AngryGoldfish
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That's excellent to hear. I imagine the 7nm GPU this year will be Vega 20 Pro or whatever it's going to be called. Still, that could be a sign of what's to come from Radeon, and even Zen 2.
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WYP
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AMD revealed 7nm Vega earlier this year, which was always planned for a 2018 launch. It is targeted at machine learning, not gaming. Not sure we will see 7nm Vega on the gaming side.
Not new information. 7nm GPU this year does not mean Navi. 7nm Vega will release to the machine learning market first.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
No. Nothing was confirmed for this year. Nobody knows what AMDs plans are. You are just assuming a lot here. You forget Lisa said they are open to releasing in all markets. Considering AI and ML are the way forward as they are the biggest and most lucrative markets it makes sense to bring it to games as well. It was always going to happen. Just look at Turing. Nobody expected it to have Tensor cores. Everybody said Volta won't be coming because it has HPC functionality. They were wong.
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WYP
News Guru
Ok, from AMD's own Q2 2018 financial results, as released on June 25th, 2018.
Yeah, nothing was confirmed for this year... "planned to launch later in 2018" isn't a clear indication at all.
AMD can easily release a gaming version of 7nm Vega, the question is whether or not it is worth it for them in 2018. It all depends on how soon Navi is, which is unknowable outside of AMD.
As for Volta, the Titan V isn't exactly a consumer-oriented product. Volta won't see a consumer GTX-grade gaming release. Nvidia has moved on.
As for Turing, Wraith can probably tell you how many times I told him that I expected Tensor cores in future Nvidia gaming cards on Discord. Ever since GDC 2018 we have known that Nvidia could use them for de-noising ray-traced images. There is a reason why Volta was used for early RTX demos instead of Pascal, despite the fact that Volta lacks RT cores.
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AngryGoldfish
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"AMD’s next major milestone is the introduction of our upcoming 7nm product portfolio, including the initial products with our second generation “Zen 2” CPU core and our new “Navi” GPU architecture. We have already taped out multiple 7nm products at TSMC, including our first 7nm GPU planned to launch later this year and our first 7nm server CPU that we plan to launch in 2019."
That reads to me like it could be Navi OR Vega. The article never mentions Vega, but the part in bold suggests the first 7nm GPU—which we know is Vega because we've already seen that demoed—will be Vega 20 since it's the only 7nm GPU that's announced as being 'functional'.
Survivor victim of the jacksonville shooting is suing EA for negligence.
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edit* seems there are multiple parties all prepping to do the same.
Also Kitguru has an article with proposed leaked benchmarks for 2080ti in games
https://www.kitguru.net/components/...k-leak-shows-rtx-2080ti-performance-in-games/ interesting results if true. Yet.. very disappointing. With that said. I doubt they are legit. Battlefield V shows yet has the BETA even been released?
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edit* seems there are multiple parties all prepping to do the same.
Also Kitguru has an article with proposed leaked benchmarks for 2080ti in games
https://www.kitguru.net/components/...k-leak-shows-rtx-2080ti-performance-in-games/ interesting results if true. Yet.. very disappointing. With that said. I doubt they are legit. Battlefield V shows yet has the BETA even been released?
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Dicehunter
Resident Newb
Nothing but a cash grab by opportunists, It's not the publishers fault that a psychopath was at the venue.
AlienALX
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https://wccftech.com/exclusive-amd-navi-gpu-roadmap-cost-zen/
Excellent article there. They reckon Navi is for the PS5..
Excellent article there. They reckon Navi is for the PS5..
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Yeah, I'm not sure how EA are responsible for this, to the point of calling them negligent and suing them for it. It's basically saying it's their fault. That's highly accusatory and damning. There will be murder or crimes with or without higher security from event organisers. The escalation theory would start to take effect, where if there were multiple security cards at the doors, the gunman might find a vantage point instead. It's why I think the argument that giving everyone guns would protect them from mass shootings is like giving a paracetamol to a patient with a tumour. It's a pointless escapade because murderers will find other means to commit their crimes. The problem will always be there until you get to the root of it, which is the human condition. Not tighter security, not guns, not bullet proof glass.
I think the Lawsuit is aimed at both EA and the venue owners for lack of proper security.
Or it's being aimed by people that want to get paid for being traumatized, because they're materialistic, shallow, and weak. You can't prevent stuff like this, and you never WILL be able to do so. But you sure as hell can sue and get PAID, especially in North America, where everything is someone else's fault.
TheF34RChannel
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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 reviews on September 17th
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-reviews-go-live-on-september-17th
Boo Nvidia, boo!!
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-reviews-go-live-on-september-17th
Boo Nvidia, boo!!
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Yeah, that makes sense. The custom gaming market is too Nvidia-dominated to be profitable when you have other segments that are more profitable. Vega proved you can't please everyone with the same architecture. Navi is likely to be the same.
I never bought Vega on 7nm for gaming. By the time 7nm manufacturing is available with enough supply at the right price, Vega would no longer be competitive because Nvidia will have jumped aboard 7nm and Navi will be on the horizon, even if only for certain markets. But 7nm Vega for the professional market makes far more sense. Production costs will be lower but retail prices could remain high. Performance will go up in a market where Vega was already quite competitive, thus making them competitive. I suspect investors are also more interested in those markets over gaming.
looz
Active member
Saw this on reddit:
Metro Exodus RTX demo ran at 1080p 40FPS on RTX 2080 Ti
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/63052/metro-exodus-rtx-demo-ran-1080p-40fps-2080-ti/index.html
4A Games was running two separate demos of Metro Exodus; one on the GeForce GTX 1080 Ti running at 4K with "largely pleasant liquid frame rates" says PCGamesHardware, while the RTX demo was running at 1080p on the next-gen GeForce RTX 2080 Ti and was "still just playable".
Metro Exodus RTX demo ran at 1080p 40FPS on RTX 2080 Ti
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/63052/metro-exodus-rtx-demo-ran-1080p-40fps-2080-ti/index.html
4A Games was running two separate demos of Metro Exodus; one on the GeForce GTX 1080 Ti running at 4K with "largely pleasant liquid frame rates" says PCGamesHardware, while the RTX demo was running at 1080p on the next-gen GeForce RTX 2080 Ti and was "still just playable".
TheF34RChannel
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And their point is, what...?
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
I don't think there is any point to these rumours. It's all so speculative and everyone is so keen to see performance metrics that any news is news. Get 'dem hits, yo.
AlienALX
Well-known member
That we should be excited because it manages 40 FPS @1080p.
Let's see how many 144hz fanboyz take this news.
"But I can't play games at 60 FPS whine whinge"
TheF34RChannel
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Compared to not being able to even run it on all current hardware it's impressive and we're on the brink of this new tech, it'll take many more generations to have it better. Somehow so many are expecting it magically runs at 500 FPS
this is why I don't care about RT 
I don't want to run that res at that FPS.Similar threads
