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AMD Ryzen 16 Core Threadripper CPUs & Whitehaven Platform To Launch On Monstrous 4094 Pin Socket In June

"AMD’s upcoming enthusiast 16 core Ryzen “Threadripper” CPUs and the next generation high-end “Whitehaven” platform will reportedly launch on a monstrous 4094 pin socket shared with AMD’s 32 core Naples parts. The brand new enthusiast Threadripper Ryzen lineup and Whitehaven platform will debut at Computex at the beginning of next month."

Source: http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-16-core-threadripper-whitehaven-4094-socket/

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That is one big chip!!! As big as my living room :p
 
If the rumors are true, it does not quite make sense to me.
Why 1070-1080 performance a year down the road. And at the same price???
 
Dicehunter said:
More rumors are coming out that the top end single GPU Vega, The "RX-Nova" will cost $599 and be competing against the 1080 Ti.

Bringing a GPU out that costs $599 that is only 1070 power would be suicide.

https://www.eteknix.com/full-amd-ve...l&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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TBH this whole "Vega has GTX 1070 performance" needs to stop, leaked benchmarks are notoriously unreliable and we simply cannot know how full-fat Vega will perform until we all see it for ourselves in the hands of proper reviewers with the latest drivers over a wide range of games.

Recent reports are clocking full Vega at 1500-1600MHz, which is a 50+% improvement over the R9 Fury X, nevermind the other changes under the hood. It has been a long time since the Fury launched, so this is expected, though the question is how will the GTX 1080 Ti fit into all of this.

The rumour here of these prices came from Reddit from a no name user who later had his post deleted the post (either by himself or the subreddits moderator team). It seems like nothing more than guesswork with the statement "I have a friend at AMD" with no further proof. Very unreliable rumour there.
 
WYP said:
TBH this whole "Vega has GTX 1070 performance" needs to stop, leaked benchmarks are notoriously unreliable and we simply cannot know how full-fat Vega will perform until we all see it for ourselves in the hands of proper reviewers with the latest drivers over a wide range of games.

Recent reports are clocking full Vega at 1500-1600MHz, which is a 50+% improvement over the R9 Fury X, nevermind the other changes under the hood. It has been a long time since the Fury launched, so this is expected, though the question is how will the GTX 1080 Ti fit into all of this.

The rumour here of these prices came from Reddit from a no name user who later had his post deleted the post (either by himself or the subreddits moderator team). It seems like nothing more than guesswork with the statement "I have a friend at AMD" with no further proof. Very unreliable rumour there.
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Yep, Also the fact that in the tests you have done for various games the Fury X is on the heels of the 1070 and in some like Warhammer DoW3 it's on the heels of a 1080, Would make little sense to bring out a card that then is dead on 1070 performance.
 
WYP said:
TBH this whole "Vega has GTX 1070 performance" needs to stop, leaked benchmarks are notoriously unreliable and we simply cannot know how full-fat Vega will perform until we all see it for ourselves in the hands of proper reviewers with the latest drivers over a wide range of games.
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Agreed. Plus a lot of these leaks are done using engineering samples anyway.
I do hope they release different models to compete against the 1070 - 1080Ti to give people more choice. I would love to put a Vega card alongside my 1700X but I can't afford one at around £600 right now but for one around £400 is more in my reach
 
WYP said:
TBH this whole "Vega has GTX 1070 performance" needs to stop, leaked benchmarks are notoriously unreliable and we simply cannot know how full-fat Vega will perform until we all see it for ourselves in the hands of proper reviewers with the latest drivers over a wide range of games.

Recent reports are clocking full Vega at 1500-1600MHz, which is a 50+% improvement over the R9 Fury X, nevermind the other changes under the hood. It has been a long time since the Fury launched, so this is expected, though the question is how will the GTX 1080 Ti fit into all of this.

The rumour here of these prices came from Reddit from a no name user who later had his post deleted the post (either by himself or the subreddits moderator team). It seems like nothing more than guesswork with the statement "I have a friend at AMD" with no further proof. Very unreliable rumour there.
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The problem is until AMD show their cards that is exactly what to expect. Why? because as of yet (until today with the 16gb rumour) that is what we have seen in all of the leaks so far.

As of now we have absolutely no idea if there are three Vegas, no idea how fast they will be and so on. All we have are a couple of benchmarks pointed to the expected performance we've been shown which is around the 1070.

Maybe it's drivers? maybe there are three SKUs? maybe, maybe, maybe.

So until release (and more importantly review) day people can say what they like.

You can also bet your hat that they will be pants for overclocking and because AMD are on the back foot will be clocked to their limits to try and compete. Not that it's a bad thing of course.

I'm also ignoring the prices that have been "leaked". Mostly because they are too high. If the 1070 card comes in around the same price what's the point? for me any way? I've already got that much performance and I paid that much for it two chuffing years ago !!
 
AlienALX said:
The problem is until AMD show their cards that is exactly what to expect. Why? because as of yet (until today with the 16gb rumour) that is what we have seen in all of the leaks so far.

As of now we have absolutely no idea if there are three Vegas, no idea how fast they will be and so on. All we have are a couple of benchmarks pointed to the expected performance we've been shown which is around the 1070.

Maybe it's drivers? maybe there are three SKUs? maybe, maybe, maybe.

So until release (and more importantly review) day people can say what they like.

You can also bet your hat that they will be pants for overclocking and because AMD are on the back foot will be clocked to their limits to try and compete. Not that it's a bad thing of course.

I'm also ignoring the prices that have been "leaked". Mostly because they are too high. If the 1070 card comes in around the same price what's the point? for me any way? I've already got that much performance and I paid that much for it two chuffing years ago !!
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Except the 1080 beating Doom benchmark we saw five months ago by AMD themselves. Apart from that we no evidence at all. ;)

I really don't understand why you keep insisting we should not be expecting anything more than 1070 performance. It betrays all logic to release a card that only competes there. We are so close to the release now that whatever leaks we see are likely to be at least close to the truth. I have no reason AT ALL to believe there won't be at least two chips to choose from with performance levels varying between 1070 and 1080Ti. I think you're being a doom-bringer (pun intended) just for the sake of it, just to shake the foundation and cool the hype. I see through your shenanigans!


On a different note, AMD's Ryzen 9 chips are looking incredible if they're true. A 10-core 3.7Ghz chip with quad channel 3200Mhz memory would be absolutely amazing. If they can release it at around €650, that would be insane. Gone will be the days of Intel's prohibitively priced HEDT range. We'll finally have something that perfectly marriages enthusiast gaming and productivity. Even Ryzen 5 and 7 are doing that now.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-might-launch-at-least-nine-high-end-ryzen-9-processors.html
 
I don't count Doom. It's one game using a totally different API. Now if more games come along and use Vulkan then cool, but my Fury X already maxes it out no sweat.

So yeah, that's totally cherry picking and kinda lame on AMD's part.

Yup Ryzen 9 will combat the I9. I knew Intel would pull that naming scheme if AMD ever gave them reason to.

It's very funny too really. Usually AMD are like miles behind Nvidia so always get their throat cut. IE - Nvidia will have something stashed ready to beat them on day one. This time around it's AMD holding back their tech waiting on Intel lol. So as soon as Intel release the I9 along with its stupid price AMD release Ryzen 9 as a smack in the cahoonies :D
 
AlienALX said:
I don't count Doom. It's one game using a totally different API. Now if more games come along and use Vulkan then cool, but my Fury X already maxes it out no sweat.

So yeah, that's totally cherry picking and kinda lame on AMD's part.

Yup Ryzen 9 will combat the I9. I knew Intel would pull that naming scheme if AMD ever gave them reason to.

It's very funny too really. Usually AMD are like miles behind Nvidia so always get their throat cut. IE - Nvidia will have something stashed ready to beat them on day one. This time around it's AMD holding back their tech waiting on Intel lol. So as soon as Intel release the I9 along with its stupid price AMD release Ryzen 9 as a smack in the cahoonies :D
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I don't see how you can exclude Doom any more than you can exclude any of the illegitimate leaks we've seen so far. If you discount Doom you should discount an unproven Time Spy leak since it's rarely indicative of final performance. That means we have nothing to go on. If we have nothing, we can speculate based on engineering common sense and basic economics. Even with AMD's meager relative budget, they still have a phenomenal team behind them, just like Nvidia, and time to work hard on bringing a good architecture to life. It's not like Nvidia can just throw money at the wall and what forms at the bottom is a 1080Ti. It makes economic sense to aim to beat their competitor at each segment. If they fall short in power, which is likely in the case of the 1080Ti, all they have to do is reduce the price accordingly and you have a winner. Even the Fury X at $600 would have been a solid purchase against the $650 980Ti, and the Fury X was an awkward card at an awkward time.

I'm tempted to go for the R7 1700 after seeing these new R9 specifications. The 1700 has dropped in price a little and it would be such a nice CPU. It depends on my final budget I guess and how much I can save over the next six months.
 
It's impossible to gauge how good Vega is using Doom. We already know that it runs better on AMD hardware, but we also know that Vega being a newer tech just how much better does it handle Vulkan? and that is why I don't count it. If you are only going to be playing Doom? fine, I guess it would be rather exciting. Hopefully the Quake game coming out with it will also be Vulkan. Again though, does nothing for me.

The 1700 is an amazing chip at an amazing price. And it will continue to be, given that CPUs are absolutely nothing like GPUs. Intel do not double performance every time they release a new tech like Nvidia do.

Even my 8 core Ivy @ 3.1ghz will benefit hugely from all of this. So much so I probably won't have to even touch it.
 
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