Some Watercooling Advice?

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G01d3ngypsy

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Okay so i've got my watercooling loop setup and im happy with it, i've just got a feeling that i can get better temps & better flow, but im not sure how! Hence asking for some advice

Here's the rig anyway:
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I've got a 680 in the loop as you can see at the moment but another coming shortly, so i intend to drain the whole loop and change anything you guys recommend.

The main issue im having is connecting the lower rad to the pump, its a very short length of tube and it seems impossible to get it right with out a slight kink!

also ignore the wires they're going to be braided when i get the chance...

theres two sets of inline temp sensors and a flow meter going to an aquero 5, planning on running the cables along the tubing i think?

Maybe the use of angle connectors? and maybe some compression fittings? I'm really not sure what the best way to go on this would be, hopefully someone can advise :) cheers !
 
First thing I would recommend is to loose the quick disconnects because they make the loop harder and look messy :D

For the next part see this very artistic MS paint pic.

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I've numbered each bit of tubing to make it easier to explain.

For number 1, which is the tubing from the outside fitting of the top rad, the one nearest to you, to the CPU block. For that I would use two 45* fittings which will keep the tubing strait and shorter.

For number 2, from the CPU block to the GPU, using two 45* fittings again would make the tubing strait and shorter and look at lot tidier.

For number 3, from the GPU to the bottom rad, you could either use a 45* or a 90* from the GPU and for the rad you could use a normal fitting or a 45*. Personally, i'd go with two 45* fittings again to keep the tubing strait and tidy.

For number 4, from the bottom rad to the drive bay res. What I would do is use a res and pump combo, something like this with a D5 pump, or you could get one for a DDC.

http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop...-ONE-Laing-D5-Pump-New-Product-pid-15903.html

For fittings, from the rad I would use a 45* fitting and the same for the pump/res.

For number 5, from the pump/res I would use a normal strait fitting fitting from the pump/res and a 90* fitting on the rad.

Using the fittings like above will make your loop a lot tidier, strait and shorter, hope this helps.
 
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SieB is totally right...
you might be able to hide number 5 behind the rad?
and numer 4 through the drive bays with a 90* fitting?...
makes it even tidier!!!
 
Hate to say it but that is one messy rig.... Sad to say but thats how NOT to do it.

Buy some new hose rip it all out and start again dude. Water is meant to be tidy!


Which way are the fans flowing too.....?



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anything you dont really need remove. if you cant make it tidy bin it. cables are BAD. UV ccfls are a noob badge and that LED at the top with the wire showing just screams "Ive got this so Ill just use it" rather than "I actually really need this in there"


Good effort but you have a lot to learn!
 
They're not quick disconnects they're water temp sensors, so i'd kind of like to keep those in there!

The UV tubes are there for the time being till i work out what sort of lighting i want, and as you say i had the led's laying around so thought i'd see how they worked out.. turns out not very well..

This is my first crack at a "slightly more complex" WC loop, and i know it isnt great hence why i posted here!

The bulk of the mess is from temp sensor cables, thats what all the black ones are. I was going to red braid them and try and hide them somehow?

SieB thats just what i was looking for cheers, i'll get a whole load of parts and take my time with it. I just wanted to get it all working with the kit i had to start with!

Thanks for the replies guys! :D
 
tinytomlogan said:
Which way are the fans flowing too.....?
!
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They're all blowing threw the rads, so for the top they exhaust out of the top of the case, and for the bottom they exhaust out of the bottom.

I was going to do a push / pull setup for the bottom rad, but the temps didnt really give me a reason to?
 
ruthless_villain said:
well i still think that they are bloody daft as they do not contribute anything at all to your system
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well with respect that's your opinion, do some research into the aquearo 5 system and you will see that they do "contribute" to my system, I like it to be as quiet as possible, the fans control themselves based on water temps, the flow meter makes sure nothing is kinked / leaking / pumps working.

The wires might not look amazing at the moment, but they will do when i get the time to braid them. I've earnt the money to fit my system with the monitoring kit and its staying :)

Anyway this is besides the point, i'm not asking for the pro's and con's of a wc monitoring system, i'm just wanting to know what fittings people would recommend to get the best flow & aesthetic appeal, something which at the moment is not the best.. granted it does the job, but it would be nice for it to run perfectly when the new gpu gets put in there .
 
You are building closed loop so that sayd dont need more then one temp sensor.

I have 3 sensors. 2 in pumps, 1 in res. The one in reservoir would need manual calibration to the software to be helpfull and still there would be fails readings(star and end of the scale).

The two sensor on pumps are calibrated already as they menth to work with the program.
Firsth pump is after "cooled water" from res. and secend after "hot blocks". difference betwean those two on same program is under 1C

all means keep them but it aint wallk in the park kind of thing to get them work.

Edit: For fittings buy extra as its hard to say from pic will you need 45, 90,.. but those on firsth post sounds/ looks good ones to this setup. Allso would ad SLI/CF water pipe fiting betwean the cards when you got them.
 
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Mummy said:
You are building closed loop so that sayd dont need more then one temp sensor.

I have 3 sensors. 2 in pumps, 1 in res. The one in reservoir would need manual calibration to the software to be helpfull and still there would be fails readings(star and end of the scale).

The two sensor on pumps are calibrated already as they menth to work with the program.
Firsth pump is after "cooled water" from res. and secend after "hot blocks". difference betwean those two on same program is under 1C

all means keep them but it aint wallk in the park kind of thing to get them work.

Edit: For fittings buy extra as its hard to say from pic will you need 45, 90,.. but those on firsth post sounds/ looks good ones to this setup. Allso would ad SLI/CF water pipe fiting betwean the cards when you got them.
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I have the two temp sensors in the tubing just so i can see the difference in the temp between the water going into the blocks and out, because i was curious to see what the differences are.

Yeah i know they're not easy to work with, i've spent ages trying to get it all working properly.

With the fittings i think your right, i'm just going to get a whole load of new tubing (probs white instead of red) and a selection of fittings, just see where that takes me.

I'll post updates when i've made some changes and see what everyone thinks :)
 
G01d3ngypsy said:
I have the two temp sensors in the tubing just so i can see the difference in the temp between the water going into the blocks and out, because i was curious to see what the differences are.

Yeah i know they're not easy to work with, i've spent ages trying to get it all working properly.

With the fittings i think your right, i'm just going to get a whole load of new tubing (probs white instead of red) and a selection of fittings, just see where that takes me.

I'll post updates when i've made some changes and see what everyone thinks :)
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Just concentrate on making it a bit more tidy :)
The way it is on the picture just looks a right mess... Good luck with the rig!
 
Have to agree with Tom that your rig is a bit TOO messy.
But if you gonna listen to us you can help it:)
Can you turn you rad other way? So fitting facing the drive bays?That will help with the tube order.
Also get rid of this that you dont really need because it just makes your build looks bad.
 
yeah i intend to flip the rad round, and for the moment it works okay and im happy with it.. Can't really afford all of the fittings at the moment (a poor uni student see!) but once i can rest assured i'll rip it all out and start again, but all the temp monitoring and flow stuff will stay im afraid!

I'm using rigs from the gallery for ideas, but like i say i'll post photos when it's completed. But at the moment she runs okay and temps are good, so the "tidy up" will be done when ive got some spare cash!

thanks for the tips
 
lmfao your a poor uni student then spend ur money wisely mate and dont buy stupid shit imho those temps sensors and flow thingambullshits are a waste of time and money not to mention they make anything attached to it automatically UNTIDY


save your money and dont buy into the bullshit some manu's sell. statistic mastitics stop being lazy and do it proper anything that AUTOMATICALLY controls something can AUTOMATICALLY fail get a fan controller and be done if ya had asked before buying all that other crap we could of saved you a ton of $$ and you'd have a proper wc'd pc already
 
S_I_N said:
lmfao your a poor uni student then spend ur money wisely mate and dont buy stupid shit imho those temps sensors and flow thingambullshits are a waste of time and money not to mention they make anything attached to it automatically UNTIDY


save your money and dont buy into the bullshit some manu's sell. statistic mastitics stop being lazy and do it proper anything that AUTOMATICALLY controls something can AUTOMATICALLY fail get a fan controller and be done if ya had asked before buying all that other crap we could of saved you a ton of $$ and you'd have a proper wc'd pc already
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I spend my money on what i think is the best, I like statistics and total control.. i have a fan controller and its by no means automatic.. it needed a lot of setup.

Im not selling the pc so ultimatly it doesnt natter if it looks pretty! Just would be nice, hence asking for some advice from you guys.. Im not wanting to hear oh you shouldnt of wasted your money, to me its not a waste and i love the control it gives me.

Once i rip out all the tubing and change the fittings + braid the temp cables it will look nice, probs drill the case and mount the flow sensor somewhere out of the way too.

It might be a pricey system just to control a couple of fans and a pump, but to me its worth it. I'll spend £100 on a fan controller setup, but im not going to spend £200+ on making it look nice (until i have the money spare) when it all works fine!

I was just looking for a little advice thats all! :(
 
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