What is the fastest gaming cpu for am3? When overclocked...

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FillaFillason

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What is the fastest cpu when it comes to gaming whith a 870a-ud3 whit an am3 supports? Review them up against eatch other overclocked...

I got a Kuler H2o 620 witch are working quite well :-)

I am now running my athlon x3 450 on to 3.68GHz,2.3GHz nb on 1.5 v, all core enabled, running on tempratures of 35 degrees max on stresstesting.

Is it any point to uppgrade to for.eks x4 955 be? Will it be an noticeble difference in performance in gaming?

Is the phenom x6 1090 the fastest am3 processor available?

Last, a question, if cooled properly, will an voltage of 1.65-1.7 kill the cpu in a matter of months? Any who know this by experience or education?
 
First thing, 1.65v is not a good idea, 1.55v max only if temps alow, 55C max on full load. I no this because ive had all of AMD's cpus under air, water, phase, and ln2.

The 1090t will be overkill for gaming, 4 cores is just fine.

My advice to you would be the phenom 2 890 witch will overclock very nice to 4.4ghz @1.48v - 1.52v.
 
Thanks for the reply

LOL, but you dont answer the question. I say IF you manage to keep the cpu cool, will it kill it to run it on lets say 2v? I know thats not possible, i just want to understand how mutch volts alone kill.

Phenom 2 x4, what is the difference between them, is it the exact same chip but whit other "settings"?

Is it a minor, medium or major difference between an 4.4 890 vs a b50 no l3 chache at 3.7-3.9GHz?

My cpu runs stable on 3.9 if i rasie the voltage to 1.61, rather high but the temprature dont go mutch past 40 degrees celcius. (Will that kill the cpu in a matter of short time, or do it just lower the cpu lifetime whit 50-60%? If so, the chip should be operating fine in 5-8 years)
 
FillaFillason said:
Thanks for the reply

LOL, but you dont answer the question. I say IF you manage to keep the cpu cool, will it kill it to run it on lets say 2v? I know thats not possible, i just want to understand how mutch volts alone kill.

I dont think it would last more than a year above 1.6, maybee if you were using zubzero cooling

Phenom 2 x4, what is the difference between them, is it the exact same chip but whit other "settings"?

yes its the same chip but a hand pick much better quality one.

Is it a minor, medium or major difference between an 4.4 890 vs a b50 no l3 chache at 3.7-3.9GHz?

For gaming quite bit better i would say, the l3 cache will realy help

My cpu runs stable on 3.9 if i rasie the voltage to 1.61, rather high but the temprature dont go mutch past 40 degrees celcius. (Will that kill the cpu in a matter of short time, or do it just lower the cpu lifetime whit 50-60%? If so, the chip should be operating fine in 5-8 years)

Dont do it 1.55 max, their's no point in killing kit for 2 or 3 fps.

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"I dont think it would last more than a year above 1.6, maybee if you were using zubzero cooling"

Zubzero cooling, i dont know what that is,hehe, but if you manage to keep the temprature low whit other means, isnt that the same? Isnt it just the temp. that counts?

So you recommend 890, but what about the other in the phenom ii x4 series? whit higher numbers, is they any better? more carefully picked or something like that?

Thanks for great answers by the way:-)
 
FillaFillason said:
"I dont think it would last more than a year above 1.6, maybee if you were using zubzero cooling"

Zubzero cooling, i dont know what that is,hehe, but if you manage to keep the temprature low whit other means, isnt that the same? Isnt it just the temp. that counts?

So you recommend 890, but what about the other in the phenom ii x4 series? whit higher numbers, is they any better? more carefully picked or something like that?

Thanks for great answers by the way:-)
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zubzero cooling is a cooler that cools below -0.. lol

955 3.2ghz oc to around 4ghz

965 3.4ghz oc to around 4.2ghz

980 3.7ghz both the one's i tested oc'ed to 4.4 on air cooling 24/7

Your Athlon x3 450 is also the same chip just a poor quality one, thats why you need crazy volts for 3.9 ghz.
 
High volts decrease the lifetime of a CPU. No more than 1.5v for a 1090T for example.
 
okay, the fastest amd cpu is the 1100T (AM3). full stop

4.1-4.3 on air @1.475v 24/7

some say that 6cores is overkill for gaming, and at the present they are correct. but, 2012 will be bringing games that can use any number of cores to enhance its performance. and, besides that, you wont be useing your rig JUST for gaming.

as for the voltage - the higher it is - the hotter the chip gets. and, the longer the cpu stays hot for, over a prolonged period, degrades its lifetime.

as a rule, most OCers find their CPUs best speed, and then downclock them a little to give longevity.

anyone can get a fast CPU and mobo, but seating the heatsink correctly and applying performance thermal paste (like NT-NH1 or IC-Diamond24) efficiently is the key to good OCs.

i have written some decent guides to overclocking AMD cpus on this forum. take a look
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Fastest AM3 CPU would be a Phenom II x6. While you could argue no games require more than 4 threads, the Thuban CPUs tend to overclock better than thier Quadcore Deneb counter parts. As to which one to pick the 1100T will most likely give you the highest overclock, but if you get lucky with the silicon lottery with any of the lower binned chips you should be able to hit the same max overclock speeds.

As for voltages I personally wouldn't go past 1.5V unless I had a custom watercooling loop or more.
 
8BIT: LOL! sub-zero, ofcourse it is below 0 degrees, dont know how i could miss that!( I tought of Mortal Kombat and amiga 500 instantly and didnt figure out what it means,haha) My only exuse is that im from Norway,hehe!

So you think it is overkill to go whit the 6core for gaming. That was my first tought as well, but after a year or two, will that not change? Seems strange if games dont start to take advantage of 2more cores.

DUGDIAMOND:You say, unless you have a custom watercooler you wouldn't go past 1.5v, so if you manage to stay cool, you actually would go up to 1.55-1.65 to get alittle more power from the chip?

Anyone who has tried the H2o 620 in here?

Despite it has a smal radiator, it does the jobb pritty well! I went from 68degrees on stockcooler on stresstest to below 28degrees.

Whit a volt of 1.5 on 3.68MHz 4 core( i have alittle feeling that i was above averge lucky whit my athlonx3 450,any who know?) and it dont get any hotter than just below 40degrees if the room is warm, if it is cold the cpu dont get more than 30 degrees on stress-test. You agree that this is a pritty good performace for a little kit like the 620?

So, the the conclusion on the cpu, any who know where the gaming industri is doing at the time? I mean, will they start pogramming for 6 core in the future or is it 2-3 years ahead of us?

1090 and 1100. It has a difference of almost 30 us dollar, all will agree that it is better to go for the 1090? bouth end up at the same clock speed more or less?
 
In the oc guide i read it says if i dont have an unlocked multi. i will have to settle whit 14x. Why is mine highest 16 insted of 14? Is it because of my motherboard? My highest NB and HT is 10x and cpu is 16x,15.5x,15x osv

My mb handle a buss of just above 220 whitouht getting unstable, but when my fsb is on for.eks 320, does that effeckt my ram or other part of the computer? i know it affeckt the nb and ht indirectly, but is it difference between an 2300Hz NB whit a fsb on 320 compared to an 2300Hz NB whit an fsb on 200?

Does raising my bus autom. inncrease my temprature on motherboard,ram etc?
 
LOL, im starting to wondering if zero people in here doesn't know how the buss exactly works. They only seems to know how to get things to work, withouth understanding exactly what is happening on the mb,nb,sb etc..hum..
 
i wouldnt run a amd cpu on more than 1.45v air cooled 24/7 mate.

i would look at the new x4 t cpu as they are 6 core cpu with 2 cores locked and i have read that many people are unlocking them to x6s.
 
On my next days of ill make an Overclocking video guide, to cover everything on am3 patform, their are lots of guide's but most are not noob freindly
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Ill go indepth into bios.
 
8bit said:
On my next days of ill make an Overclocking video guide, to cover everything on am3 patform, their are lots of guide's but most are not noob freindly
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Ill go indepth into bios.
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That sound fine!

But, im running on 1.5v, but my temp dont go past 40 in a warm room, so i think its ok. If i kill 60% of its life, it is ok by me, it still should last a good 5-7 years:-) Im using h2o 620, it is alittle less effective than the best air cooling, but its the temp thats matter, right?

Stress testing it as we speak, just raised my nb freq to 2,56GHz. As i understand it, raising the nb should raise the performance...?

So the new x4t, what do you mean by that? Core unlocking seems to work very well on gigabyte 870a-ud3, or i was just lucky whit my athlon x3 450. Just switch open cores in bios from disable to enable and boom, it was a phenom b50:-)
 
marsey99 said:
i wouldnt run a amd cpu on more than 1.45v air cooled 24/7 mate.

i would look at the new x4 t cpu as they are 6 core cpu with 2 cores locked and i have read that many people are unlocking them to x6s.
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Is it exactly the same as 1000->1100 series? Same l3 cache etc if you are lucky and get it opened whit healthy cores? how far have you heard of them clocking them when they are using all 6th core? I only has a h2o 620(its almost as good as the best air,just 4-5degrees higher on full load acording to the tests i have seen), works like a charm om my current chip at 1.5 volt, but not sure how it would handle an that chip? I dont plan on changing cooling! I just got this, and i got it becasue it gives decent cooling to a very low price,and it fits in my computer, unlike the best air cooling system.

But i can imagine that the x4 t is cheaper than the 1090. But how are the odds of opening them and oc to a 6core 4.1-4.2GHz without going insane whit the volts?
 
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