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Intel do make premium products, but premium is just a buzz word if the pricing is so off the mark. You can't excuse a company's anti-consumer practises by claiming premium quality.
 
AngryGoldfish said:
Intel do make premium products, but premium is just a buzz word if the pricing is so off the mark. You can't excuse a company's anti-consumer practises by claiming premium quality.
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Like their premium Skylakes that were so thin they bent with a heavy cooler on.
 
NeverBackDown said:
https://www.google.com/amp/wccftech...d-die-shot-22-tflops-400gbs-8-16-gb-hbm2/amp/

So I guess this is an official high-level die view of the Vega architecture. Revealed today, don't know if this is a clickbait article from Wccftech. I didn't see a source
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It appears to be legit. Looks like AMD have announced the Radeon Pro (Vega) and the Radeon Pro 500 series.
Edit: I'm at work so can't dig much further but looks like the Radeon Pro 500 series info and press release is on AMDs website while the Radeon Pro Vega stuff is coming from Apples website.
 
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AlienALX said:
Like their premium Skylakes that were so thin they bent with a heavy cooler on.
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One or even two mishaps on a mainstream range does not necessarily preclude premium from one of their potential taglines, but it does certainly make it even harder to justify and it was hard enough as it was.
 
AngryGoldfish said:
One or even two mishaps on a mainstream range does not necessarily preclude premium from one of their potential taglines, but it does certainly make it even harder to justify and it was hard enough as it was.
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They're not premium products end of man. They're just CPUs, made as cheaply as possible.

Also makes me laugh about this latest "Look 18 cores ETC" AFAIK they have had 16 cored CPUs for about six years. They just decided we were not worthy, or, that they could charge the business sector stupid money for them. If I wanted to I could easily put a 12 core CPU in my X79 board.

I really can't wait for Threadripper to land. Intel's golden goose is about to be smashed to bits. Read a good article this morning about how TR has all of the lanes on all of the CPUs, even the "cheap" ones. Said about how high end users who wanted say a pair of 1080Ti would always have to go to Intel for lanes. And then they would have to go to the expensive Intel (5930k over the 5820k for example) to get those lanes. Said what a con it was (not in those words but yeah..) and then said how TR will turn all of that on its head.

If I were Intel though I would not be worried about what TR is going to do to the gaming sector. They have been charging disproportionate amounts of money for locked, crappy slow CPUs (stupid stuff like 8 core 1.7ghz Ivy) for years now. AMD have had no Opteron because BD would have made a terrible Opteron chip so Intel have been lording it up in the business sector, charging whatever they feel like on that day.

Yeah, see that's about to change now..
 
AngryGoldfish said:
Intel do make premium products.
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Show me where in each Intel segment they have not made at least one premium product. Intel do not just make mainstream CPU's. As you know they have their toes in many different sectors. Within those sectors they make premium products. That's what I'm saying. Their 6700K with its buckling heatspreader, the 7700K with its overheating, the 6950X with its ridiculous price tag, the 5820K with its limited PCI-e lanes, no these are not what I consider premium products as a result of their avoidable flaws, but they are not the only thing Intel produces.
 
AlienALX said:
They're not premium products end of man. They're just CPUs, made as cheaply as possible.

Also makes me laugh about this latest "Look 18 cores ETC" AFAIK they have had 16 cored CPUs for about six years. They just decided we were not worthy, or, that they could charge the business sector stupid money for them. If I wanted to I could easily put a 12 core CPU in my X79 board.
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They've had 40+ cores for years lol.
 
SPS said:
They've had 40+ cores for years lol.
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Yeah I was being a little tentative because I hadn't spent an hour looking at the ARK. But yeah, exactly dude.

The F34R Channel said:
Why do we have heated discussions about CPU and GPU companies but not RAM, for example? Is it because of the number of players?
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Because RAM is meh. Unless you are a completely anal person 3000mhz memory is 3000 memory. It all does the same sort of thing and all costs pretty much the same money for the same amount.

It's all standard too, so there is no Geforce VS Radeon for example. But hey, give people something go show off with and RAM can be pretty cool (gives Corsair a clap for the Dominator branding).
 
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The F34R Channel said:
Why do we have heated discussions about CPU and GPU companies but not RAM, for example? Is it because of the number of players?
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Because people likes to complain :D The crappy TIM have been pointed out 1000s of times.
Again, in my book they are both tossers. They keep making it look like we need to buy their products. Complain about one manufacturer because i can only hit 4,7 GHz because of the TIM, but the CPU from the other manufacturer cant even hit 4 GHz because of its design. I dont get it :p

I'm not a Intel fanboy, but there are a lot of AMD fanboys on this forum :intelwar:
If i needed a new CPU right now i would get a 1700, no questions asked.
But i don't, and that's kind of my point. ;) 3-4 year old CPUs is still good enough for most people.

And for the TIM. IMO, if you don't overclock the Intel TIM is the best solution.
But OC terminology have creeped into peoples minds, and higher temp = Dead CPU in the long run. But if you don't put in extra volts. and stay below 105c i don't believe there will be a problem for 99,9% of users.

And if you OC. I'm a low noise guy. i have hit 4,4GHz on my 4670k and currently 4,5GHz on my 4790k on stock volts. And the temps are fine, on a H100i with ML120 with custom fan profile. (used to be SP120 quiet edition)
(I haven't tried to stress my new (used) CPU yet, as i'm finishing my Thesis, and don't want to risk a crash when i'm writing)

Long story short. You are gonna hit a limit at some point, but is that the manufacturers problem? It works as they intend it to. And when you hit the limit, Intel TIM is more safe to delid = Win - Win :D

Its like the EVGA VRM problems. People assume its a temp problem, but its not. But the manufacturer still needs to solve a problem that's not even there :eek:
 
Korreborg said:
I'm not a Intel fanboy, but there are a lot of AMD fanboys on this forum :intelwar:
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We definitely do not have amd fanboys. Stop trying to call people out. Most people here don't even use AMD.

Guys this is not a thread for lengthy discussion, this is quick news. We need to take it somewhere else
 
AlienALX said:
We certainly won't if you go around calling people fanboys.
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I felt this was sent my way "Customers will go out of their way to defend multi billion dollar companies that have no clue they exist."
So i sendt something back ;) But you are apparently putting more into the word fanboy than i am :huh:
 
Korreborg said:
I felt this was sent my way "Customers will go out of their way to defend multi billion dollar companies that have no clue they exist."
So i sendt something back ;) But you are apparently putting more into the word fanboy than i am :huh:
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Are you 12?
 
AlienALX said:
Are you 12?
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? Are you 92? Its one word said in a forum. Its not the justice system.
We have an exchange of opinions and i try to use smilies so people can se that things are said with a glimpse in the eye. But in my eyes, it seems that you take it a bit personal :stickpoke: :D

I will leave it here. If you want to dissus it any more, then make a new thread, and i will be more than happy to discus it :cool::D;):p (By the way i'm 32 :rock:)
 
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/what-the-teams-are-working-on-07-06-17/

Big info drop on Total War Warhammer and Historical.
Basically, they are releasing 3 more dlc, one free, for Warhammer 1 before 2 arrives. The DLC is going to be a race pack with special campaign effects similar to how Bretonnia has a unique peasant effect. Alongside this dlc we are getting FLC as well. So 2 different FLC and one dlc

The historical titles have a huge announcement. 3 different teams are working on 3 different contents for History titles. The biggest and obvious team would be the team working on the next Major Historical title in the series. Another team just working on DLC, major Campaign pack DLC for a recent history title. Most likely Attila. Here is a sneak peak of it.
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And Finally CA is working on a character based title, similar to how Napoleon and Attila are character based. Fall of the Samurai is a good example of how the new content will work. They've done some of this era before but haven't done it justice yet. This release comes before the next Major Historical title.
 
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