What is up with S939 Boards!

[|3ourne]

can you possibly tell me the week of your TCCD chips ?

or the date of purchase and the place of purchase. If it is anywhere within year 4 then its older tccd. The newer ones have numbers 504 or something like that i think

my Gskills take 2.8V max on my DFI and my brand new set of PDP TCCD takes 2.9V min to be stable at stock timings and speeds.

 

[FarFarAway]

can you possibly tell me the week of your TCCD chips ?

or the date of purchase and the place of purchase. If it is anywhere within year 4 then its older tccd. The newer ones have numbers 504 or something like that i think

my Gskills take 2.8V max on my DFI and my brand new set of PDP TCCD takes 2.9V min to be stable at stock timings and speeds.

That's high man - that's a good thing? :S

 

[JN]

Looks like it might be the MSI board that gets the vote. But i can honestly say that i'm not pleased with the choice, maybe i'll force this guy to get an intel instead

 

[FarFarAway]

Looks like it might be the MSI board that gets the vote. But i can honestly say that i'm not pleased with the choice, maybe i'll force this guy to get an intel instead

YUK....not MSI!

 

[enVias]

Looks like it might be the MSI board that gets the vote. But i can honestly say that i'm not pleased with the choice, maybe i'll force this guy to get an intel instead

Intel Intel Intel!!!

 

[JN]

YUK....not MSI!

But the rest have got serious issues!

MSI Issues:

SATA ports 1 and 2 are not locked, use slots 3 and 4

cpu temperature reading not working correctly

Gigabyte Issues:

bad vcore, unstable and fluctuates between 1.70v and 1.95v under load

coldboot problems with high HTT speed

crashes when upping the HTT speed too much at a time

9x / 8x multi sligthly unstable

Asus Issues:

generally starts topping out in the 250's htt

wont work with ocz ddr booster

cpu temperature reading not working correctly

Abit Issues:

vtt fluctuates and is very unstable above 2.7v vdimm

weak pcb wich means traces on the boards tend to get damaged very easily if the board gets bent just slightly!

clockgen can only change multis on this board, not the bus speed?

many rev1.0 boards dont have working locks!

CPU-temp readings way off

Epox Issues:

coldboot issues, random crashes and freezes from usb hardware

cant run command rate 1t in slots 1&2

vdimm is stuck at 2.7v and wont rise

vcore ovp at 1.9v

does not support ocz ddr booster

SATA ports 1 and 2 cant be used with and any Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer, the airduct covers them entirely

 

[|3ourne]

in terms of convenience/ease/overclockability MSI is definitely my choice if you dont want to wait for the DFI Nf3. As for the PDP ram , TCCD at 2.9V is scalding hot but these ram modules were mildly warm. This is after 2 hours of Memtest #5 loops. So I really dont know what to make of them . But overall performance , i prefer Gskills hands down. Also having some active cooling on TCCD helps in overclocking as well. Becoz TCCD at 2.9 V is equivalent to Winbond chips at about 3.5V in terms of heat output. I got to DDR600 without active cooling but now the temps are hitting me , when my ambient is cool , like on a snowy or chilly winter day when i dare to open my window a bit and my room temps fall like a rock i can get these things upto DDR620 or 310 mhz at 2.5-4-3-7 but like right now with warm days and hotter days of summer around the corner , sometimes Memtest errors out at aswell . So right now im looking for some sort of makeshift ram cooler or maybe some L brackets that i can attach to my case fram with a 40 or 60 mm fan blowing over the ram modules .

 

[muffin]

Kempez, www.overclock.co.uk has the Epox NF3 boards

Hold your horses xms, I'm gettin that Epox next week - I'll report back on my findings. I'm gonna use Frags volt mod on the RAM too

 

[FarFarAway]

in terms of convenience/ease/overclockability MSI is definitely my choice if you dont want to wait for the DFI Nf3. As for the PDP ram , TCCD at 2.9V is scalding hot but these ram modules were mildly warm. This is after 2 hours of Memtest #5 loops. So I really dont know what to make of them . But overall performance , i prefer Gskills hands down. Also having some active cooling on TCCD helps in overclocking as well. Becoz TCCD at 2.9 V is equivalent to Winbond chips at about 3.5V in terms of heat output. I got to DDR600 without active cooling but now the temps are hitting me , when my ambient is cool , like on a snowy or chilly winter day when i dare to open my window a bit and my room temps fall like a rock i can get these things upto DDR620 or 310 mhz at 2.5-4-3-7 but like right now with warm days and hotter days of summer around the corner , sometimes Memtest errors out at aswell . So right now im looking for some sort of makeshift ram cooler or maybe some L brackets that i can attach to my case fram with a 40 or 60 mm fan blowing over the ram modules .

I spose that would be a bit like the RAM cooler on the ABit 3rdEye - good idea if you ask me.

 

[JN]

Kempez, www.overclock.co.uk has the Epox NF3 boards

Hold your horses xms, I'm gettin that Epox next week - I'll report back on my findings. I'm gonna use Frags volt mod on the RAM too

Next week....hurry up and get it now

 

[muffin]

Next week....hurry up and get it now

Can't. I don't my £1000 tax free student loan payment till monday

 

[JN]

Can't. I don't my £1000 tax free student loan payment till monday

Fari 'nuf. What chip r u putting it with?

I wish DFI would release their NF3 board so i can see what their offering is like

 

[muffin]

Fari 'nuf. What chip r u putting it with?

I wish DFI would release their NF3 board so i can see what their offering is like

3000+ Winchester, and Crucial Balistix DDR400 for RAM

 

[JN]

3000+ Winchester, and Crucial Balistix DDR400 for RAM

Nice..... :yumyum:

 

[|3ourne]

3000+ Winchester, and Crucial Balistix DDR400 for RAM

Why not TCCD ?

Ballistix will run out of breath on you at about 260 mhz or so for tight timings.

 

[muffin]

Why not TCCD ?

Ballistix will run out of breath on you at about 260 mhz or so for tight timings.

1) Because everything anyone says about Ballistix is excellent. Anandtech love it.

2) I'm getting a gigabyte for £100. Nuff said.

3) I'm a fan of the underdog. TCCD hogs the limelight, but Micron chips should not be underestimated.

 

[NickS]

As we all know, the best brands on the market, overall, are...

MSI, Giga-Byte, DFI, and EPoX. So, of course it's going to be hard, so thats why we say, go for the DFI .

 

[|3ourne]

@ Muffin :Anandtech got a "magic pair" of ballistix . People all over the forums are topping out at 265 mhz . I topped out at about 270 with 2.9V on it. No doubt ballistix is a very good and fast memory but then why not get a 3200+ or a 3500+ so you can enjoy a higher multi resulting you in getting a higher overall clock speed. Thats a good price for a Gig of ballistix though.

@ Nicks : Nicks man , a week earlier you would have sworn my MSI board as your first choice , now its DFI ? Make up ur mind man

 

[NickS]

DFI for OCing, duhr. MSI for a bitof everything.

 

[RollerCam540]

I would recommend MSI, it's a good, stable, reliable board. I had two of them and each board was great. Never had any problems with it. Not to mention, I frequent the MSI forum and you don't hear too many DOA stories.

With any NF3 board, make sure you use SATA 3/4 when connecting your hard drives; 1/2 are not locked therefore whenever you raise the FSB your bound to corrupt data around 220 or so. Also, I wouldn't plan on getting DDR400 speed with 4 sticks of dual bank/sided memory. NF3 only allows 4 banks of memory at DDR400 speeds. Therefore, make sure you're only using 2 sticks of memory.

Now comes the important part: if you're planning on overclocking, I would be less worried about the motherboard and more worried about your CPU! Some A64 CPU's just don't overclock! IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE NUMBERS ON THE FRONT OF THE CPU! You can post all the information on the front of the CPU here and I can tell you whether or not it's going to be a good clocker. The likelihood of you hitting 300+ FSB is silly. High FSB's don't help because no memory can run at that FSB and you have a high multiplier with your 3500+ (11x) therefore you don't need to run a high FSB to make up for a low multiplier to hit 2.7ghz (most A64 limits (ie. 300x9 = 2.7ghz)). If your chip does not overclock well, I would wait till the Venice cores are out and then I would purchase one of them. So far, by the looks it it, they overclock better than any winchester.

What kind of RAM do you plan on using with this board? I hope it's some PC4400/4800.