Microsoft are reportedly gearing up for a 2H 2009 release for Vista's successor.
Details in the news article
Details in the news article
Vista successor scheduled for a H2 2009 release?
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Rastalovich
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Figured this one out by logic tbh.
There will be masses of manufacturers cashing in on the marketing aspect of "2010", I wouldn`t expect m$ to miss out.
It`s partially the reason I related Vista to ME, although peoples jump right out of their seats when I bring it up. It`s not wholely on the basis of how it performs, but also how long it will spend as a concern in itself.
Bring out Vista, have issues which are undeniable, then bring a champion. Test off the back of it, make some cash along the way.
A 2010 named release, coming out in l8 2009 will be like XP is today imo.
There will be masses of manufacturers cashing in on the marketing aspect of "2010", I wouldn`t expect m$ to miss out.
It`s partially the reason I related Vista to ME, although peoples jump right out of their seats when I bring it up. It`s not wholely on the basis of how it performs, but also how long it will spend as a concern in itself.
Bring out Vista, have issues which are undeniable, then bring a champion. Test off the back of it, make some cash along the way.
A 2010 named release, coming out in l8 2009 will be like XP is today imo.
Very well said Rast! 
I know what you mean.. you cannot say anything bad about Vista with it turning into a debate.
I am so suprised so many of us on here have moved to it.. considering how well educated most of us are in the world of OS's.
Understand where I am going? lol, My grandad(80 years of age) had a muck about on Vista and said OMG, why is this POS so slow.. so laggy and why have they just masked XP with this stoopid GUI.. haha made me laugh.
Don't get me wrong the GUI of Vista is pretty I admit and I like it.. but that is all Vista is. a new look.
Oh and it is ment to be more secure. My arse... why it is less sercure than XP.. mainly because hackers now aim for the new tech rather than old.
Phew.. sorry, had to get some stuff off my chest.
I will be with XP/Server 2003 until the next Windows thank you very much.
Don't hurt me..
I know what you mean.. you cannot say anything bad about Vista with it turning into a debate.
I am so suprised so many of us on here have moved to it.. considering how well educated most of us are in the world of OS's.
Understand where I am going? lol, My grandad(80 years of age) had a muck about on Vista and said OMG, why is this POS so slow.. so laggy and why have they just masked XP with this stoopid GUI.. haha made me laugh.
Don't get me wrong the GUI of Vista is pretty I admit and I like it.. but that is all Vista is. a new look.
Oh and it is ment to be more secure. My arse... why it is less sercure than XP.. mainly because hackers now aim for the new tech rather than old.
Phew.. sorry, had to get some stuff off my chest.
I will be with XP/Server 2003 until the next Windows thank you very much.
Don't hurt me..
Rastalovich
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7
For some regular non-confirmable wranglings. Including the thing about the kernel.
For some regular non-confirmable wranglings. Including the thing about the kernel.
name='Toxcity' said:Very well said Rast!
I know what you mean.. you cannot say anything bad about Vista with it turning into a debate.
I am so suprised so many of us on here have moved to it.. considering how well educated most of us are in the world of OS's.
Understand where I am going? lol, My grandad(80 years of age) had a muck about on Vista and said OMG, why is this POS so slow.. so laggy and why have they just masked XP with this stoopid GUI.. haha made me laugh.
Don't get me wrong the GUI of Vista is pretty I admit and I like it.. but that is all Vista is. a new look.
Oh and it is ment to be more secure. My arse... why it is not less sercure than XP.. mainly because hackers now aim for the new tech rather than old.
Phew.. sorry, had to get some stuff off my chest.
I will be with XP/Server 2003 until the next Windows thank you very much.
Don't hurt me..
not going to get into a debate. But remember when XP came out. People were saying the same as above. I bet they said the same with 98, i bet they say the same with the next version.
Rastalovich
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name='nathan' said:
I don`t remember that myself, but to be fair I was using a real OS prior to falling into 98. Part I recall were people being thankfull of a newer OS that was loosely wrapped around 2000, but inherently NT based and had a very very bare minimal connection with ME. Lots of peoples around me were using windows2000, or sticking with 98se (cos 98 sucked eggs) on the basis that ME = BSOD for any reason u could think of, including the wind blowing the wrong way, so it seemed and felt.
People DID however hear alot of similar things about ME. ME had a nice branch in the file selection process with the adoption of icons and some other little things - but just didn`t like staying on for too long.
I swear, it`s almost like in-between OSes are being released. As far as the customer is concerned, they would have been happy with XP updated with Dx10 - and left at that, maybe a change from grey/blue/grey color scheme. If it perhaps wasn`t for Apple releasing niceness after niceness, Vista may aswell have stayed on the shelf afaic.
name='Toxcity' said:Another well said post there Rast!
I totally agree, I remember the moved to XP from 2000.. and I loved it!
XP was a god of all OSs (FOR GAMING and buisness)
I really do hope that the next Windows won't be has bogged down and unresponsive as Vista.
i'm still going to stick up for vista. my experiance hasnt been as bad as others say. I had vista running beautifully on a p4 2.8 northwood with 1gb of ram.
Either way, i hope to see alot of improvements when sp1 is released. Looking forward to using server 2008, i think theres some pretty good features.
name='Mr. Smith' said:Hmmmm... Now I don't know if I should bother shelling out £70 for an oem of 64bit vista if it's replacement is coming end of 09, actually that is nearly 2 years lol. I want dx10 so yeah.
An improved OS with dx10/11 is fine by me
I was thinking that a min ago.. Like eurgghhh so soon.. Then thought na still over a year and a half. Whats £70 over 18 months... Not much!
realitybytes
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Yes had already heard about this, hmm Vista and ME I do not get the comparison myself. The only real comparison people are making when they use ME and Vista is the fact that the take up of the operating system has not been on the usual scale. If you place the operating systems in the history chart and list the changes that had been made to the cores and end user, the reason for the developement then just what comparisons can you actually come up with? unless you ride it on the back of a preliminary OS which will be over 2 years in the market by the time this new OS actually hits as opposed to 1 year in the market ME was.
The fact is alot of people dont like change, personally I love change and will no doubt put something together around the new operating system release. But the fact remains that most windows operating systems do not become stable until the first service pack release, Vista will no doubt be up to service pack two when this new O/S gets released and be stable while the new one will no doubt be full of bugs for the first year.
If anything Microsoft is going back to its old ways where we will see a new operating systems released more regulary.
The fact is alot of people dont like change, personally I love change and will no doubt put something together around the new operating system release. But the fact remains that most windows operating systems do not become stable until the first service pack release, Vista will no doubt be up to service pack two when this new O/S gets released and be stable while the new one will no doubt be full of bugs for the first year.
If anything Microsoft is going back to its old ways where we will see a new operating systems released more regulary.
Rastalovich
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name='ionicle' said:
Get rid of the 8.3, change or lose registry, reset hardware properly as apposed to restarting the whole machine to do it.
In all honesty, I`d prefer an OS to be a file like OS, and the glitzy stuff optional. Get too far away atm from a computer being a technical piece of kit and too much of a pretty picture.
Why waste time on such a thing as a SideBar when there are options out there already. Spend a handful of months trying to perfect that (and now continue to work on exploits based around it) - or - work on the explorer.
Moment 8.3 goes completely, u`ll know u got an OS written from the ground up.
name='ionicle' said:
LOL, are you serious? do you really expect anyone in this world to write a whole OS in binary? millions upon millions of lines of code, all in...
000000101010101010100101010100101010101001010101010101001
Microsoft have enough of a problem getting things out on time.
(sorry, dont mean to nasty)
name='Rastalovich' said:
I do agree with some of your comments above, but you have to remember that theres going to be more "average" pc users than the techys of us. People who arnt going to be able to go out, find, install a 3rd part sidebar.
techys can easily disable/uninstall this, but would a non techy be able to install it?
Based on the above, i think they made the right decision.
When you say file like os, do you mean one without a gui? I think we'll start to see this in the desktop enviroment soon. Server 08 has the ability to be installed without a GUI.
FarFarAway
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In fairness if you don't want the shiny, user-friendly GUI stuff go get yourself a clean linux and install that. Don't buy MS products and moan about them
Perhaps if everyone who hates Microsoft so much does this then linux will actually make more of an impact
Perhaps if everyone who hates Microsoft so much does this then linux will actually make more of an impact
SuB
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to those who said re-write it each time.. what do you think would happen to backwards compatibility, games wise...
you upgrade to a ground up new os and nothing old works..
OR they write stuff to compensate for it and you're basically back to square one...
unfortunately for windows it has to be, at its core.. windows
btw i know its harsh but that plane crash at heathrow?
my dad told me about it, the power went out... first words out of my mouth were ' was it running on windows? ' a little untasteful (they all got out unhurt as far as i'm aware?) but i found it quite amusing
you upgrade to a ground up new os and nothing old works..
OR they write stuff to compensate for it and you're basically back to square one...
unfortunately for windows it has to be, at its core.. windows
btw i know its harsh but that plane crash at heathrow?
my dad told me about it, the power went out... first words out of my mouth were ' was it running on windows? ' a little untasteful (they all got out unhurt as far as i'm aware?) but i found it quite amusing
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