To upgrade, or not to upgrade?

[AlienALX]

I already told you ages back that a 750 is fine if you are sticking with the 1080. If you go 1080Ti then up it to 850, as the Ti can use up to 250w alone. Which is why you don't want a stock one, as they sound like Heathrow on a busy morning as soon as you load them up to 80% or more. We're talking 100% fans.

 

[Surfie]

I already told you ages back that a 750 is fine if you are sticking with the 1080. If you go 1080Ti then up it to 850, as the Ti can use up to 250w alone. Which is why you don't want a stock one, as they sound like Heathrow on a busy morning as soon as you load them up to 80% or more. We're talking 100% fans.

Yes. You did. I was more asking about the 1080ti though.

I'm in a quandary, and don't know which way to go (talk about first world problems...lol). On the one hand, for what i do, I'm fairly sure that the 1080 would be enough. Plus the cost of the ti is the cost of the system plus half again.
On the other hand, there's more variety in water blocks for the ti, they are easier to get, and provide more benefit. Plus better performance.
But the cost.... And around and around we go. Lol.

I should ping AngryGoldFish. He got the 1080 in his. Would be good to know how he finds out at 1440....

Edit: i could always dedicate 600mm rad space to cooling the ryzen i guess. Wonder if it would mean i could push the volts up higher?

 

[AlienALX]

My Titan XM was just about enough for ultra settings on 1440p. So we are talking around 1070 levels. 1080 IMO would be about enough now, as that was a while back and games are getting heavier.

I am running a Titan XP @ 1440p and sometimes DSR to 4k and it is obviously more than a match for 1440p.

 

[Warchild]

So, if I'm planning on overclocking (which am), i should get a bigger psu?

Re 1080 water block: sure, it's not needed as such. But if i don't use it, I'll have 600mm of radiator just to cool a cpu, which is massively overkill. No reason not to add the gpu in imo.

Does raise an interesting point: should i consider the ti? I initially wrote it off due to cost ( i mean seriously i would be spending 50% again the cost of the entire rest off the system!) and for the resolution I'm planning on running the benefit seemed to be questionable in terms of value.

If i were to get a ti, would i need to up the psu to >1000W?

No a 750 is fine for you. Since you are using 1 GPU. I was saying that you would hit a wall with overclocking AND used a 500W.

Ti is a fantastic card and leaves the 1080 behind. But cost wise, its a poor performance v value ratio. So it comes down to budget simple

 

[Surfie]

Whelp, I'm happy. I finally found a way to get the ti that i crave, for a price I'm willing to pay. The best part? It's a reference design.

The worst? It's from a fairly obscure company. One i know very like about: Inno3D. Anyone know anything about them?

 

[Tolemac]

Whelp, I'm happy. I finally found a way to get the ti that i crave, for a price I'm willing to pay. The best part? It's a reference design.

The worst? It's from a fairly obscure company. One i know very like about: Inno3D. Anyone know anything about them?

I have heard of them but sadly no experience with their products

 

[AlienALX]

Whelp, I'm happy. I finally found a way to get the ti that i crave, for a price I'm willing to pay. The best part? It's a reference design.

The worst? It's from a fairly obscure company. One i know very like about: Inno3D. Anyone know anything about them?

If it's a reference card then it wasn't made by them any way, it was made by a company called Manli. Well, that is who used to make all of Nvidia's cards for them. If Nvidia are actually making the cards themselves now then it will be an Nvidia card, if it is reference.

It just means Inno3D bought them naked and then put their cooler on.

I don't know if it's different in Aus but it doesn't really matter who you buy from in the EU. The warranty is covered by the place you bought it from, not the manufacturer. The retailer then has to sort it with the manufacturer unless it has an extended warranty (like Asus etc three years) then you have to RMA it with them if the retailer refuses.

 

[Tolemac]

Asus CS is the worse I have ever had to deal with don't get me wrong I love their Motherboards but when my Sabertooth AM3+ failed and was on the 5 year extended warranty Asus said I didn't buy it from the country I lived in. I bought it from Amazon so got them to sort it out. I'm not knocking their products but their CS needs sorting out

 

[AlienALX]

Asus CS is the worse I have ever had to deal with don't get me wrong I love their Motherboards but when my Sabertooth AM3+ failed and was on the 5 year extended warranty Asus said I didn't buy it from the country I lived in. I bought it from Amazon so got them to sort it out. I'm not knocking their products but their CS needs sorting out

Always been like that unfortunately. MSI isn't much better tbh.

 

[Surfie]

Woah. You guys are fast!

Much the same warranty wise here Alien. It's up to the reseller to sort out.

 

[Warchild]

Whelp, I'm happy. I finally found a way to get the ti that i crave, for a price I'm willing to pay. The best part? It's a reference design.

The worst? It's from a fairly obscure company. One i know very like about: Inno3D. Anyone know anything about them?

Reference cards are all the same. and Inno3D are fine. There will be no difference to an ASUS or EVGA. Just the warantee and customer support may differ (could be better than asus. but who knows)

 

[Surfie]

Thanks all for the feedback so far.
Last question (at least for now). I'm torn between these two monitors. Any and all feedback on thiswould be greatly appreciated:
32" Viewsonic
Or
32" AOC

 

[AlienALX]

Tough one. They both offer identical specs, even the refresh rate. Gotta say I do like the minimalist look of the Viewsonic though.

 

[Surfie]

Tough one. They both offer identical specs, even the refresh rate. Gotta say I do like the minimalist look of the Viewsonic though.

The biggest difference i can see is that the aoc is a va screen, while the viewsonic is ips.

 

[AlienALX]

The biggest difference i can see is that the aoc is a va screen, while the viewsonic is ips.

Go for the IPS IMO.

 

[Surfie]

Ok. Got the 1080ti, got the waterblock on order, and am gearing up to get the show on the road.

My research indicates that B350 motherboards (specifically the vrms above the cpu) have a problem sustaining high overclocks for long periods, and that the x370 boards might be a better buy.

Anyone here had any experience to verify e whether the research is just smoke or if there is anything to it?

 

[Warchild]

Go for the IPS IMO.

I'd say the opposite. IPS needs to be overclocked to reach higher refresh rates. Some games will present scanlines in doing so, e.g. RPGs where you have text windows.

VA colours are just as vibrant when viewing from optimal angle and can have a natural 144hz refresh rate.
I'm currently using an IPS gsync 3440p monitor. I regret buying it. My 27inch TN Panel was more enjoyable. Only advantage my current one has is the real estate.

 

[AlienALX]

I hated my TN panel. It was absolutely awful. BLB was like when a star comes out onto a dark stage and the spotlight follows them on. Mind you, TBF that was an Acer.

My panel overclocks OK from 60-70. Little bit of whine but that is to be expected.

 

[Warchild]

I hated my TN panel. It was absolutely awful. BLB was like when a star comes out onto a dark stage and the spotlight follows them on. Mind you, TBF that was an Acer.

My panel overclocks OK from 60-70. Little bit of whine but that is to be expected.

You should try overclocking an ips from 60-144hz. its like it resents your request even though it will do it. And those scanlines when im playing destiny2, or logged into wow.. yuck.

 

[AlienALX]

You should try overclocking an ips from 60-144hz. its like it resents your request even though it will do it. And those scanlines when im playing destiny2, or logged into wow.. yuck.

All I would get is "Out Of Range" and then I would be screwed. You can't see what is going on and you can't get into safe mode.