Small talk & Chit chat

Interesting conversation over on Discord the other night while we were playing Destiny.

So here's the thing, at what point in the future of games development is it going to be considered "too far" or "too real"? I mean with the recent birth of real time ray tracing and GPUs getting ever more powerful year on year and developers being on the edge of photo realism... at what point is a game no longer just a game and how are we going to perceive or rate these?

Take hypothetically GTA VI for example, if you throw in photo realism, real time lighting, physics, audio, AI.. wouldn't there be a blurred line between reality and simulation. Would devs have to dumb it down some how? What would the ratings be like from say PEGI? Just food for thought I guess but worth a discussion I figured.
 
I don't think we are quite there with photorealism and certainly not to the degree where it imitates real life, but as we get there, I do see a problem. If you can have such a realistic experience playing GTA VI where you can actually kill people and it seems real, it may numb us to violence. As of now the research says games do not have a negative effect on people because we know it's not real. But if it's such a real life image quality where it's hard to notice the difference I could see that research conclusion changing.
 
Wraith said:
Interesting conversation over on Discord the other night while we were playing Destiny.

So here's the thing, at what point in the future of games development is it going to be considered "too far" or "too real"? I mean with the recent birth of real time ray tracing and GPUs getting ever more powerful year on year and developers being on the edge of photo realism... at what point is a game no longer just a game and how are we going to perceive or rate these?

Take hypothetically GTA VI for example, if you throw in photo realism, real time lighting, physics, audio, AI.. wouldn't there be a blurred line between reality and simulation. Would devs have to dumb it down some how? What would the ratings be like from say PEGI? Just food for thought I guess but worth a discussion I figured.
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Isn't there a point where CGI gets too close to reality and the human brain rejects it? That's why we get creeped out by some things. I read this a while back (a couple of years) so can't source it sorry. I think it's a very real thing in the movie industry with motion capture and the like. Think Grand Moff Tarkin in Rogue One. Amazing to watch but something just a little off that distracts you from the scene.
 
jimma47 said:
Isn't there a point where CGI gets too close to reality and the human brain rejects it? That's why we get creeped out by some things. I read this a while back (a couple of years) so can't source it sorry. I think it's a very real thing in the movie industry with motion capture and the like. Think Grand Moff Tarkin in Rogue One. Amazing to watch but something just a little off that distracts you from the scene.
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Yeah it's called uncanny valley.

To be honest it would never be like a simulation because in GTA VI for example, you wouldn't be able to realistically do 99% of the stuff you can do if was simulated.

Look at the latest UFC game, it almost feels like a simulation compared to what we've had in the past.
 
So a girl I work with cheated on her fiance simply because she could, They split and she eventually went out with someone new, I told her -

"Contrary to what Hollywood has programmed you with, People do not change, You will do it again and again and again, The nicest thing you can do is stay away from people"

Anyway she said -

"I have changed you're just a negative narrow minded person"

Which I'm not I'm a realist and don't lie to myself to give myself warm fuzzy feelings.

Anyway the man she's with now... she cheated on him.

Walked passed her in work today, Just gave a smirk and didn't say a thing #winning :D

Just thought it was too funny not to share ^_^
 
NeverBackDown said:
That's why the saying Bros before hoes has never been more true in the past 20 years
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Indeed, It's why I generally stay away from women now, Since I made that choice I have had zero stress, No one creating drama, No rumour spreading, Nothing, It's good to be able to go out with some of the guys from work and just have a beer and talk shop with zero drama machines nearby.
 
You're right, though. If you have the ability to cheat on some one and chit on their feelings then of course you will do it again.

It's an ability, same with murder.
 
AlienALX said:
You're right, though. If you have the ability to cheat on some one and chit on their feelings then of course you will do it again.

It's an ability, same with murder.
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Yep, It's why I stay away from women, Obviously not every woman is the same but I don't want to take the chance, I have a very cosy life, No stress or drama and I want to keep it that way.
 
Dicehunter said:
Yep, It's why I stay away from women, Obviously not every woman is the same but I don't want to take the chance, I have a very cosy life, No stress or drama and I want to keep it that way.
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Sad to hear bud. I'm just grateful I found a women before all this contemporary culture went to crap.
 
My little brothers band in Germany, Nothing big but good to listen to while training, Kind of punky/metal.

Band Name: Dancing Bears with Broken Legs
Album Name: Once I Was an EP, Then I Took an Arrow in My Knee.

 
You can tell Nvidia are desperate to get good press for their £1100 2080 Ti as even YouTube channels with less than 100K subs have been sent them ^_^
 
Just want to extend my heartfelt thanks to those few that did my survey for my final Uni project.

I've submitted it today and I can finally start looking forward to getting a new career and sorting my adult life. Once I've got my Cisco, Microsoft and VMWare certs..

Copious amounts of beer will be drunk tonight :lol:
 
For anybody who has played the Witcher 3 and wants to play again, try this First Person mod. It will really change the way you view the world. Being able to play as if you were Geralt. (Can be turned off/on at will)

Combat will be harder but there is an option to stop combat while in first person mode so you can still enjoy your stroll through the woods:)
Link to Nexus download: https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/1862
 
Kamikaze is the best Em album in forever, and Killshot is just astounding. Got the whole lot on repeat haha.
 
Dicehunter said:
So a girl I work with cheated on her fiance simply because she could, They split and she eventually went out with someone new, I told her -

"Contrary to what Hollywood has programmed you with, People do not change, You will do it again and again and again, The nicest thing you can do is stay away from people"

Anyway she said -

"I have changed you're just a negative narrow minded person"

Which I'm not I'm a realist and don't lie to myself to give myself warm fuzzy feelings.

Anyway the man she's with now... she cheated on him.

Walked passed her in work today, Just gave a smirk and didn't say a thing #winning :D

Just thought it was too funny not to share ^_^
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Damn dude... I feel very sorry for that fiance. She seems like the type of girl who a very little minority would pick.
 
Dawelio said:
Damn dude... I feel very sorry for that fiance. She seems like the type of girl who a very little minority would pick.
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Trouble is girls like that don't tell you they like to sleep around behind your back when you go out with them so it's hard to check.

On a side note I was talking to a friend of mine who works for Intel over in Israel, He's an intern nothing high up or anything, Anyway we were talking about the prices of Nvidia's card and he had quite a good theory.

With sane people looking at the cards like the Strix 2080 Ti for £1500 and saying "Hell no" this could be the final kick many needed to switch over to AMD, so here's hoping AMD come out with something decent and priced nicely, It may be the kick in the pants Nvidia needs otherwise they are going to lose a lot of custom from the people who were happy to pay £700 for a GPU to AMD.
 
tinytomlogan said:
When you see the reflections and real time ray tracing live for the first time.....


WOW
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No doubt it's very pretty but I'll wait for a pre-owned 2080 Ti this time next year for half the price, Gonna stay 1 gen behind from now on, Doesn't make financial sense to be on the bleeding edge all the time anymore for me personally.
 
Dicehunter said:
No doubt it's very pretty but I'll wait for a pre-owned 2080 Ti this time next year for half the price, Gonna stay 1 gen behind from now on, Doesn't make financial sense to be on the bleeding edge all the time anymore for me personally.
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I'm with you on that dice , although it's nice to have the latest gen card and it is obviously impressive , the cost is just too much for me
 
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