Philly's G80 Waterblock Comparison Review Work Log ***56K WARNING***

Philly_boy

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I am in the process of acquiring 4 sets of G80 waterblocks to do a comparison review. So far, Gabe@ Swiftech and Alex @ Petra's have come thru with a load of "loaners". The guys @ Danger Den and Eddy @ EK are both also contributing lotsa stuff (tubing, extra barbs, a Fluke MM for temps/voltages). I also have the expertise of OPPAINTER (Swiftech) and ROKK (DD's design engineer) to help with ensuring the data is gathered as fairly as possible.

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First off I will be comparing the MCW-60 to the Apogee 1U (with ram sinks on the ramdac, VRM's and memory modules and fans blowing directly on the ram sinks.) then eventually I'll be comparing both of them to the DD NV-88 and EK's soon-to-be-released FC-8800 full coverage blocks. I will also be playing with 226 watt pelts on the Apogee 1U's fed by a Meanwell SP-320-13.5. We will see if the FC blocks are better cost vs performance to something more basic (MCW-60 or Apogge 1U with ram sinks).

I am going to try it all in my current loop (link in my sig) as it is now, then add a second MCP-355 (with Petra's top of course!) to see if the increased flow/head will help a loop trying to cool 4 blocks (CPU/GPU x 2/chipset). I will also compare data with the CPU/NF4 on a seperate loop (MCP-355/EK RES 150/BI GTX240 or the Swifty MCR 220 rad feeding my Storm G4/Maze 4 Expert) and allow my standard loop - PA120.3/MCP355 (Petra's top)/Cyclone 120 res - to cool just the blocks used for the comparison.

Right now I am doing the mundane things like rad prep while I wait on the shipments from Danger Den and EK.

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Stay tuned as I get ready to lap my FX-60, Storm G4, Maze 4 Expert, Apogee 1U and MCW-60 blocks to 1500 grit/brasso polish. Then it's off to prep the 8800GTX's and get the right fans in the right place. I am also going to replace my Noise Isolator fan controller with a Sunbeam Rheobus as the Noise Isolator make the fans whine worse than my gf when I tell her no she can't buy another pair of shoes!!

I will post pics of the entire journey and then you can see the final polished review on the front page of OC3D!!
 
Keep us updated on this one Philly as this is one helluva project!! I can't wait to start seeing some of the results and figure out which blocks are the true dominatrixage!

Those pelts are lookin' mighty sexy too I might add :D
 
terrific work Philly :D remove the IHS of the 8800 ;) on second thoughts better not unless you want a dead card :p

keep us updated :worship:
 
OK. . .I now know why lapping is so important. Theres no way my FX-60 IHS was flat. Take a looky:

This is the station in front of the hi def TV watching CSI (Grey's Anatomy was a rerun). The pooch (my gf's Shih-Tsu) is parked at my feet.

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After one sheet of 320 grit. You can still see the silk screening on the IHS:

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After the 2nd sheet of 320 grit. That silk screening is still there albeit more faint this time.

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After 3rd sheet of 320. Now we're getting somewhere!

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After one sheet of 400 grit to polish it a bit.

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After 500 grit. This was the finest grit I had laying about. Gotta get some 1000, 1200, and 1500 tomorrow @ Pep Boys, a local automotive store.

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name='Kempez' said:
Nice mate. Some lower grit and we'll be there :D

Going out now to purchase some 800/1000/2000 grit @ a local parts store.

That sucker (as well as my Apogee 1U's) will shine like a mirror by the time I am thru!:beerchug: :rocker: :yumyum:
 
Philly_boy said:
Going out now to purchase some 800/1000/2000 grit @ a local parts store.

That sucker (as well as my Apogee 1U's) will shine like a mirror by the time I am thru!:beerchug: :rocker: :yumyum:

w00t sexyness!
 
Nice mate, lapping is key IMO... Well I used to lap everything until I started just popping the IHS's. It's a damn shame that Intel and AMD have decided to start soldering on the friggin IHS's, bastids!

Keep us updated with more pix and resuls when you get em mate. I am going to have a talk with Kemp and Jim and see if we can't get this whole thing done up as a front page news store or something once your testing is complete.

An OC3D exclusive news piece perhaps? :)
 
name='Toxcity' said:
What are you doing to that CPU?? :ban:

Being even less than a nOOble @ lapping, the best way I can describe it is that he`s taking off the coating that is on stock cpu. Method being to use coarse "sanding", using a finer and finer grade the closer to the base metal he gets to eventually be left with an incredibly smooth surface to work off for his heat exchange.

I`d take it the usual method for testing the finish will eventually be it`s reflection. Brasso I`d imagine being the ultimate finish.

This will leave a working surface with a better heat dissopation between the cpu core directly underneathing and the cooling block he`s about to attach. The exchange is better %-wize than using the chip surface as it is @ stock.

These sorta guyz have balls imo, I wouldn`t undertake this with a `new` piece of kit. my hat is off tbh.
 
wow

i was happy to just have mine "not leak"

interesting the lapping of the IHS, what is the expected gain in degrees?

i had thought as TIM's have now matured lapping was a thing of the past

as i am looking to use a cpu block on my aging 7800gtx, I am interested to see the difference the large monolith style coolers make.
 
name='Kempez' said:
We can certainly get philly some access to get a real article done or something :D

Man, I really appreciate it. It's going to take 3-4 weeks yet as I don't yet have all the blocks I want to review. I'll pm you when it's done and you can see if it "Front page" worthy.

Thanks again,
 
Here's the FX-60 after some 800 grit luvin:

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Another 800 grit shot:

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Now we're making some progress after the 2nd sheet of 1000 grit.

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Here's the finished product:

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I can see that the corners are no longer flat. Maybe I went too fast. Not too bad all-n-all.

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