The new 2500K?

[xnax2802]

So about 1½ years back my computer gave up on life and I've sort of not had the money to stay in the PC race, but now I'm back in the game

So I was basically just wondering; What's these days' equivalent of the 2500K? You know, Intel's back for the buck CPU? I've sort of gathered that I'm gonna get a Z77 board, but I'm lost on the new CPU's.. Any help much appreciated

 

[Cru]

the "new" 2500k is the 3570k

 

[seumasbeathan]

Personally I would wait for Haswell if I were you

 

[xnax2802]

Any info on release date or pricing on Haswell then?

 

[Feronix]

3570k is pretty much the Ivy Bridge 2500k. + One on Haswell though, only 3-4 more months or so. Said to be released in June

 

[xnax2802]

Okay, that's a bit too distant for me, but a great many thanks on the super fast replies! I'll go look around the site for some advice on the mobo

 

[iBeInspire]

Haswell is rumored to only have a ~ 7% increase over Ivy... Kinda put me off it x.x

I know it's all only speculation and it was an early sample, but 7% is frighteningly low, and it proves Intel are working more on the GPU than the CPU itself.
Personally i'd just stick with the 2500k, but the haswell equivalent will be around ~25-30% faster than a 2500k, you decide if that's worth the money

 

[Feronix]

MSI has the best line-up in the Z77 series, as many people will agree with me

 

[AverageNinja]

I agree on that Feronix

 

[seumasbeathan]

Haswell is rumored to only have a ~ 7% increase over Ivy... Kinda put me off it x.x

I know it's all only speculation and it was an early sample, but 7% is frighteningly low, and it proves Intel are working more on the GPU than the CPU itself.
Personally i'd just stick with the 2500k, but the haswell equivalent will be around ~25-30% faster than a 2500k, you decide if that's worth the money

That doesn't make sense :L You are saying that Ivy was a 18-23% increase over sandy? But yet Haswell is only going ot be 7% over Ivy, Haswell is going to be a much bigger increase over ivy than ivy was to sandy

 

[AverageNinja]

That doesn't make sense :L You are saying that Ivy was a 18-23% increase over sandy? But yet Haswell is only going ot be 7% over Ivy, Haswell is going to be a much bigger increase over ivy than ivy was to sandy

He's saying the i5 4670k (Haswell) will be that much faster than the 2500k

 

[iBeInspire]

That doesn't make sense :L You are saying that Ivy was a 18-23% increase over sandy? But yet Haswell is only going ot be 7% over Ivy, Haswell is going to be a much bigger increase over ivy than ivy was to sandy

No it won't
They changed the architecture, I'll give em' that but they only did work on the GPU, making marginal differences to raw computing power...
Here's the article I'm getting it from, and you can see for yourself the results are very worrying...
In my opinion Intel realised that the only thing AMD's got over them are APUs, so they just upper their GPU game; not bothering much with the CPU since they're winning the race anyway.

 

[SeekaX]

Haswell is rumored to only have a ~ 7% increase over Ivy... Kinda put me off it x.x

I know it's all only speculation and it was an early sample, but 7% is frighteningly low, and it proves Intel are working more on the GPU than the CPU itself.
Personally i'd just stick with the 2500k, but the haswell equivalent will be around ~25-30% faster than a 2500k, you decide if that's worth the money

still a 100% increase over my fx-4100
but yea, i wish they would stop developing the gpu, or even drop it. i'd rather have more cores / a cooler cpu.

 

[AverageNinja]

No it won't
They changed the architecture, I'll give em' that but they only did work on the GPU, making marginal differences to raw computing power...
Here's the article I'm getting it from, and you can see for yourself the results are very worrying...
In my opinion Intel realised that the only thing AMD's got over them are APUs, so they just upper their GPU game; not bothering much with the CPU since they're winning the race anyway.

That was an early review sample dude. That's a preview of what will come.
We'll never know what they might change or improve, untill they are officially on the market.

 

[iBeInspire]

That was an early review sample dude. That's a preview of what will come.
We'll never know what they might change or improve, untill they are officially on the market.

Not exactly breathing confidence into me though, and I was meant to be one of the many guys upgrading to Haswell x.x

Back on topic, if a 30% per-clock upgrade is worth the money for you, go for haswell when it drops
I wouldn't upgrade to a ivy 3570k though, that definitely seems like a waste...

 

[AverageNinja]

Good point. We'll see soon I guess

 

[Bruteforce]

There's no point to release the next tricks in their bag for CPU power at this time because they are so far ahead of AMD right now in terms of CPu processing. They're now just trying to dominate AMD in every facet of the game by ramping up their GPU capabilities.

 

[Bruteforce]

Not exactly breathing confidence into me though, and I was meant to be one of the many guys upgrading to Haswell x.x

Back on topic, if a 30% per-clock upgrade is worth the money for you, go for haswell when it drops
I wouldn't upgrade to a ivy 3570k though, that definitely seems like a waste...

That's a waste how mate? Before I bought my 3570k, I had a top of the line asus 990fx board and an fx 8 core. I literally had a more than 200% frame rate increase in some games just by making the processor change. 3570k is best gaming proc on the market right now, hate to break it to you.

 

[Master&Puppet]

It is never worth buying anything at release imo. Whether it is hardware or software because new things are never optimised at launch and you tend to pay a lot more for that privilege too.

It's worth noting though that there is also very little profit margin in CPUs so don't expect 3570Ks to drop in price. After all 2500Ks are only about 5% cheaper at retail today vs a 3570K and that's a nearly a full year since the latter was released.

If I were you, xnax2802, I'd get a 3570K now rather than wait 3-6 months to get something that will probably be 5-10% better.

 

[iBeInspire]

That's a waste how mate? Before I bought my 3570k, I had a top of the line asus 990fx board and an fx 8 core. I literally had a more than 200% frame rate increase in some games just by making the processor change. 3570k is best gaming proc on the market right now, hate to break it to you.

He's got a 2500k, going from a 2500k to a 3570k (25% increase at best) for £170 is waste of money in my opinion

EDIT : Just re-read the OP, I have a feeling I'm in the wrong

Mr.OP, If you don't have a CPU at all, Definitely go for the 3570k, it's the best gaming CPU around today
Sorry for my confusion, I though you implied you had a 2500k rig, and were looking for an upgrade... my bad