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Lip service. They are loving this mining craze as much as AMD are.

Actually can go either way. Many have been deterred from purchasing Nvidia because of mining pushing up pricing and instead gone over to AMD.

Also works the other way. Depends on supply and demand in your country I suppose. GPU in Norway now have been the most expensive I have ever seen. Even though they are available, paying £900 for a normal AIB 1080ti is ridiculous. They are just not selling.
 
Actually can go either way. Many have been deterred from purchasing Nvidia because of mining pushing up pricing and instead gone over to AMD.

Also works the other way. Depends on supply and demand in your country I suppose. GPU in Norway now have been the most expensive I have ever seen. Even though they are available, paying £900 for a normal AIB 1080ti is ridiculous. They are just not selling.

They are both loving it.

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Titan money for a bucket of garbage. All sold out, too.

If they say anything otherwise they are lying, and I will tell you why. Nvidia make a couple of cards (1060 I saw on Linus just yesterday) that will not mine until you flash the bios. All they would need to do is launch the card with a perma bios that you can not flash, problem solved right? well no, because they are indeed just giving lip service.

They will say that to keep their gamers interested whist they pretty much shag their wife. Then when mining collapses they will come back to us.

And yes I am a pessimistic old bugger but end of the day I am right. They could stop mining tomorrow if they wanted. Just like they stopped SLi on their low end cards and stopped the guy who used to write Hyper SLi and Any SLi too.

In fact, they could massively help gamers out by allowing SLi on their very low end cards. But no. Stopped all that.
 
They are both loving it.

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Titan money for a bucket of garbage. All sold out, too.

If they say anything otherwise they are lying, and I will tell you why. Nvidia make a couple of cards (1060 I saw on Linus just yesterday) that will not mine until you flash the bios. All they would need to do is launch the card with a perma bios that you can not flash, problem solved right? well no, because they are indeed just giving lip service.

They will say that to keep their gamers interested whist they pretty much shag their wife. Then when mining collapses they will come back to us.

And yes I am a pessimistic old bugger but end of the day I am right. They could stop mining tomorrow if they wanted. Just like they stopped SLi on their low end cards and stopped the guy who used to write Hyper SLi and Any SLi too.

In fact, they could massively help gamers out by allowing SLi on their very low end cards. But no. Stopped all that.

As Kaapstad said on another thread, The SW Titan Xp is actually good value for money, Fastest card currently available if you overlook Titan V which is a workstation card at heart, Which is the first time Titan + Value for money have ever been in the same sentence :lol:
 
As Kaapstad said on another thread, The SW Titan Xp is actually good value for money, Fastest card currently available if you overlook Titan V which is a workstation card at heart, Which is the first time Titan + Value for money have ever been in the same sentence :lol:

All I can say is "Thank god for the 1080Ti". Not because I want one, nor need one but because basically the miners are now using 1080Ti, which has pushed up the price making them not worth f*****g buying. For an extra £100 you can get a Titan, with more cores etc.

But yeah, even 1080Ti prices are ludicrous ATM. I bet Nvidia can't wait to drop the die size even more, more money for less silicon.

But you are right. Right now the best value card high end of the market is the Titan. Which is actually freakin' hilarious if you think about it.

I'm only surprised the price went down, not up !
 
I don't agree with the statement, 'the Titan is good value for money.' Value is dependent on multiple factors, not just what is currently being sold due to supply issue.
 
I don't agree with the statement, 'the Titan is good value for money.' Value is dependent on multiple factors, not just what is currently being sold due to supply issue.

Value is dependent on performance and price to performance. The Titan is £999. Some of the Tis are that much

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-18v-gi.html

That horrid piece of cack is nine hundred sheets.

The Titan Xp costs around 10% more. It will give you about that in performance.

When you start dropping down you see things like this.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pali...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-03k-pl.html

And when you add up the price to performance? the Titan probably offers better bang for the buck.

Yes, it's a lot of money is a grand. But if you have any self control at all or are just as disgusted at current GPU prices it wouldn't take you that long to save up and buy the card worth having. Most notably because it is the fastest card out there and you will not catch one with a 1080Ti. I've yet to see a 1080Ti topple my Titan XP tbh.

However this whole thing stinks and believe me is absolutely killing PC gaming stone dead. If you bought a card prior to the Radeon 580 launch you could still hang in there and play. But the cost of even entry level rubbish is so high now that I would need to be bloody high to recommend it to any of my mates.

"Yeah mate, just grab a Ryzen 1200, kick in the b******s RAM and sacrifice a kidney for a GPU !".

You are looking at nearly a thousand pounds now for a rig that should cost you £500, tops. No console costs £500. Nvidia and AMD and memory manufacturers are doing a bloody good job of keeping consoles in business. I heard that because of dropped sales etc M$ and Sony were only going to make one model of console now and sell it as a more powerful unit. That part came to fruition, however, neither would even so much as have a foothold if PC gaming wasn't arse r**e expensive now.

I have magazines from 2009 and back then you could buy an I3 Clarkdale for about £90 (which was more than enough for any game) a GTX 460 for about £130 and you were bloody laughing. You could play anything. Any game you wanted.

Now? haha.
 
Value is dependent on performance and price to performance. The Titan is £999. Some of the Tis are that much

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...dr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-18v-gi.html

That horrid piece of cack is nine hundred sheets.

The Titan Xp costs around 10% more. It will give you about that in performance.

When you start dropping down you see things like this.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pali...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-03k-pl.html

And when you add up the price to performance? the Titan probably offers better bang for the buck.

Yes, it's a lot of money is a grand. But if you have any self control at all or are just as disgusted at current GPU prices it wouldn't take you that long to save up and buy the card worth having. Most notably because it is the fastest card out there and you will not catch one with a 1080Ti. I've yet to see a 1080Ti topple my Titan XP tbh.

However this whole thing stinks and believe me is absolutely killing PC gaming stone dead. If you bought a card prior to the Radeon 580 launch you could still hang in there and play. But the cost of even entry level rubbish is so high now that I would need to be bloody high to recommend it to any of my mates.

"Yeah mate, just grab a Ryzen 1200, kick in the b******s RAM and sacrifice a kidney for a GPU !".

You are looking at nearly a thousand pounds now for a rig that should cost you £500, tops. No console costs £500. Nvidia and AMD and memory manufacturers are doing a bloody good job of keeping consoles in business. I heard that because of dropped sales etc M$ and Sony were only going to make one model of console now and sell it as a more powerful unit. That part came to fruition, however, neither would even so much as have a foothold if PC gaming wasn't arse r**e expensive now.

I have magazines from 2009 and back then you could buy an I3 Clarkdale for about £90 (which was more than enough for any game) a GTX 460 for about £130 and you were bloody laughing. You could play anything. Any game you wanted.

Now? haha.

Value is not just price to performance. There are far more factors to it than that, many of which are very personal. Ultimately the value of something is whether you are willing to pay for it, and even then there are psychology aspects to it, such as whether you agreed to pay the price begrudgingly or gladly. Again this is very personal.

- Date of purchase
- Length of owernership
- Store markup
- VAT rates
- Shipping rates
- Warranty services
- Inflation rates
- Current economical climate
- Past economical climate
- Likely future economical climate (this is a big one)
- Unlikely but still possible economical climate
- Minimum gaming requirements
- Ideal gaming requirements
- Personal game library
- Other system components

I could keep going. These all play a part in 'value'.

I could be wrong, but I get the sense you're trying to justify your Titan purchase(s), which is not necessary because the price you paid for your XP was not terrible value. I don't consider it good value, but it's by no means £1200.
 
As Kaapstad said on another thread, The SW Titan Xp is actually good value for money, Fastest card currently available if you overlook Titan V which is a workstation card at heart, Which is the first time Titan + Value for money have ever been in the same sentence :lol:

It's a good value right now because of mining ruining the pricing structure of the market.
 
It's not feasible for either.

No one can see the future, EA is a business like any other and they can be bought up, If MS did buy EA then this would be a huge blow to Sony as MS could if they wanted make all EA titles exclusive to Xbox.

As of right now EA are worth around 30 Billion dollars, MS is expected to close in on being worth around the 1 Trillion dollar mark by 2020, If MS wanted to they could easily snap them up, Will it happen ? Aint got a clue but it's business and anything can happen.
 
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