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Dicehunter said:
Very cool ray tracing benchmark only released a few days ago on Steam for free, Bright Memory Infinite, No support yet for non Nvidia cards but that may change with AMD's 6000 series.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1409670/Bright_Memory_Infinite_Ray_Tracing_Benchmark/
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Its going to be available for all cards. This is being developed by ONE single person. Insane how good it is. Bright memory became Bright memory infinite when it became successful. The dude quit his job to do this full time :)
 
based on the leaked 3070 image which showed a massive 172 successfully passed 3070 binned chips.. I dont doubt that shortage for 2021.

I know it was only one line, but a line thats supposed to put out 1000 a day, and only achieved 172. Yields must be bad. Maybe the article took it out of context to exaggerate but who knows given the prev launches
 
Warchild said:
based on the leaked 3070 image which showed a massive 172 successfully passed 3070 binned chips.. I dont doubt that shortage for 2021.

I know it was only one line, but a line thats supposed to put out 1000 a day, and only achieved 172. Yields must be bad. Maybe the article took it out of context to exaggerate but who knows given the prev launches
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If the 3000 series follows the lifespan of the 2000 series then there is zero rush to get one, People are best off waiting until Spring when supply lines improve.
 
Warchild said:
MSI need to be investigated themselves. That was such a "We got caught" response.
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Yep, but maybe they'll approach the investigators with "we'd prefer you didn't release these results to the public, we'll pay for your effort." :D
 
looz said:
Yep, but maybe they'll approach the investigators with "we'd prefer you didn't release these results to the public, we'll pay for your effort." :D
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Ok, usually I barely chuckle at most humor in posts. But that one made me laugh outright.
 
Don't expect to hear much on this. Msi has pretty much brought out all the reviewers and tech sites it deals with, including this one.
What will actually happen with this though if true (msi have already confirmed that it's their own subsidiary), nothing. Nvidia won't do anything as they're one of the top spending customers, no watchdog or bodies with authority will do anything to msi, perhaps the company in question but this is like trying to take out hackers in a f2p game, ban em and a new account is up doing the same thing 5 mins later. The media won't give them trial by fire as so many deal with msi and there shady "review" practices. Gn will hit this hard but not many other will so this will just get swept under the rug and forgotten.
 
demonking said:
Don't expect to hear much on this. Msi has pretty much brought out all the reviewers and tech sites it deals with, including this one.
What will actually happen with this though if true (msi have already confirmed that it's their own subsidiary), nothing. Nvidia won't do anything as they're one of the top spending customers, no watchdog or bodies with authority will do anything to msi, perhaps the company in question but this is like trying to take out hackers in a f2p game, ban em and a new account is up doing the same thing 5 mins later. The media won't give them trial by fire as so many deal with msi and there shady "review" practices. Gn will hit this hard but not many other will so this will just get swept under the rug and forgotten.
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I take offence to the assertation that this site is "bought out" by MSI. We do not get paid by companies for reviews and neither do we decide to not publish negative reviews for a fee.

That whole MSI notebook fiasco was limited to MSI's UK notebook division, which is separate from the other parts of MSI UK (there is a reason why they have two separate Twitter accounts).

We don't tend to deal with the notebook side of MSI, it has been years since we reviewed an MSI notebook.

I haven't watched the MSI video from GN, but I'm sure it paints a broader picture and throws all of MSI under the bus over a single rogue subdivision of MSI. I'm not saying what MSI Notebooks did wasn't atrocious, but you are making big claims by calling me paid off.
 
demonking said:
Don't expect to hear much on this. Msi has pretty much brought out all the reviewers and tech sites it deals with, including this one.
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Am I reading that correctly?


Are you saying that all the reviewers are bought and cannot be trusted when it comes to MSI Products?


I for one do not belive that Tom, or any other reputable reviewer would do that!
 
A couple of people have told MSI to get bent recently. We don't know of any one taking a back hander because none would admit it, but a British guy refused (Steve covered it on GN).

This is what happens when you introduce capitalism to China. It becomes very cut throat.

Bottom line? this is what their staff are told and forced to do. Intel used to do stuff like this all of the time, yet now they can't because they can't get away with it any more.

We used to get bribed like mad when we had Intel as our "daddy" BITD. What do you think ES were made for?

Unfortunately laws on practices like this in China are scant at best. So you can expect a lot of this going into the future. Nvidia will do nothing (even though Linus has ratted MSI) because again, this is money we are talking about here. They'll just do another "we're sorry" statement and y'all can eat a d**k.

However, accusing Mark (and or Tom) of it is out of order. I've never seen a bent MSI review on here (nor any other) nor have I seen evidence of them taking back handers to give crap products good reviews.

It's just capitalism getting in the way AGAIN. MSI generally make good products. Now the real, manly way of fixing your problems is to go back to the drawing board and make them better. Not start bunging out back handers to make negative things go away. But sadly that is the corrupt world we live in. Even Nvidia, who should be the most responsible are the worst. They can't even sell us a decent product based on its own merits it has to be in a bag of bulls**t.
 
If they genuinely offered underhand deals to a British person then they'd be well minded to do a little more than simply refuse, we have some of the strictest laws in the world on paid promotion and advertisement, you can't do that kind of stuff(Taking payments, free stuff, ect, even stuff like heavy airbrushing is illegal in UK advertising) in any UK video content, reviews or not, without very clearly stating it before hand, if there's implication MSI are enticing British citizens into breaking these laws then ASA would have a huge case on their hands. I ofc don't believe for one second OC3D would be implicated in that though.

Good Tom Scott vid quickly covering UK paid promotion laws and the historical reasons as to why Britains are so strict:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SyetdjWMuw
 
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