Vista Ultimate 32/64bit SP1

So when it would be released. Also, was searching the web and found that whoever buys a windows after a certain day this month would have to purchase the SP1 cd. Now my question is that since I did not active mine due to the fact that I did not build my PC since I pre-ordered my Q9450, would I be able to install SP1 without having to buy an additional Product-Key???
 
name='Thunderer' said:
So when it would be released. Also, was searching the web and found that whoever buys a windows after a certain day this month would have to purchase the SP1 cd. Now my question is that since I did not active mine due to the fact that I did not build my PC since I pre-ordered my Q9450, would I be able to install SP1 without having to buy an additional Product-Key???

Hmm, I`d seriously doubt it, it`s a KB file. Or they are single KB files for the architecture u`ve installed. Similarly u can uninstall it - bizarrely enough for something that was meant to `move the earth` for Vista.

name='teknokid' said:
Ive already got it, noticed no difference so far...

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name='Kempez' said:
RTM isn't officially out yet, but there are some people who will have access to it

Well this is the thing, I don`t have it as in me personally. But I do have it in the sense that professionally I have it/them. As in for 32 & 64 bit. Privately I can use it, but I can`t/won`t for example give it to Fred at this point. Although Fred will be able to get it sooner than he may think. Other than that, I have no nda or anything. Not like other freakin things u can`t talk about.

So that out of the way.

Does take a whole long time to install it. Not like previous service packs. It by all accounts closes down Vista`s backbone and instigates itself like a raw OS install. i.e. restarts after unravelling itself on ur drive and runs bare minimum stuff on execution.

The Defrag tool now lets u select the drives individually in the form of a tick list.

My Blu-Ray drive is in the file lister as a Blu-Ray Drive by name, probably a driver thing. (actually using the same driver, so it must be the explorer-handler)

This is not going to be something u can slipstream btw. You want Vista SP1 as a package, you will have to buy it as such. Which to be fair I think Thunderer may`ve been referring to. Wild how the initial install of Vista goes real quick, then u can w8 an hour+ for the SP1 to apply.

Doesn`t appear u can install it on a previously slipstreamed Vista install. Can`t confirm that for fact, only that the 1 I tried failed.

Driver issues have popped up. - but here`s the thing. What the m$ guy was trying to say was that the SP1 re-installs drivers. I said that`s crap, it merely pulls them out of the way, installs itself, then puts them back. Technically that`s correct, it`s gone quiet as to it not being correct. If u reinstall the drivers urself, everything is fine. So drivers don`t need to change, they`re just not handled with care in some cases by the SP1. Imo, best approach is a new install and not apply SP1 to an existing Vista setup with all the drivers installed. Can be tricky for some cases where u ask something to upd8 ur drivers for u, and it tells u u have the right drivers.

Performance wize, I haven`t seen the quoted "big improvement" people are talking about in the circle, I don`t honestly know where this is coming from. Two machines I`ve tried it on myself have the same memory footprint, the one now takes an absolute age to come out of the locked status. U move the mouse or something and the monitor takes a longer time to acknowledge, almost long enough for u to think it`s literally locked up. Could be specifically to that pc tho, not all of mine are setup to use auto-shut-off of monitors so I can`t say.

Looks like the bug where it would leave an empty folder behind after u tried to move it and one of the files was busy - then u "unbusied" it has gone.

Bit undetermined whether file movement is slicker or not cos the major file moving pc I use has DirectoryOpus on it, which improved over explorer generally anyway.

.. frankly as I discover stuff I`ll post it here.
 
I for one think it can only get better. I mean changing the kernel is a big thing and hopefully we will notice it. I just changed back to vista x64 and it is better since last time but games do sometimes have noticeable lag spikes and vista throws the occassional tizzy fit
 
It was released to RTM on feb 3rd (or 4th cant remember). Also like to point out that microsoft are not calling the kernel an "upgrade", so i cant see much changing in that respect. Biggest changes you will see in vista sp1 are so it ties nicely in with server 08.
 
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