Soon I'll build first watercooling system

[grandpatzer]

I just bought used but in good condition watercooling parts, the seller has alot and only good feedback so I'm wery optimistic.

Looks like I'm about to have everything needed for my watercooling:

1: Used: CPU Block: EK Water Blocks EK-Supreme HF - EN (Nickel)

http://www.aquatuning.de/product_in...75-1156-1155-1366-2011-AM2-AM3-939-XEON-.html

2: Used: Laing D5-Pump with EK-D5 X-TOP

http://www.aquatuning.de/product_in...o-1-2-tubing-connector--Swiftech-MCP655-.html

http://www.aquatuning.de/product_in...-Blocks-EK-D5-X-TOP---Acetal-G1-4-Rev--2.html

3: Used: 360 Radiator Aquacomputer airplex XT 360

http://www.aquatuning.de/product_info.php/info/p3363_Aquacomputer-airplex-XT-360.html

4: Used: 240 Radiator EK Water Blocks EK-CoolStream RAD XT 240

http://www.aquatuning.de/product_info.php/info/p8084_EK-Water-Blocks-EK-CoolStream-RAD-XT-240.html

5: Used: Reservoir Capacity: 160ml EK-Multioption RES X2 - 150 Advanced

http://www.aquatuning.de/product_in...cks-EK-Multioption-RES-X2---150-Advanced.html

6. I'm also getting 1.5 meters tygon tubing and some connectors however this may not be enough for my system(?).



Q 1: So what else do I need, I guess I need to either make or buy some liquid?

My understanding is distilled water is popular?

Q 2: Someone suggested killcoil to put in liquid, this is so the block and radiator does not detoriate?

 

[Azurite]

I plan to use Swiftech HydrX Coolant and destilled water. It prohibits oxydation and formation of algea. Some use killcoils but im not sure if you need to add more into the water to prevent formation of algea? You could also just get a good premix.

The pump and cpu block you got are really good. Im not sure about those rads though.

You would need fittings also. Compression fittings are damm nice and they are also very secure(alitle expencive though). Make sure to get tubing with righ ID and OD for the compression fittings you chose. Barb fittings is also an option. They are cheap compared to compression fittings.

 

[grandpatzer]

I plan to use Swiftech HydrX Coolant and destilled water. It prohibits oxydation and formation of algea. Some use killcoils but im not sure if you need to add more into the water to prevent formation of algea? You could also just get a good premix.

The pump and cpu block you got are really good. Im not sure about those rads though.

You would need fittings also. Compression fittings are damm nice and they are also very secure(alitle expencive though). Make sure to get tubing with righ ID and OD for the compression fittings you chose. Barb fittings is also an option. They are cheap compared to compression fittings.

Thanks for all the helpful tips.

My impression from the seller was that this was pretty much complete system, however I'm sure it's possible it may not come with all fittings and so on.

I watched the overclock3d youtube watercooling guide review and learned that I can heat a 1/2" tygon tube with my fingers and connect it to 7/16" and it will be really secure.

As for the Aquacomputer 360 radiator I had a feeling it maybe is not a world champion radiator but I think it is still good, the EK 240 radiator might be higher quality (the EK 240 is same price as the Aquacomputer 360).

Still the 360 mostlikely gives me better cooling option because of size.

Ive done no research as for what liquid combination to use, I'll definitively look into Swiftech HydrX Coolant and destilled water.

Ive read on internet som only use distilled water but seems like also adding chemicals is safer.

I might also use killcoils as long as it does not have negative effects, maybe clogging or deterioate blocks?

Obviously if there is a complete liquid premix that I just pour into the system that might be best option for a beginner like myself.

 

[S_I_N]

Thanks for all the helpful tips.

I watched the overclock3d youtube watercooling guide review and learned that I can heat a 1/2" tygon tube with my fingers and connect it to 7/16" and it will be really secure.

As for the Aquacomputer 360 radiator I had a feeling it maybe is not a world champion radiator but I think it is still good, the EK 240 radiator might be higher quality (the EK 240 is same price as the Aquacomputer 360).

Still the 360 mostlikely gives me better cooling option because of size.

Ive done no research as for what liquid combination to use, I'll definitively look into Swiftech HydrX Coolant and destilled water.

Ive read on internet som only use distilled water but seems like also adding chemicals is safer.

I might also use killcoils as long as it does not have negative effects, maybe clogging or deterioate blocks?

Obviously if there is a complete liquid premix that I just pour into the system that might be best option for a beginner like myself.

those parts will be fine for a loop but you wont see any lower temps using both rads for a cpu only loop. If you plan on gpu cooling then both will be fine.

now go back and watch that video again lol you have it backwards mate. you can warm (but not necessary) I find it fits over with little effort 7/16 tubing to fit over 1/2 for a secure fit. 1/2 inch tubing is 8/16 so it would easily fit over 7/16 and most likely leak like hell with no

clamp.

as far as an all in one premix check out EC6 by Thermochill. Its what I am using now but has a premuim price of 14$ US per liter. My next change is going to be to distiller water with water wetter and a kill coil. Alot cheaper in the long haul with the same results to temps.

 

[Azurite]

Thanks for all the helpful tips.

My impression from the seller was that this was pretty much complete system, however I'm sure it's possible it may not come with all fittings and so on.

I watched the overclock3d youtube watercooling guide review and learned that I can heat a 1/2" tygon tube with my fingers and connect it to 7/16" and it will be really secure.

As for the Aquacomputer 360 radiator I had a feeling it maybe is not a world champion radiator but I think it is still good, the EK 240 radiator might be higher quality (the EK 240 is same price as the Aquacomputer 360).

Still the 360 mostlikely gives me better cooling option because of size.

Ive done no research as for what liquid combination to use, I'll definitively look into Swiftech HydrX Coolant and destilled water.

Ive read on internet som only use distilled water but seems like also adding chemicals is safer.

I might also use killcoils as long as it does not have negative effects, maybe clogging or deterioate blocks?

Obviously if there is a complete liquid premix that I just pour into the system that might be best option for a beginner like myself.

You could ask him if fittings are included. Theres a chance he got compression ones and want to keep it for a newer set up. Pre-mixes isnt that mutch more expencive, so thats a good idea. I hear primochill/feser pre-mixes are good

 

[grandpatzer]

Q: Can I run the system for a month with just destilled water?



Going back to the conversation I had with seller I can see he says fittings are included and that is it complete watercooling setup.

If I remember correct the fittings are called fat boy, which seems to be Danger den/bitspower according to google.

I'll have to ask the sellers though about the fittings, either way I should have it here soon, seems only thing I need now is killcoil & destilled water and lots of reading on watercooling

 

[hmmblah]

Q: Can I run the system for a month with just destilled water?



Going back to the conversation I had with seller I can see he says fittings are included and that is it complete watercooling setup.

If I remember correct the fittings are called fat boy, which seems to be Danger den/bitspower according to google.

I'll have to ask the sellers though about the fittings, either way I should have it here soon, seems only thing I need now is killcoil & destilled water and lots of reading on watercooling

I used distilled water with PT nuke and a kill coil in my loop. I wouldn't run plain distilled at all, algae will grow rather quick.

 

[mayhem]

do not get tygon tubing get some thing better.

 

[grandpatzer]

do not get tygon tubing get some thing better.

My impression was that Tygon is the best tubing for watercooling?

I was planning on using 7/16 5/8 Tygon.

 

[AydST]

Any fans for radiators? If not Gentle Typhoon 1850's best bet (AP15's)

You'll also need screws to mount the fans to the rads if they're not included, both rads have M3 threads so you'll need M3 x 30 if mounting 25mm depth fans (just be careful screwing them in not to puncture the rad tubes)

Tygons fine but expensive, I'd expect around 2 meters for a first build, allows headroom for mistakes, better to have too much than too little. If the kit comes with barbs I'd always recommend using hose clips though, while you can get away with running 7/16" tubing over 1/2" barbs you'd kick yourself if the worst ever happened, especially for the sake of a few quid for hose clips.

Distilled would be fine with Silver Coils but you need 1 coil per half litre of water and it's better to space the coils out over the loop rather than bung both in the reservoir, or a decent quality premix is fine as mentioned, Mayhems, Primochill, EC6 etc...

Nice stuff for a first loop, good CPU block, very strong pump, decent rads...you'll be able to push an overclock with that kit for sure.

Also enough headroom to add a GPU at a later date.

Also make sure you flush the loop fully before filling it 'properly' you don't want someone elses 'nasties' in your loop.

 

[grandpatzer]

Any fans for radiators? If not Gentle Typhoon 1850's best bet (AP15's)

You'll also need screws to mount the fans to the rads if they're not included, both rads have M3 threads so you'll need M3 x 30 if mounting 25mm depth fans (just be careful screwing them in not to puncture the rad tubes)

Tygons fine but expensive, I'd expect around 2 meters for a first build, allows headroom for mistakes, better to have too much than too little. If the kit comes with barbs I'd always recommend using hose clips though, while you can get away with running 7/16" tubing over 1/2" barbs you'd kick yourself if the worst ever happened, especially for the sake of a few quid for hose clips.

Distilled would be fine with Silver Coils but you need 1 coil per half litre of water and it's better to space the coils out over the loop rather than bung both in the reservoir, or a decent quality premix is fine as mentioned, Mayhems, Primochill, EC6 etc...

Nice stuff for a first loop, good CPU block, very strong pump, decent rads...you'll be able to push an overclock with that kit for sure.

Also enough headroom to add a GPU at a later date.

Also make sure you flush the loop fully before filling it 'properly' you don't want someone elses 'nasties' in your loop.

Thanks for helpful post

Yeah I'll flush everything with destilled water.

Q1: To flush them should I connect pump, rads and reservoirs with tubing and let it run on a kitchen table with destilled water then draing everything?

Q2: One thing I'm not certain is draining inside pc case, once everything is inside the computer and I need add gpu or maintenance how would I drain?

Ive seen Koolance has Quick disconnects maybe I need get those for draining?

Q3: So if 120x25mm fans need 3Mx30, What 3M would I need to install the rads inside the case?

 

[jack2k20]

do not get tygon tubing get some thing better.

Do you know what the best tubing is for WC?

 

[S_I_N]

Thanks for helpful post

Yeah I'll flush everything with destilled water.

Q1: To flush them should I connect pump, rads and reservoirs with tubing and let it run on a kitchen table with destilled water then draing everything?

rinse and repeat a few times will be good but yes basically give everything a good flushing what you want to make sure is there is no sediment from the manu process left inside

Q2: One thing I'm not certain is draining inside pc case, once everything is inside the computer and I need add gpu or maintenance how would I drain?

very carefully if I had a vid carema i would make a vid to show you easier. But what i do is remove the cpu block, its tubing normally has enough slack to get it outside the case. I have a catch pan/bowl readt and slowly pull one tube off. Being ready to plug the barb and hose with my fingers. Then I hold the block up high while holdiing the tube over the catch pan and slowly remove my finger to allow the fluid to drain into the pan/bowl. this wont remove all the fluid but does remove alot. (depending on rad orientation) . Cpu block should be able to be removed at this point. now if ya had a plug or 2 that fit the inside of the tubing you could plug those and start removing parts for flushing (or adding additional blocks) What I do is once rad is drained to where no more comes out I remove a tube from it and secure the one in my hand or the second rad tube to it basically sealing off the rad from spilling out what remains inside. This way I can remove rad where most of the remaining fluid will be.

Ive seen Koolance has Quick disconnects maybe I need get those for draining?

these are nice to have for the person who changes bits alot but imho junk up the looks of a case.

Q3: So if 120x25mm fans need 3Mx30, What 3M would I need to install the rads inside the case?

Assuming you mean the non fan side

M3 5mm should be fine mate its easy math

30mm for a 25mm fan leaves 5mm now if you have a super thick spot on ur case where its mounting them you'll have to measure it out. Most cases are about 1-2 mm thick in the mesh part where rads are placed so a 5mm screw should do the trick.

Do you know what the best tubing is for WC?

This is a trick question lol Mick (Mayhem) will suggest clear flex. he has tested and researched alot of different tubing. Tygon is just over priced junk. The only thing I dont like about clear flex is it has printing on it. I'm going to be using it on my upgrade but will just have to make sure its not seen lol. The trick part is if you want colored tubing cant get that in clear flex as well its clear as the name states lol.