Radiator space needed for GTX 780 and new haswell i7 variant "k"

[jam3s121]

I am having some conflicting advice on another forum regarding how much radiator space is needed for a set up I'm going to do

The loop currently as planned will be
intel i7 haswell chip "k" variant overclocked to 4.5ghz or so if possible
gtx 780 with slight overclock

I was planning on using a rx360 but people on another forum are telling me to add a 360 rad + 240 rad.. but I saw a timetolivecustoms video of tom logan using a rx360 rad with a 2011 intel cpu and titan chip.. wouldn't a 2011 cpu use more heat then the new haswell chips coming out?

The pump was going to be a swiftech mcb655-b, and xspc raystorm and xspc titan blocks.

thanks for any advice.

 

[NickOmega]

Here's an older TTL youtube vid of an RX360 kit, where he pretty much says that the RX360 is perfectly capable of cooling a CPU and GPU. It's a D5 Vario pump that he's using in that kit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cseLyQzK_7I

 

[airdeano]

currently there are no "solid" numbers to rely on for haswell and overclocking.
temps are just speculation and you'll have to wait till the first of the month for TTL
review on haswell CPU and overclocking.

i'd figure a RX/UT60/SR1 360 for a single CPU and GPU should suffice, but that's
a guess with no real facts at this time to support it.

how do you know 4.5GHz will do what you need it to do?
you'll have to wait for all to wonder about the "heating" of haswell.

 

[jam3s121]

yeah, I just figured it would probably be slightly under socket 2011 heat but I know I will need to see.

This is going to be my first w/c loop and i just don't want to overcomplicate thigns with extra radiators if not needed. I don't know if 4.5ghz will even be hard on haswell yet.. heh i just know my i7 950 (bloomfield) runs great a 4.2ghz but its starting to age and i want the full sata 3 speed for my ssd that I currently don't get. I do a lot of movie rendering and the overclocks help a lot.

I'm looking at moving into a caselabs case too, hopefully a gigabyte sniper z87 that i may add to the loop

 

[NeverBackDown]

currently there are no "solid" numbers to rely on for haswell and overclocking.
temps are just speculation and you'll have to wait till the first of the month for TTL
review on haswell CPU and overclocking.

i'd figure a RX/UT60/SR1 360 for a single CPU and GPU should suffice, but that's
a guess with no real facts at this time to support it.

how do you know 4.5GHz will do what you need it to do?
you'll have to wait for all to wonder about the "heating" of haswell.

Can't get much better than that. Know one knows so we got to wait and see what the future holds for us.

 

[airdeano]

now that Tom's dealt some overclocking to the new platform, i see that some
serious cooling will be needed, as well as time to sort out "exactly" where this new
platform heat range wants to be.

when Tom belted out 4.6GHz and temps were 80°+ that's a lil heater. and then
went on the 5.0GHz (with more ability), but the heat constraints are enormous!

1x 240x 60 looks to be a minimum just for the CPU (over a H100 240x 25) to
keep a 60° loaded temperature might be the new radiator of choice for haswell to
keep from burning up from heat.

so i'd wait for exact outcomes before buying anything(!).

 

[NeverBackDown]

Maybe even a 360rad just to get the fans to run on 7volts. Haswell loves energy saving but loves dumping heat. Ironic? Lol

 

[jam3s121]

Yeah, I have a few weeks til I have all the cash anyway. I'm not opposted to multiple radiators this is going to be my first loop though i wanted to make it as easy as possible.

In terms of pumps is something like this enough? http://www.swiftech.com/mcp35x12vdcpump.aspx#tab4

 

[airdeano]

so what is the case this build is going into. this will also have a lot of bearing on
cooling approach, too.

 

[jam3s121]

Either a caselabs sm8 or sm5 depending on if i get the matx sniper or full atx one haven't decieded yet. I know doing multiple rads will be easy to fit just want to make it as easy as possible to install. I am trying to figure out the pump situtation right now.

 

[NeverBackDown]

I would be more worried about draining and uninstalling than installing tbh.

 

[jam3s121]

is a pump+res combo like this sufficent? http://www.swiftech.com/mcp35x12vdcpump.aspx#tab4

is that pump good enough ? the one i linked?

 

[NeverBackDown]

is that pump good enough ? the one i linked?

That pump and D5s are the best on the market last i recall.

 

[airdeano]

I am trying to figure out the pump situtation right now.

that's the minimum of your worries, mate.. pump is like number 7 on the list.
you are jumping around and not getting anywhere..

first is viable system candidate
system build and components

second is heat (thermal control) radiator
what is going cool-down XX°

third is CPU/GPU block support
are there water blocks for said devices

fourth is fan usage and noise-level tolerances
do the fans make sense in usage and in low noise emission

fifth is case to hold radiator support
are you going to come up short on space with planned radiators?

sixth hose routing
how much tubing and how will it look plan

seventh would be pump
to tie it all together with proper tubing runs and noise

eighth reservoir
bay reservoir or tube reservoir will need consideration on space in case

ninth fittings and adapters
mock plans of tubing will allow minimal shipping charges

tenth would be coolant
is it compatible with tubing choice

 

[jam3s121]

I have most of that covered...
i7 4770k with a ek supremacy nickel plexi block
gtx 780 with a ek block
gigabyte z87 sniper or m5
all in a caselabs sm8 case which will fit two radiators easily..

considering one 360 radiator at the top and a 240 in the front of a sm8

already have 6 gt ap 15 fans..

just didn't know what tube res and pump to go with.. i am unware of if the more expensive pumps from swiftech are needed for the gpu and cpu.