Lauralarry
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To be honest, this is amazing and i don't like macs
To be honest, this is amazing and i don't like macs
The New Retina Display MacBook Pro
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I'm a current owner of a 17" MacBook Pro and I was hopeful that they would add a Retina Display to the 17" model. Instead Apple has axed it completely. You can't even buy the old 17" model anymore, it's just .. gone.
Kinda makes me sad I've been buying the 17" Apple notebooks since they launched. I had a Powerbook and I've had two MacBook Pro's - I don't think I can go back to a 15" screen now, it just feels so small to me.
Having said that the new Retina Display 15" MacBook Pro looks really good and if that display is like anything on the iPad 3 or my iPhone 4S it will be worth getting. I'm gonna have to see one in person so I can make the decision about wether to buy one or stick with my current machine for a few more years.
Kinda makes me sad I've been buying the 17" Apple notebooks since they launched. I had a Powerbook and I've had two MacBook Pro's - I don't think I can go back to a 15" screen now, it just feels so small to me.
Having said that the new Retina Display 15" MacBook Pro looks really good and if that display is like anything on the iPad 3 or my iPhone 4S it will be worth getting. I'm gonna have to see one in person so I can make the decision about wether to buy one or stick with my current machine for a few more years.
BrandonR-NZ
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Can't wait to see people try and game at full res with any decent settings on the retina display with that little 650m lol.
nex-s
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I do not approve the price at all. If the price politics is continued as it is now, then after another 5 generations the top end Macbook Pro will cost you over 10k USD... Is that correct? Of course not...The older models should be getting cheaper and the new ones should cost as much as the old ones did when they came out. As it is now, the old ones continue costing pretty much the same, but the new ones get more and more expensive.
If it's anything like an iPad or an iPhone, you really won't run your screen at that resolution. What a retina display does on those devices is 4 pixels = 1 pixel. That's how everything gets sharper.
Edit: Thinking about it, it has to be something like this. Imagine how small desktop icons and text would be at that resolution. I run 1680x1050 on my 15" MBP, and honestly couldn't handle anything smaller.
Edit: Thinking about it, it has to be something like this. Imagine how small desktop icons and text would be at that resolution. I run 1680x1050 on my 15" MBP, and honestly couldn't handle anything smaller.
I think you're missing the point. The stuff on the screen is the same size as a 1440x900 MacBook Pro. The old 15".
The difference is this new display uses 4x as many pixels to deliver that same virtual resolution. This results in extremely fine grain text and images that rival what you see in printed books. No longer do you see pixelation around curved letters and numbers or jagged edges around circles.
They have put this amazing display in not to increase the work area and make everything teeny-tiny that you need a magnifying glass just to read this post but to increase the pixel density and thereby increase the overall quality of everything on the screen.
Just like they did with the iPhone 4 and iPad 3.
proffesorDub
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"top end graphics" my arse. A GT 650....
Wish they would just focus on the iMac and make that an absolute power horse.
Wish they would just focus on the iMac and make that an absolute power horse.
Rastalovich
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We'll be using these as they're introduced to the fleet as the new models.
We have people who'll find it very practical to have 1080 in a window of it's own, without scaling.
Thing that's strange to me, is that apart from photos, any movie footage shown on anything above 1080 and full screen, will be upscaled, which without processing, will look "bad/poor".
Gpus alot less powerful than a GT650 are suitable for the mac world. 650 is just the latest model of the generation.
iMac is marketted, mostly, to family/web users/office, verging on professional. You want power, buy a Pro.
Ditto with the 650.
Be nice to see some Dell Retina displays. 24" is a nice size physically - cram them pixels in !
proffesorDub
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i know, i did have pro on my desk at work even though i had changed from graphics, and i just feel as if there was such a step down, add to that i still sit next to the beast
on top of that, pros are far too expensive, ill keep getting hackintosh's to satisfy me
on top of that, pros are far too expensive, ill keep getting hackintosh's to satisfy me
Some other negatives on the new 15" with retina:
No cd/dvd drive. (I need this for a work PC, not so much for home use)
RAM is soldered.
No IR port (Not really a must, but a nice thing to have. My apple TV remote works with my MBP)
No ethernet port, you must use an adapter.
It seems like they sacrificed a lot to make the MBP thinner. The more I read about this the happier I am with my current laptop.
No cd/dvd drive. (I need this for a work PC, not so much for home use)
RAM is soldered.
No IR port (Not really a must, but a nice thing to have. My apple TV remote works with my MBP)
No ethernet port, you must use an adapter.
It seems like they sacrificed a lot to make the MBP thinner. The more I read about this the happier I am with my current laptop.
proffesorDub
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yes! thats what i was puzzled over, to say its lighter and thinner, theyve just gutted it.
ObscureParadox
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If i could just have a separate monitor with that sort of tech i'd be very happy, not really a huge fan of macs.
TheOneHalf
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The only thing that REALLY bugs me from that list is the ram being soldered. That kind of annoys me. Though the retina display macs have 8GB standerd so its not so bad. ^^
proffesorDub
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still, the ability to add more ram if needed or change i snice, especially when your paying through the nose for it
The pricing is actually a little better even if the starting price is higher.
If you pick the 2.6GHz IB model it comes standard with a 512GB SSD and 8GB of RAM. If you add the adapter for ethernet and the $79 super drive it's about $2900. For comparison, this MBP I'm typing on now was about $3200 with a 256GB SSD, 2.5GHz SB and 4GB of RAM about 7 months ago.
If you pick the 2.6GHz IB model it comes standard with a 512GB SSD and 8GB of RAM. If you add the adapter for ethernet and the $79 super drive it's about $2900. For comparison, this MBP I'm typing on now was about $3200 with a 256GB SSD, 2.5GHz SB and 4GB of RAM about 7 months ago.
Rastalovich
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Yeah Apple have done away with anything disc related. HP have been sending to us smaller elitebooks without drives for quite some time. Myself, I don't use them. Any use I have for them tends to be initial installs for windows/hacks, and burning for other people - but to be fair I can do all this over usb.
New MBPs haven't come with any restore media for some time - their claim is that you can rebuild/restore from usb and the net. Sounds scary to me.
If you buy Lion, it will always download the latest version to your desktop and on install, you can create rescue media. (and with know-how a new build usb, nice for hacks too)
Ask Tom how he feels about dvd drives.
The model MBP prior to these ones has a seemingly nice screen. Weird thing to me was if you put it infront of a light source, the lid was so thin, you can see the Apple logo.
Still, just like the Air, I think these will feel flimsy despite the claims to the contrary. I like my solid 2008 model, apart from the trackpad. Kitted with an ssd it's wonderfuel.
New MBPs haven't come with any restore media for some time - their claim is that you can rebuild/restore from usb and the net. Sounds scary to me.
If you buy Lion, it will always download the latest version to your desktop and on install, you can create rescue media. (and with know-how a new build usb, nice for hacks too)
Ask Tom how he feels about dvd drives.
The model MBP prior to these ones has a seemingly nice screen. Weird thing to me was if you put it infront of a light source, the lid was so thin, you can see the Apple logo.
Still, just like the Air, I think these will feel flimsy despite the claims to the contrary. I like my solid 2008 model, apart from the trackpad. Kitted with an ssd it's wonderfuel.
I've used the optical drive on my MBP probably 10 times in the past 3 years and each time it has been for OS installs which can all be done over USB Stick or the internet so for me I won't miss it one bit and if I did need it I always have a SATA to USB adapter that I can use a normal 5.25" Optical Drive with.
I'm glad they have abandoned the Optical Drive. And although Ethernet is important for some people it isn't for me as I use WiFi on my notebook and always have done. Just another legacy interface I won't miss on my laptop. On desktops it's a different situation though I'd always want Ethernet there.
I'm glad they have abandoned the Optical Drive. And although Ethernet is important for some people it isn't for me as I use WiFi on my notebook and always have done. Just another legacy interface I won't miss on my laptop. On desktops it's a different situation though I'd always want Ethernet there.
proffesorDub
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maybe im just a technophobe of sorts. I still use the CD drive on my iMac and prehistoric macbook g4 to upload CDs to itunes as i cannot find my taste in music on itunes. I still just do not use a laptop anymore, i have a desktop at home and a desktop at work, i literally do not have time for a laptop so i guess im not their target market
