Problems with my rig...

Speedz

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Hey guys,
So I'm coming to you guys to try and find me a solution to fixing my PC. As the best solution I can think of thus far is to go out and buy a sledgehammer. You know, check all the connections are tight with it......
I've had a lot of problems with my rig since I built it at Christmas just gone. It just seems to break itself, then sometimes miraculously it will fix itself as well. At one point my pc would boot up but it wouldn't let me play any games. SO, did some troubleshooting and found out my graphics card wasn't working. Just simply, not on. As though it wasn't even plugged in. I touched absolutely nothing towards it, then suddenly it just turned on. Fans started going and games could run again. I did nothing towards it. So I didn't complain as it was working fine again. This happened a good few months ago now. Not happened again recently.
However recently, everything crashes. Chrome. Games. Everything. Games seem to break themselves without me touching a thing. One day they work, the next they will play for 5 minutes, then just crash. The bios will tell me I'm overclocked (4.5ghz at 1.35v), yet in windows I'm still on stock clocks and the temperatures would back that up (max temp on load of about 42-43 with D14 on 2600k). Games freeze at different times. For example BF3 can be fairly stable for most the time, then once or twice a day it will just stop working. However, other games like Just Cause 2 will freeze at every attempt to play the game. Then again, GTA IV had constant freezing problems, which I have now fixed, and I can play it for as long as I like and it won't crash. This is what confuses me so much.
So, I have tried everything so far. New drivers, cleared cmos, updated and verified game files, reinstalled games completely, tried old GPU drivers, tried beta GPU drivers, tried brand new GPU drivers.
The only thing I have yet to try is a clean install of windows. I've spoken to a friend and that's all he can think of doing to get it to work. However, I have been putting off this idea as if I was going to do this, I'd like to just reinstall all games as well. (OS on SSD and games on a different HDD). This would then assure me that everything is fresh as could be and I couldn't do anything to change it. The only downside to this is that I have fairly slow internet and it takes me the best part of a day to download one game. That's the main reason I've put it off as long as possible as it would take an unbelievable amount of time to get my pc back to 'normal' so to say (all games and programs back on that I'd like). The reason I'm doing this now is that I bought Ghost Recon Future Soldier this morning and have been downloading it all day to find out that I cannot play it for longer than 5-6 minutes without it crashing. I've had enough and want my computer just to function properly.
So what I'm here to ask is, would the clean install of windows be the answer or is there anything else I can do to fix my computer's constant crashes. If there's any other information you guys want about the crashes or my rig then just ask. I just want my pc to work as it should now...
 
Well, it's possible that it's a BIOS issue. Have you tried reflashing your BIOS with a new one? Or even the same one, as BIOSs can become corrupted.
 
No I haven't tried flashing bios Josh. To be honest, I'm not too sure how lol. Will have a look into it.
And James its the MSI Twin Frozr II 580. Not overclocked on my half at all. Not sure if its factory overclocked slightly though. Speeds are 800 on the core, 1600 shader clock, 2048 memory clock.
 
Alright, MSI OCs would be stable anyway, I've heard of some other brands like VTX3D being unstable even from the factory.

What power supply are you using?

I do kind of agree with Josh that it's more likely to be a motherboard / BIOS issue, but still, always best to test everything
 
yeah give full specs and we can go from there. but imho it sounds like either power or motherboard issues. I had a gigabyte board that things would work one day and not the next and stay off for awhile then blammo start functioning again. RMA'd the board and no issues since. turned out to be an instable z68 chipset

a complete re-install may be warranted if there are driver issues or say maybe software incompatibilities.
 
Hey guys. Somehow I have two accounts on OC3D that I didn't even know of the second one and my pc logged me into the wrong account lol. So this is still the same guy who posted this thread. My specs can be seen in my sig now.
 
do you have a spare psu to try out??? if so swap it out may rule out power issues. Barring that I'd contact MSI support and see if they can help cause imho it sounds like a faulty mobo
 
No sorry, no spare PSU. Although I'd hope its not that as Corsair make some good psu's.
Hmm, if anyone comes back with any other info/ advice then I'll try that. Otherwise it will be a clean install of windows and if it's still broken then contact msi. :(
 
It sounds like a bad stick of ram, try swapping slot 1(a1) with slot 4(b2) and slot 3(b1) with slot 2(A2) or just swap the two sticks over this wont solve the problem but will make the crashing less often till you can get some more ram, this would be my best guess to why it keeps crashing, hope this is of some help to you
 
You could try running Memtest86+ to check if it is indeed your memory which is at fault.

Ok, so i've looked your motherboard up and it uses the same BIOS as mine.
I'm going to give some instructions on how to flash your BIOS to the latest applicable version.

Firstly, you'll need a USB pen drive. It doesn't have to be a large one, but you'll need to format it to FAT32. Then, download this archived file (http://uk.msi.com/service/download/bios-17923.html) and unzip it when downloaded.
Place the .AMI file onto your memory stick, then power down your system. Power up, and enter the UEFI. On the right hand side of the screen you shall see a tile named 'Utilities'. Click on that, and locate the 'M-Flash' option. After clicking on that, there should be an option to locate the file from within a USB drive. Select your USB drive, and then click the .AMI file that's on there - the BIOS shall begin to flash itself.
When it's done, the computer shall restart itself.
Note: any settings that you had changed in the UEFI shall be reset, so you may want to change them back before you boot into Windows.

Hope this helps you, for if Memtest and a BIOS flash doesn't, a clean install of Win7 is the last port of call before MSI need to be contacted.

Best of luck.
 
Thanks for all your help guys. Really appreciate it :)
I think I will try the memtest tomorrow and if my RAM comes back dodgy then I will try some of my mates RAM for the day and see if things work with his RAM. If things work with other RAM then new RAM it shall be lol. (How many times did I say RAM in this message? :P)
 
Well, I tried to do the memtest and it starts, does the test for anywhere between 2 and 25 seconds then just stops. No errors come up, just stops. Won't allow me to hit esc to get out of it so I just have to manually restart. I recorded a vid of it on my phone and I'm uploading it to YouTube now to show what happens. Will link you to it when it uploads as my internet is a pile of poo.
 
I'm not really acquainted with Memtest all that much, but from what I can put together one of two things has gone wrong;
-The file on the DVD that you booted from (or whatever media you used) corrupted - not entirely unheard of, just unlucky.
-It's the motherboard's fault.

Apart from recommending a BIOS flash, there's not much advice I can give. S_I_N is most likely far more adept at this than I, so I shall leave it to him and the others :)
 
I had an issue with my GPU yesterday. It was working fine and then all of a sudden when I did anything GPU intensive, my PC wouldn't crash per say or even BSOD. My issue was with both of my monitors turning off completely when I either started F@H on the GPU or if I played any game.

Your problems are not the same but what I did might help you. It is very likely that it will not make a difference, but what I did was set the PCI Express Link State Power Management setting to 'Off' and I've not had any issues since (touch wood - it's only been a day, but everything seems A-OK now). I read that with the setting on it can cause issues with Graphics Cards.

EDIT: Regarding Memtest, all you need to do is burn the iso file onto the disc and reboot, which you have done, so I'm not sure what is causing the issue there. Did you burn the latest version of Memtest on to the disc?
 
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Hmm, might have to have a look into that if flashing mobo bios does nothing. Just wondering, what does flashing the bios do? Like will I have to reinstall things or is all my data kept?

And yes, version 4.0 of memtest. Trying to upload the video from my phone but my phones having a spaz attack now and just keeps failing the upload... FML
 
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