PowerColor shows off their Radeon R9 390X DEVIL GPU, but be warned, this is not AMD F

[Tolemac]

It will be the Fury that will compete with the 980ti I think personally the 390X will be underneath that I should imagine

 

[mazty]

To be honest, you should probably be clearer than putting two quote marks around your post. Don't insult all of the forum members in one big generalization, because what you said simply isn't true. OC3D has some of the most open minded, helpful, and mature members compared to any other forum.

Not really - if people are in too much of a rush to read what I say correctly, that's their fault.
Im also not insulting all members (??), just the people on this thread who are bleating the same points and ignoring the numerous benchmarks out there.

 

[barnsley]

No, you're too busy trying to get a 1-up even though the persons point WAS WRONG and I was right. You are some of the most obnoxious forum members I've ever come across too busy trying to defend AMD rather than actually discuss the point like an adult. ..

To be fair, you're too busy just trying to make the 290X/290 seem worse than it actually is. You're using rumours as fact when it comes to Fury so why should people treat you like an Adult when you just sound like a Nvidia fanboy/have a grudge against AMD?

The AMD cards perform better due to the amount of vram and the memory bus. If you don't believe they're still competitive cards then expect people to show you wrong. Its interesting how 4k matters/doesn't matter depending on what Nvidia cards you compare to AMD.

So in the fringe case of 4K gaming, it has an advantage (link please, would like to see that it's not just drivers)....But for anyone else, stick with the 970...

ignoring the numerous benchmarks out there.

http://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/79/amd-radeon-r9-290x-8gb-cf-vs-titan-sli-gtx-980-4k/index.html


You do realize, unlike the 980, the 970 and 290X are very equal?

While the 980 does tend to beat the 290X (which is what you'd expect from a more expensive card) excluding UHD stuff, we've got to remember that AMD could very likely pull out multiple versions of fury to go against the 980 et al. My personal feelings is that the 390X will go against higher clocked 970s while the various fury cards could target the 980 (hence the 4gb HBM stuff),980Ti and -hopefully- the Titan X.

 

[mazty]

To be fair, you're too busy just trying to make the 290X/290 seem worse than it actually is. You're using rumours as fact when it comes to Fury so why should people treat you like an Adult when you just sound like a Nvidia fanboy/have a grudge against AMD?

The AMD cards perform better due to the amount of vram and the memory bus. If you don't believe they're still competitive cards then expect people to show you wrong. Its interesting how 4k matters/doesn't matter depending on what Nvidia cards you compare to AMD.

http://www.tweaktown.com/tweakipedia/79/amd-radeon-r9-290x-8gb-cf-vs-titan-sli-gtx-980-4k/index.html


You do realize, unlike the 980, the 970 and 290X are very equal?

While the 980 does tend to beat the 290X (which is what you'd expect from a more expensive card) excluding UHD stuff, we've got to remember that AMD could very likely pull out multiple versions of fury to go against the 980 et al. My personal feelings is that the 390X will go against higher clocked 970s while the various fury cards could target the 980 (hence the 4gb HBM stuff),980Ti and -hopefully- the Titan X.

I've been using benchmarks so how is that me trying to make the cards seem worse than they are?

And what is wrong with using rumors? What is immature is not even entertaining the possibility that the rumours are correct when more and more evidence is coming out that shows it is - seen the front of overclock yet? R9 290X and 270 are looking to be rebrands. It really isn't me that has a grudge or is a fanboy...

Funny - the overclock review of the XFX 290X 8GB is that the extra memory is almost negligible in the performance increase:
"As to the question of whether the additional 4GB of GDDR5 actually helps us out, we have to conclude that it doesn't make a jot of difference. There are a couple of tests in which the higher resolution option showed some performance increase, but it was very much the exception rather than the rule."

And if you look a few posts back, I clearly state that its the 970 and 290X which are competitors for one another, not the 980 and 290X....

The key to Fury is simply one think: pricing. If it's priced against the 980, game on. If it is higher, then they will have problems as it leaves the rest of their line up dated and simply not very attractive when you consider the price hike that accompanies rebrands.

 

[barnsley]

The key to Fury is simply one think: pricing. If it's priced against the 980, game on. If it is higher, then they will have problems as it leaves the rest of their line up dated and simply not very attractive when you consider the price hike that accompanies rebrands.

Rumours are often quite off. Not a huge fan of using them as a pointer as they often favor one company over the other. Its always 'Titan Killer' this or

Rebrands/rehashes/whatever term is correct so someone doesn't try and correct me B) are always a major part of both companies' release. To be honest I'd doubt people would be complaining as much if Nvidia had done the same. Its a shame they can't redo the 370 as a newer card (maybe the 3xxX gpus will be based on newer chips?) albeit they have made a 4gb version of the 270X. Maybe all these rebrands are using the higher memory cards? So whatever the 280X gets rebranded into has 6GB maybe?

I think AMD will pull it off, I mean I'm really hoping they do as my 780 Ti hasn't been a great card to me and I'd like to switch over to a company that don't have a thing for lying.
I'd go for semi-incompetence over general dickishness any day.

 

[Exar]

And if you look a few posts back, I clearly state that its the 970 and 290X which are competitors for one another, not the 980 and 290X....

Going by the benchmarks, i have a different view

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7037/sapphire-radeon-r9-290x-8gb-tri-video-card-review/index10.html

So while its not quite up to a gtx 980 the Sapphire 290x tri-x is still pretty close. Taking this as a baseline, with some minimum improvements AMD could have a 390x which can perform close to a GTX980.

Thing is, everyone is going to look at any videocard considering what that person needs. I am not interested that AMD is consuming more, because that doesnt translate into that much money. I am not interested that the card is a few degrees hotter because when i got myself a case, i got a very good one in the cooling department(silverstone raven rv02-e).I am looking at 1440p performance, because i want to get a 1440p screen. Considering that Freesync screens are cheaper than gsync ones by quite a few $, i am looking more towards AMD. To each his own i guess.

 

[mazty]

Rumours are often quite off. Not a huge fan of using them as a pointer as they often favor one company over the other. Its always 'Titan Killer' this or

Rebrands/rehashes/whatever term is correct so someone doesn't try and correct me B) are always a major part of both companies' release. To be honest I'd doubt people would be complaining as much if Nvidia had done the same. Its a shame they can't redo the 370 as a newer card (maybe the 3xxX gpus will be based on newer chips?) albeit they have made a 4gb version of the 270X. Maybe all these rebrands are using the higher memory cards? So whatever the 280X gets rebranded into has 6GB maybe?

I think AMD will pull it off, I mean I'm really hoping they do as my 780 Ti hasn't been a great card to me and I'd like to switch over to a company that don't have a thing for lying.
I'd go for semi-incompetence over general dickishness any day.

Looks like the rumours have been quite good on the AMD front, but obviously specifics make the difference at the end of the day.

The issue is Nvidia haven't rehashed their upper-end cards for sometime, with the GTX 750, 960 and beyond all being Maxwell. AMD look to be using chips from Oct 2013 and before in some of their main enthusiast offerings which just looks suicidal. A memory bump is nice, but realistically if the chip is old, the architecture will end up being the limiting factor.

Considering the corporate infighting and reshuffling within AMD, and the insane CPU route they are going down, I have a feeling that corporate ineptitude will end up biting the 300 series and Nvidia's market share will only grow which is bad for everyone as good competition is always needed for fair prices and innovation.

 

[barnsley]

Looks like the rumours have been quite good on the AMD front, but obviously specifics make the difference at the end of the day.

The issue is Nvidia haven't rehashed their upper-end cards for sometime, with the GTX 750, 960 and beyond all being Maxwell. AMD look to be using chips from Oct 2013 and before in some of their main enthusiast offerings which just looks suicidal. A memory bump is nice, but end of the day if the chip is old, the architecture will end up being the limiting factor.

AMD has talent. Its a shame that said talent can't be reflected in their management. The 290x is a great card that would have sold much better if it wasn't for the idiot who decided that releasing it stock cooler only for 6 months was a great idea. I guess cryptocurrency didn't help prices either. People could bash on about power draw (as temperature was quite easily solved by sapphire et al designing half decent coolers)

 

[mazty]

AMD has talent. Its a shame that said talent can't be reflected in their management. The 290x is a great card that would have sold much better if it wasn't for the idiot who decided that releasing it stock cooler only for 6 months was a great idea. I guess cryptocurrency didn't help prices either. People could bash on about power draw (as temperature was quite easily solved by sapphire et al designing half decent coolers)

Definitely. The R9 290 should have been a runaway success as the GTX 770 was vastly overpriced in comparison, but as you said thanks to a price hike due to bit miners and a delay in 3rd party coolers, it didn't get nearly as much attention as it deserved. Here's hoping AMD can pull something magical out of the bag because strong competition is always good for the consumer.