What Mobile phone to go for...

I was just about to say that! I've had an HTC 8x for 3 weeks now and I'm really happy with it. I was able to buy it for a mere €250,- (remember this is a 'high-end' smartphone.

They are very cheap now cause everyone buys Androids. If you want a shit ton of apps, WP8 may not be for you though. There's also nothing to really customize about your phone.

As for the apps: For me personally they have all I need. I use my phone for staying in touch with people and quickly looking up info. Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Whatsapp and the like are available and they work really well actually. I even found apps to help you tune a guitar and a remote app for Samsung TVs.

You'll have to get a bit used to the fact that there is no notification bar, but the live tiles work pretty well.
 
Feronix said:
I was just about to say that! I've had an HTC 8x for 3 weeks now and I'm really happy with it. I was able to buy it for a mere €250,- (remember this is a 'high-end' smartphone.

They are very cheap now cause everyone buys Androids. If you want a shit ton of apps, WP8 may not be for you though. There's also nothing to really customize about your phone.

As for the apps: For me personally they have all I need. I use my phone for staying in touch with people and quickly looking up info. Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Whatsapp and the like are available and they work really well actually. I even found apps to help you tune a guitar and a remote app for Samsung TVs.

You'll have to get a bit used to the fact that there is no notification bar, but the live tiles work pretty well.
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Great minds think a like? Lol

As I've said massive android fan but the windows phone tiles are really quite nice and the the gui is very smooth.

I would get one but I love modding my phone and I think I would regret it pretty quickly.

My one x is running custom firmware with oc GPU and EMC, thinking about doing the CPU but this phone already gets pretty hot lol.
 
Great minds do think alike, i have been looking at windows phones the GUI is great and then hardware is as equally good, but i don't think it's for me i do like my apps and as you said Feronix it doesn't seem that windows app development has really taken of yet. I think i need to go in to a shop and try it out before completely ruling it out though.

One of the main things i want to do once i have a new phone is start developing my own apps and obviously the two biggest platforms for that are IOS and Android , so taking that in to consideration i think an android phone or the Iphone 4 would do me very well. My main goal is to have apps across multiple platforms/OS's.
:)
 
I have read that you can now unlock the bootloader on WP8 devices (but only once). You can check if the apps you want are available:
http://www.windowsphone.com/store

As you want a lot of apps though, Android is probably best for you. The iPhone 4 is honestly already dated and the new 5s will probably be announced in September.

A lot of people already use Android and starting with that will also offer more of a challenge. Where all of the iPhones are pretty much the same, Android devices come in a lot of different sizes and spec sheets. That way your app already has to work on multiple devices.
 
Fair point,
How about the Nexus 4 does anyone have one? i should imagine there is going to be tons of ROM's for it seeing as it is a Google phone and is possibly with in my budget (need to look into it a bit more)
 
I have a nexus 4, had it rooted and stuff until 4.3 came out.

Lovely phone, nice and fast etc.

Personally I'd be looking at the HTC One, it's a beauty. (and will probably be my next phone if I can swing it right on the upgrade)

Don't forget if you want to develop iOS apps, you need a Mac, and you'll need a new one with mountain lion etc and the new xcode for iOS 7 once it's out and about.

I've just started learning to develop mobile apps for both platforms, and my initial assessment is:

- Objective-C (iOS) is a bit of a daunting language to look at and learn, very strongly typed as well, but the IDE (xcode) is absolutely amazing.

- Java (Android) is, well... it's java. fairly simple syntax, but the IDE is built on eclipse and I find it quite sluggish, but they've got ALOT of auto-fill stuff and whatnot. But, it's still no where near as good as Xcode.

I'd take a look at something like Treehouse and see what you think to both methods of development, their crystal ball tutorial is basically the same app for both OS's and will show you the inherent differences between the two. (pro's con's etc).

I'm (personally) preferring iOS at the moment, even though I've moved to Android as my mobile device. Until I have to build the Android version of the App i'm currently working on at least... we'll see if my preference swings that way afterwards.
 
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Also, from my initial experience with iOS 7... I'd stick to an android device *cringe*

can't say anymore than that though.
 
As I said before, the Nexus 4 would be great for you. It's a high end Android phone, fairly cheap, has vanilla Android and all that will help with app development.

Other than that I can only agree with SuB, though the HTC One is a lot more expensive...
 
A word of caution if you want a WP8 phone, there is no sms or call blocker apps available. I understand the Samsung WP8 phone has some form of blocker built in but my Nokia Lumia didn't and it has caused me to switch back to an Android phone.
 
iOS 7 will come with a built in feature to block numbers (but that doesn't make up for the shocking experience that is the GUI)
 
SuB said:
iOS 7 will come with a built in feature to block numbers (but that doesn't make up for the shocking experience that is the GUI)
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Android has had that for a while. The GUI used was said to be better than android it really that bad now?
 
I'm afraid the iPhone 4 has to be eliminated on its inability to actually make phone calls, the 4S is slightly better but still not up to scratch. I would run away from anything with samsung written on it but that's just me, the S2 was so grim i'm put off for life and they haven't exactly done anything to change my mind since then. The Nexus 4 is awesome, my Dad and two of my friends have one, the camera is legendary and have to say all rounds its good but seems to have its shortcomings in the battery department. I've had a One X and now a One X+ and loved them both, fantastic all round and build quality. I was very tempted by the One but the camera put me off my initial excitement so i'm going to stick by my X+ until later in the year.

JR
 
JR23 said:
I'm afraid the iPhone 4 has to be eliminated on its inability to actually make phone calls, the 4S is slightly better but still not up to scratch. I would run away from anything with samsung written on it but that's just me, the S2 was so grim i'm put off for life and they haven't exactly done anything to change my mind since then. The Nexus 4 is awesome, my Dad and two of my friends have one, the camera is legendary and have to say all rounds its good but seems to have its shortcomings in the battery department. I've had a One X and now a One X+ and loved them both, fantastic all round and build quality. I was very tempted by the One but the camera put me off my initial excitement so i'm going to stick by my X+ until later in the year.

JR
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Htc one has a nice camera don't get fooled by the "more is better" in terms on megapixels.

I have to agree with the Samsung, when you use the same plastic in a £500 phone that you use on a £50, that premium feel doesn't exist.
 
vorticalbox said:
Android has had that for a while. The GUI used was said to be better than android it really that bad now?
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Oh I know, much of the 'new concepts' are copied from Android stuff if you ask me, the interface itself feels lost. I can see the direction they've tried to take it in, and.. it's just not right in my opinion. All this glass/blur stuff is 'shiny' and stuff but it's poorly implemented. Lots of gimicky stuff like alerts now 'float' around and move based on the accelerometer and stuff.

From what I've been reading, it sounds like they've added all these uber glass effects using a completely closed off API so dev's can't use it.. Apples apps run at 60fps (like when you drag notifications/menu over the camera app) but the best devs are getting is around 15fps and they have to 'fake' it.

Very poor so far if you ask me... not impressed all that much, it's kind of cleaner. It certainly doesn't feel like a ground-up rebuild at all, it's just a skin, considering the fact that you can compile for 6.1 and it just runs with the new skin on 7.0. Don't get me wrong i'm no expert but it doesn't come across as revolutionary as they make out.
 
I went with the S3 Mini in the end great phone £17 a month for 300 minutes, unlimited texts and 750mb of internet, very happy with my choice :)
i asked if they had the Nexus 4 and unfortunately they didn't but hey not the end of the world.
 
SuB said:
Oh I know, much of the 'new concepts' are copied from Android stuff if you ask me, the interface itself feels lost. I can see the direction they've tried to take it in, and.. it's just not right in my opinion. All this glass/blur stuff is 'shiny' and stuff but it's poorly implemented. Lots of gimicky stuff like alerts now 'float' around and move based on the accelerometer and stuff.

From what I've been reading, it sounds like they've added all these uber glass effects using a completely closed off API so dev's can't use it.. Apples apps run at 60fps (like when you drag notifications/menu over the camera app) but the best devs are getting is around 15fps and they have to 'fake' it.

Very poor so far if you ask me... not impressed all that much, it's kind of cleaner. It certainly doesn't feel like a ground-up rebuild at all, it's just a skin, considering the fact that you can compile for 6.1 and it just runs with the new skin on 7.0. Don't get me wrong i'm no expert but it doesn't come across as revolutionary as they make out.
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Apple has been copying android a lot, sounds like something apple would do they have never been good to developers.

@op glad you went for an android, welcome to the dark side.
 
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