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AngryGoldfish said:
I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned yet on OC3D (though I could have missed it).

Z390 supposedly will support an 8-core i7 mainstream CPU later in 2018 and could possibly be using the 10nm process from the Ice-Lake family.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/my...set-will-support-intel-8-core-processors.html
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https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cp...el_s_x390_chipset_will_support_8c_16th_cpus/1

ATM the only info is the 8c/16th part. The 10nm and Ice Lake stuff is speculation. Though the smaller 10nm node will help fit 8 cores onto a small die.
 
Some pretty interesting stuff is happening to Windows. Going to become overhauled under the hood to a more component like structure to better optimize and streamline Windows for all devices. Meaning for example there will only be one version of Windows 10(there's two now) so companies like mobile hardware makers or even low end PCs, can choose the components needed or necessary (to their needs) to allow a smaller footprint or faster OS. First coming to Windows 10 mobile, as it was built with this new component system more in mind than 10 desktop was, expecting it to come out in 2018 than afterwards more people will work on 10 desktop

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wi...e=https://www.windowscentral.com/andromeda-os
 
NeverBackDown said:
Some pretty interesting stuff is happening to Windows. Going to become overhauled under the hood to a more component like structure to better optimize and streamline Windows for all devices. Meaning for example there will only be one version of Windows 10(there's two now) so companies like mobile hardware makers or even low end PCs, can choose the components needed or necessary (to their needs) to allow a smaller footprint or faster OS. First coming to Windows 10 mobile, as it was built with this new component system more in mind than 10 desktop was, expecting it to come out in 2018 than afterwards more people will work on 10 desktop

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wi...e=https://www.windowscentral.com/andromeda-os
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If it fixes the FPS loss I'm happy because losing 10 is unacceptable (in certain games) to me.
 
Bartacus said:
Yeah I don't get that either. Where does that fit in the lineup? I don't get it.
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It sits right above Vega 56 is where it sits. Right now it's a close call between the 56 and 1070, with the 56 mostly winning when overclocked. You didn't think Nvidia would take that lying down did you dude?
 
AlienALX said:
It sits right above Vega 56 is where it sits. Right now it's a close call between the 56 and 1070, with the 56 mostly winning when overclocked. You didn't think Nvidia would take that lying down did you dude?
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This begs the question of...
How did Nvidia know Vega 56 would be in between a 1070 and 1080? :eek:
 
NeverBackDown said:
This begs the question of...
How did Nvidia know Vega 56 would be in between a 1070 and 1080? :eek:
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1. Leaked products.
2. They didn't, and have made it afterwards.

It's not hard to make. Both 1070 and 1080 are GP104, so just make a GP104 with a core count that matches the performance you want.

Same as the vaga 56. Take a 64 and disable some cores, but make sure it still beats the 1070.
I believe this is the reason why 56 and 64 are so close in performance. Vega 64 is what it is, a bad card that could not beat the 1080 thoroughly, but AMD needed to beat the 1070, so that places the cards rather close.
And now we get a card right in the middle. Stupid idea.
 
Korreborg said:
1. Leaked products.
2. They didn't, and have made it afterwards.

It's not hard to make. Both 1070 and 1080 are GP104, so just make a GP104 with a core count that matches the performance you want.

Same as the vaga 56. Take a 64 and disable some cores, but make sure it still beats the 1070.
I believe this is the reason why 56 and 64 are so close in performance. Vega 64 is what it is, a bad card that could not beat the 1080 thoroughly, but AMD needed to beat the 1070, so that places the cards rather close.
And now we get a card right in the middle. Stupid idea.
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Lol you do know it takes much longer than a couple months to make a GPU right? They likely started this no less than 6 months ago.
 
NeverBackDown said:
Lol you do know it takes much longer than a couple months to make a GPU right? They likely started this no less than 6 months ago.
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I'd hazard a guess that they've had it ready for a while and waited to see what Vega was like before going ahead with producing it. Wouldn't surprise me if they've got a GTX 1090 design hidden away as well.
 
g0ggles1994 said:
I'd hazard a guess that they've had it ready for a while and waited to see what Vega was like before going ahead with producing it. Wouldn't surprise me if they've got a GTX 1090 design hidden away as well.
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Yep. Basically what I was thinking. Kinda sucks for me though. Just bought a 1080. Would have rather spent a little less and gotten a 1070ti.
 
NeverBackDown said:
Lol you do know it takes much longer than a couple months to make a GPU right? They likely started this no less than 6 months ago.
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But they have the GPU.
The GP104 have 20 streaming processors.
The 1070 have 15 out of 20 processors enabled.
So how hard can it be to make one with 17 or 18?
Same pcb and cooler.
 
Korreborg said:
1. Leaked products.
2. They didn't, and have made it afterwards.

It's not hard to make. Both 1070 and 1080 are GP104, so just make a GP104 with a core count that matches the performance you want.

Same as the vaga 56. Take a 64 and disable some cores, but make sure it still beats the 1070.
I believe this is the reason why 56 and 64 are so close in performance. Vega 64 is what it is, a bad card that could not beat the 1080 thoroughly, but AMD needed to beat the 1070, so that places the cards rather close.
And now we get a card right in the middle. Stupid idea.
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If some one as menial as me could predict 1070 using the info from ages ago then I am sure Nvidia would have known what to expect. But either way Nvidia plan a lot of Ti cards. They started out as a card that was not supposed to ever come out but did because AMD did something neat. Kinda like the 560Ti

Hopefully this will see a drop in price now for the 1070.
 
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