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So with a few registry mods within windows and a bios update plus AIO to cool it, You can get a pretty impressive graphics score with the Radeon 7.

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Source 1 - https://www.overclock.net/forum/67-amd/1633446-preliminary-view-amd-vega-bios-125.html#post27847568

Source 2 - https://imgur.com/a/ecbuxwY
 
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Modern high end GPUs need water to really shine. Been saying it for ages and have proof after having to live with my Devil 64 on air. It's a nightmare tbh.
 
I've been wanting to put my GPU under water for years but I can never justify the sheer cost of doing it custom.
I have eyed up the NZXT G12 but that doesn't support Vega64 at all and I don't have the materials or tools to do a mod job.
 
g0ggles1994 said:
I've been wanting to put my GPU under water for years but I can never justify the sheer cost of doing it custom.
I have eyed up the NZXT G12 but that doesn't support Vega64 at all and I don't have the materials or tools to do a mod job.
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For a long time some dude was making and selling the plates. But he vanished, along with a lot of other people's cash. Shame really.
 
https://www.vg247.com/2019/02/22/xbox-lockheart-anaconda-e3-2019-release-date/

Rumors of Xbox Two's working (Though not claimed to be final) specs apparently confirmed by a French language sites source(Though of course that's not really actually any kind of confirmation to any of us) but they seem reasonable enough (for not final or devkit specs, they don't seem amazingly well balanced though so I expect they'd have changed somewhat)
 
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tgrech said:
https://www.vg247.com/2019/02/22/xbox-lockheart-anaconda-e3-2019-release-date/

Rumors of Xbox Two's working (Though not claimed to be final) specs apparently confirmed by a French language sites source(Though of course that's not really actually any kind of confirmation to any of us) but they seem reasonable enough (for not final or devkit specs, they don't seem amazingly well balanced though so I expect they'd have changed somewhat)
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I did see these specs floating around a while ago. Not so sure about 1TB of NVME storage, though I could see devs doing great things if they could assume their storage was faster.

I could see consoles using an Optane game Cache before moving full SSD. That would be cool.
 
I'd assume the 1TB NVMe drives are for the devkits only, like how the Scorpio devkits had 1TB SSHDs, I guess SSHDs are quite common in consoles now and those would move to the consumer standard (Or similarly NVMe+2.5" HDD).
 
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I'd assume the 1TB NVMe drives are for the devkits only, like how the Scorpio devkits had 1TB SSHDs, I guess SSHDs are quite common in consoles now and those would move to the consumer standard (Or similarly NVMe+2.5" HDD).
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SSHDs are only really common to people who are tech savvy enough to upgrade their consoles to offer more storage. I don't know of any console that offers that by default.

The only way I see a console moving to an SSD is if they can use it to improve gameplay, which is definitely possible. Which would mean that all consoles would need to have them. Moving from an HDD to an SSD as main storage would be a huge add-on to a console's bill of materials.

I don't know, I can't see the next-gen consoles using SSDs unless the price of NAND decreases by a lot within the next year. Part of what makes consoles good is that they are as cheap as possible.

I can definitely see dev hardware having an SSD, just to speed things up and make development a little faster, but the final consoles. I'm not sure about that.
 
I've seen a few Xbox One SKU's with SSHD's since the original:

https://thenextweb.com/microsoft/20...e-elite-comes-with-sshd-and-elite-controller/

Though they are still uncommon, later Xbox360 models also had a few GB of integrated flash memory and such, you only need 8GB of flash to properly cache 1TB of data and get near SSD like boot speed ups so I don't see why not, you can get 120GB SSDs new for like £20 nowadays can't you, or I think the SSHD versions of laptop drives are a few pounds difference sometimes now.
 
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I've seen a few Xbox One SKU's with SSHD's since the original:

https://thenextweb.com/microsoft/20...e-elite-comes-with-sshd-and-elite-controller/

Though they are still uncommon, later Xbox360 models also had a few GB of integrated flash memory and such, you only need 8GB of flash to properly cache 1TB of data and get near SSD like boot speed ups so I don't see why not, you can get 120GB SSDs new for like £20 nowadays can't you, or I think the SSHD versions of laptop drives are a few pounds difference sometimes now.
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Oh wow. I have never seen that SKU. OG Xbox One + Elite controller. Cool.

It's more that while on drive caching is good, to improve things like asset streaming in games it would need to be reliable and have the right stuff in cache, even when you start playing a new game or one that hasn't been played in a while. That could be a tonne of writes on the NAND.

Just putting an SSHD will just improve load times, as devs have no way of knowing what is in the cache and will build for what they know, which is the speeds of the HDD.

If this topic is to continue I'd advise making a "Next Gen Console" speculation thread". Quick news isn't for long-form discussions.
 
Nah yeah I think that's reasonable, I just expect them to leave the option open (Have an M.2 slot or a bit of soldered flash), and occasionally maybe use it, but certainly aren't guaranteed to with such a volatile-y priced non essential part, especially on lower SKUs.
 
So the cooling block of the Radeon 7 isn't really flat and has some peaks that don't make proper contact with the GPU hence the high junction temps at stock settings which in turn causes high fan speeds and noise

A guy took the card apart, Took off the carbon TIM sheet, Lapped the cooling plate, First with 400, Then 800 and finally 2000 to get a mirror like finish, Added extra washers to the screw down points of the bracket and voila, 40'c temp drop at stock volts/clocks, That is 1 major booboo on AMD's part.

How much extra would it actually cost AMD to give each block an actual flat surface for better contact ?

Source - https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/arrxt2/radeon_vii_how_to_drop_40c_on_your_stock_cooler/

Pics - https://imgur.com/a/51C9V8V


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Do they know what benefit comes from just swapping the carbon pad for TIM? We know carbon pads are generally thicker and aren't expected to perform as well on average, but is this a particularly thick pad that was necessitated to make up for the shape too?
 
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Do they know what benefit comes from just swapping the carbon pad for TIM? We know carbon pads are generally thicker and aren't expected to perform as well on average, but is this a particularly thick pad that was necessitated to make up for the shape too?
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From the bits of info I've read it was a time saving thing, Would have taken a bit longer to get the correct TIM AND have a flat machined surface.
 
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