as well. I could explain it all or just tell you to watch Tom's intro to watercooling vids.

On the tube and fittings sizes, I run 1/2 fittings and 5/16's tubing. I could also explain the difference between I/D and O/D but again ill point you to watch Tom's vid.

It comes down to preference and how you want to route your loop. Thinner tubbing = more flexability but I personnally like the thicker tubing.

thx chris,once again many thanks for your time and cheers for the heads up about watching the set up when finished for leaks! will post some pics when my rig is done

 

[BOOM-HE4DSHOT]

thx chris,once again many thanks for your time and cheers for the heads up about watching the set up when finished for leaks! will post some pics when my rig is done

hi back again ok i got a few things delivered today, xspc d5-res,mcp-d5-655 pump,rs240 rad,rasa cpu block!my question is will this fit in my antec 1200? i know the rad does in the front behind main 3 fans just wasnt sure bout res? cheers peepz