name='AlienALX' said:
Ive had cases ship with JUST brass so I wouldnt worry too much
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Ive had cases ship with JUST brass so I wouldnt worry too much
alienware
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name='tinytomlogan' said:Ive had cases ship with JUST brass so I wouldnt worry too much
Pics or it didn't happen hahaha
I had a kid who came in as a trainee (god I used to hate training snotty kids, I really have no patience AT ALL) and he brought in his own PC that had never worked properly since he built it. Good start then lol.
Constant BSODs, reboots etc. Turns out he put a brass post in every hole and laid the board on them, the fool
I was really thinking it was going to be fried for sure but nuh uh, as soon as we got it up off of them (and straightened the bent soldered through capacitor legs) it was as good as new
What's awesome though is that two of the three kids I trained went on to be very successful IT admins
The last one? Well, that little C U next tuesday was a good for nothing any way. Little bastard used to eat fried chicken in my workshop and chuck the bones down the backs of the workbenches because he was too f**king idle to put them in the bin.
alienware
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And get an ESD wrist strap. Yes, you look like a total mungbean but at least you won't spark something.
Trust me, sparking something is just the worst thing that can happen during a build. You then have to figure out what is broken or you end up sending back fully working hardware and getting knobbed out of restocking fees.
There is nothing worse in this world than buying a pile of parts and one of them is broken, and then trying to figure out which one without having another rig to test parts in.
Trust me, sparking something is just the worst thing that can happen during a build. You then have to figure out what is broken or you end up sending back fully working hardware and getting knobbed out of restocking fees.
There is nothing worse in this world than buying a pile of parts and one of them is broken, and then trying to figure out which one without having another rig to test parts in.
Yeah, its a pretty rare occurance to spark anything (depending on your carpets/socks - synthetics spark loads), but a wrist strap is pretty good insurance against that. Worst comes to it, just make sure the case is plugged in and you touch the metal of the case.
There really is nothing worse than seeing a spark from your finger take a £800 chip straight to the bin.
There really is nothing worse than seeing a spark from your finger take a £800 chip straight to the bin.
thestepster
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i never use a wrist strap i just touch the case often and that gets rid of any charge
thestepster
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does the same really and they charge u for them touchin the case has never steered me wrong
alienware
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It depends on how much hardware you handle. I worked an I.T company for about four years in SE London and I sparked out loads of expensive gear. Touching the case is fine when you are touching the case. It's when you reach over to pick something up that you're not grounded.
Sure, you may never wreck anything by doing the touch technique but it's always something that can happen. And when you are handling thousands of pounds/dollars worth of equipment it's worth paying a tenner to keep yourself strapped.
Sure, you may never wreck anything by doing the touch technique but it's always something that can happen. And when you are handling thousands of pounds/dollars worth of equipment it's worth paying a tenner to keep yourself strapped.
alienware
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name='Diablo' said:
Absolutely. I sparked a Voodoo 3500 back in the day, cost me over £200. You're then faced with the moral dilemna of being dishonest and taking it back and lying, or just swallowing the cost.
I've sparked loads of hardware. Soundblaster live platinum with the live drive... My boss was sooo pissed. AGP refused to replace it too.
thestepster
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but i personally think that ur really not doing to create that much charge within a few secs of touchin the case or even within a few min unless ur rubbing a balloon on your hair
alienware
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What you think about it dude (without sounding rude) is irrelevant. ESD exists and it's a killer. Of course, wearing a strap is annoying and gets in the way but it's one of the few ways of making sure..
It's when you end up doing something without thinking that it catches you. And yeah, you might go for years without damaging anything but it can and does happen. And when it does it sucks serious bum.
Honestly you would be utterly amazed at how little static it needs. Over the years I've done in quite a few motherboards with static. Can't prove it of course but I know it was static. I didn't even see a spark on those and one of them was an absolute gutter.
Years ago when working for my shop I was given a QDI board. Doubt you will remember the company but they kicked all kinds of ass before Asus and Gigabyte showed up. Any way, this board in particular was dual Slot 1. Which was nothing out of the ordinary in the server world but this one was built for home use with NT/2000. Full EATX, onboard LVD scsi (which as an Adaptec card was worth about £400) 8 SDRAM slots, etc etc. This bastard cost about a grand.
Any way, after a lot of arguing with QDI I managed to get it replaced out of warranty. However, the owner of the company (I'm like a Jack Russell when I need to be dude, once I get my teeth in I won't let go and went right to the MO) basically told me to take the new board and f**k off.
I got it. Was fitting it. Forgot a screw, put it down, come back, picked it up. SPRRRK. Gone.
The worst part of all? This board cost over a grand. And I had kind of burned my bridges.
It's when you end up doing something without thinking that it catches you. And yeah, you might go for years without damaging anything but it can and does happen. And when it does it sucks serious bum.
Honestly you would be utterly amazed at how little static it needs. Over the years I've done in quite a few motherboards with static. Can't prove it of course but I know it was static. I didn't even see a spark on those and one of them was an absolute gutter.
Years ago when working for my shop I was given a QDI board. Doubt you will remember the company but they kicked all kinds of ass before Asus and Gigabyte showed up. Any way, this board in particular was dual Slot 1. Which was nothing out of the ordinary in the server world but this one was built for home use with NT/2000. Full EATX, onboard LVD scsi (which as an Adaptec card was worth about £400) 8 SDRAM slots, etc etc. This bastard cost about a grand.
Any way, after a lot of arguing with QDI I managed to get it replaced out of warranty. However, the owner of the company (I'm like a Jack Russell when I need to be dude, once I get my teeth in I won't let go and went right to the MO) basically told me to take the new board and f**k off.
I got it. Was fitting it. Forgot a screw, put it down, come back, picked it up. SPRRRK. Gone.
The worst part of all? This board cost over a grand. And I had kind of burned my bridges.
thestepster
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im not doubting it happens im just sayin ive never found it to ever have been an issue and think its pretty bad if these things are so delicate that it would break them so easily
Runebeard
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I know what Steppy is saying, I've changed a couple of minor pieces whilst only touching the case for grounding, but I have to agree with AMD and Alien that if I was playing with an £800 pound CPU I'd pay the extra few quid just to be safe as I couldn't risk losing something like that.
alienware
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All silicon devices are incredibly fragile dude. Sadly that's just the nature of them 
I mean damn, remember that they are made in sterile enviroments, one spec of dust can wreck a CPU
I tell you, I love google images. Here is the board I had. You could fit a ram riser to give you four more DIMM slots. Best of all it used the 440BX chipset so came with AGP. The server boards all used the GX set and you couldn't put a decent GPU in. Thankfully I had it running for a few months before I sparked it. I had to move it into a full tower because it was getting too hot. I had a 32mb 3DLABS Oxygen with SLI'd Voodoo 2s. 4 8gb LVD drives in a hotswap tray and loads of other goodness. This motherboard back then was the equivalent of Disney Land Think of those new ones with many PCIE and you have it summed up.
I mean damn, remember that they are made in sterile enviroments, one spec of dust can wreck a CPU
I tell you, I love google images. Here is the board I had. You could fit a ram riser to give you four more DIMM slots. Best of all it used the 440BX chipset so came with AGP. The server boards all used the GX set and you couldn't put a decent GPU in. Thankfully I had it running for a few months before I sparked it. I had to move it into a full tower because it was getting too hot. I had a 32mb 3DLABS Oxygen with SLI'd Voodoo 2s. 4 8gb LVD drives in a hotswap tray and loads of other goodness. This motherboard back then was the equivalent of Disney Land
Think of those new ones with many PCIE and you have it summed up.
thestepster
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ebay mate?
