Rx 570 or 580?

[JoJo-JCLDJB]

It's official.
I will buy an Rx 500 series GPU at the end of the month.

My budget is £200 but I am willing to stretch a bit to get a reliable brand.

Thing is...I don't know what to go for and could really use some advice please.

I currently have been been surviving with an:
A8-7650K
2133mhz 2x8gb RAM (overclocked from stock 1600mhz)

I may get a chance to give away this APU and put the highest clocking CPU that'll fit my fm2+ socket (at not extra cost... straight swap)

MSI A68HM-E33 V2 motherboard.
CX600 psu ready to go.

But which Rx GPU should I buy?

My goal is by end of 2018 latest have a Ryzen PC then buy a double of whichever Rx 500 series GPU I buy right now and go crossfire...

So I was thinking going full out Rx 580 8Gb to be prepared for the future..but considering my lackluster apu or even athlon x4 860 I'm likely to swap it with.. The APU/CPU will still be my bottleneck.

Would you recommend a full on rx580 8Gb? Just go for the best I can get?

Or is an Rx 570 8Gb or even 4Gb all I should even be considering right now...
AND should I then do a full ryzen upgradable with vega in 2018 and scrap this current GPU I'm going to get, by then?

At the moment I'm playing full on RTS games..and I'm fine with 1080p..I play all Total War series games and a few horrors or shooters..but I'm not too FPS apart from the new Unreal Tournament as a stress buster..haha!

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on my current predicament.

What would you do with my current, yet slightly flexible budget..considering my thoughts on my future planning..


Any upgrade gpu-wise would be a plus from what I'm currently on.. I know..

Oh and I do 3d modelling and animation too. Which I can say the AMD APU I currently have, handles things pretty well...all things considering.

Thanks for reading, hope I get a reply and your suggestions.

 

[NeverBackDown]

If you are buying Vega you mine as well just save up and skip the 580 and put that money towards a better Vega GPU.

As for Ryzen, I'd get no less than a 1600 since you are doing some modeling work.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

Vega might be wasted at 1080p with RTS games. A single RX 580 8GB would do nicely with a Ryzen R5 1600 CPU. Vega 11 is so foreign at the moment that we don't know what it's supposed to compete against. Is it aimed to be a 1070 beater? 1080 beater while Vega 10 is aimed at beating 1080ti? We just don't know. If you game at 1080p then I don't think waiting for Vega is entirely necessary. We already have very good 1080p cards from both Nvidia and AMD.

 

[JoJo-JCLDJB]

Thanks for replies folks.

RX 580 8Gb it will be for now then & upgrade to Ryzen in the distant future.

Just need to find one that is priced under £250 and not overpriced like some of the £300+ ones (ridiculous imo).

Still...will seem quite a boost from my current, stressed, APU.

Thanks again!

 

[JoJo-JCLDJB]

It's official!
Tomorrow I am ordering the:
AMD rx580 8gb Sapphire Nitro+
After almost 1 year with my APU, the time has come.
Wondering what kind of OCs some of you have reached with this card?
1500mhz fairly reasonable?

 

[JoJo-JCLDJB]

Rx580 8Gb Sapphire Nitro+

It's official!
Tomorrow I am ordering the:
AMD rx580 8gb Sapphire Nitro+
After almost 1 year with my APU, the time has come.
Wondering what kind of OCs some of you have reached with this card?
1500mhz fairly reasonable?

 

[Reloaded2]

It's official!
Tomorrow I am ordering the:
AMD rx580 8gb Sapphire Nitro+
After almost 1 year with my APU, the time has come.
Wondering what kind of OCs some of you have reached with this card?
1500mhz fairly reasonable?

No I wouldn't say 1500mhz is reasonable. If you can get 1450 then run that as an every OC. Very limited amount of cards including my XFX 480 can run at 1500 and even then its risky running that long term.

 

[NeverBackDown]

It's official!
Tomorrow I am ordering the:
AMD rx580 8gb Sapphire Nitro+
After almost 1 year with my APU, the time has come.
Wondering what kind of OCs some of you have reached with this card?
1500mhz fairly reasonable?

You can probably hit 1500mhz but it probably won't be 100% stable. I'd suspect 1475 as a max stable clock. Unless you bought the Limited Edition Nitro card, which is binned, then I don't think many cards will hit that high.

 

[JoJo-JCLDJB]

Thanks for replies. I will be honest. I am so happy the way it runs super quiet at stock.
1411mhz I believe.

I did have issues with AMD A8-7650K CPU bottleneck get my GPU.
However after tweaking the settings such as:
Turning off HPET in the BIOS
Increasing the PCI-E Latency Timer to 128bits which was left on auto 32bits (this is what made the biggest difference).
I can now run all my games with no lag or stutter between either 1080p and 1440p at ultra settings getting 60fps solid.
Including titles such as Total War: Warhammer.

I guess I will save the overclocking for when I get a Ryzen system to put this card in and try to make the move to permanent 1440p on all games and 4k in some.

So happy with this purchase and would highly recommend this card for anyone on limited budget/who cannot afford a gtx 1070.

Thanks again for replies. I will at some point post an unigine superposition benchmarks with an overclock in good time.
Cheers!