ncix have preordering setup on their website so they should get it soon ...... i think im gonna wait and see what other people are getting before i upgrade from my magic winnie

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btw Venice and Winchester at same clocks speeds if compared ...... venice > winchester .
looks like elongating that pipeline wasnt such a bad idea for amd after all
But then again I might jump the gun and get one for my lonely Neo2 sitting with me ...... or put my winnie in neo2 and plug in the venice on the dfi .......... or sell neo2 and get another dfi .
DAMN DECISIONS ! DECISIONS ! DECISIONS !
actually i might give abit an8 or epox a try ....... but i dun like the green pcb of epox