Phanteks PH-TC14PE Review

[silenthill]

The Silver Arrow is a unique design by Thermalright which is known for its creativity not a copy cat of the D14 but this cooler looks exactly like the D14 but they made the 14'' fans with cutoff tops & bottoms so that the ram can fit.

 

[Lollipop]

I dont know why everyone loves the D-14 so much... its like sheep following eachother, seriously. Sure its one of the best, but not THE best and doesnt look that nice. [Although theres always goingto be some that like the looks and prefers it, but I swear most people are just sheep following others before giving their minds a chance to even consider the Silver Arrow which looks very nice and has slightly better performance]

I still think that the Silver Arrow is either on par or slightly better than the D14 for performance and looks allot more sexy. Silver Arrow is the king. The D-14 is the king for the sheep and narrow minded.

In toms review the D14 beat the Silver Arrow

 

[dugdiamond]

it's "courses for horses"

3-5C either way is no biggy, unless you are folding 24/7

no matter what is said, this cooler is now in the top 3 of all air coolers.

nuff said

 

[Lollipop]

Exactly, thats Toms review. He is very biasd to the D 14 and OC3D descreetly advertises it allot plus he doesnt like Thermalright. and it shows lol.

Even so the Silver Arrow still beat it all the way untill he overclocked the final stage and it wasnt a fair comparison behind the scenes.

Everyone I know who has had both and compared and all other comparisons I have witnessed the Silver Arrow has beat the D 14, close, but still beat it. The Silver Arrow has more surface area, is better designed and as a bonus looks very nice compared. And is also very silent with better more powerfull fans. And performs slightly better than the D 14 not just a normal or low temps but high temps too anyone who is comparing them fairly.

A case with average or good airflow [which nearly everyone overclocking wil have], the Silver Arrow wins no end. A case with very bad airflow [like in Toms test rig] the Silver Arrow will still win up until you extremely overclock and wil lose slightly, but even then no way near in Toms biasd comparison

D14 still looks better (imo)

 

[ruthless_villain]

Exactly, thats Toms review. He is very biasd to the D 14 and OC3D descreetly advertises it allot plus he doesnt like Thermalright. and it shows lol.

Even so the Silver Arrow still beat it all the way untill he overclocked the final stage and it wasnt a fair comparison behind the scenes.

Everyone I know who has had both and compared and all other comparisons I have witnessed the Silver Arrow has beat the D 14, close, but still beat it. The Silver Arrow has more surface area, is better designed and as a bonus looks very nice compared. And is also very silent with better more powerfull fans. And performs slightly better than the D 14 not just a normal or low temps but high temps too anyone who is comparing them fairly.

A case with average or good airflow [which nearly everyone overclocking wil have], the Silver Arrow wins no end. A case with very bad airflow [like in Toms test rig] the Silver Arrow will still win up until you extremely overclock and wil lose slightly, but even then no way near in Toms biasd comparison

sir coming to a new forum and calling one of the mods a bias reviewer and then calling anyone with a d14 a sheep is not the best way to make friends. may i suggest you calm down a little

 

[Lollipop]

sir coming to a new forum and calling one of the mods a bias reviewer and then calling anyone with a d14 a sheep is not the best way to make friends. may i suggest you calm down a little

^This

 

[ruthless_villain]

seriously man your not doing yourself any favours

 

[sheroo]

All due respect to TTL he is my fav reviewer and overlooker on youtube, but its apparaent that advertise revenue cant help but get in the way of fair reviews and pushing companies products and being bias, just the way it is I suppose, that is how they make their money lol

To be fair mate - if he thinks something is rubbish he tells it like it is. NZXT and OCZ have removed him from their Christmas card list.

 

[fcb]

Phanteks' new cooler looks quite promising. Hope they'll distribute their products in Canada.

Yup, Noctua's choice of colour is a 'either you'll like it or dislike it.' Personally, I don't mind the colouring. I'm not much into windows so the aspect of me constantly looking at the internals of my case are probably limited to when I clean out the dust once a month or if I want to showcase the efforts I've put into it.

Noctua was at Computex 2011, and they displayed some interesting new designs for coolers and fans. There was an upgraded version of the D14 I believe. Their new fans look a bit strange at 1st, but it seems most of their demo items at their booth were projects still in progress. Can't wait to see their next release.

 

[silenthill]

The way Tom tests is clear and obvious to everyone because he captures everything on his camera so no debate on that issue I don't know Tom personally but he seems to be sensor & dedicated to his job and I have tested on most of my builds for my clients both the D14 and Silver Arrow and at 4 & 4.2 GHz the Silver Arrow performs better but when you go to 4.4 on 1.45 v the Silver Arrow can't compete with the D14 because it has less heat pipes than the D14 even though they are bigger heat pipes, as for calling people sheep that only shows the level of education that person has and his inability to communicate in a civilised manner and this has become common on most forums where you get people calling names, very sad indeed.

 

[tinytomlogan]

All due respect to TTL he is my fav reviewer and overlooker on youtube, but its apparaent that advertise revenue cant help but get in the way of fair reviews and pushing companies products and being bias, just the way it is I suppose, that is how they make their money lol

Find me some Noctua ads anywhere on the site EVER then. My reviews are never bias. TBH my review style has lost this site more money tbh.

[rant]Ive pissed a lot of people off by telling the truth. Lost a 6 month NZXT compaign for example by telling it how it was with the H2.....

Youll notice a lot of smaller sites gave it a gold award and then magically had NZXT banners appear. They just sold their arses and made their awards pointless. Any one that gave it gold was either bought out, or so small they just got so excited they actually got a sample. [/rant]

So it would be a good idea to look into statements likke that before you make them

 

[Ya93sin]

Think the video of the case was pretty self explanatory anyway, just looking at the thing

 

[yassarikhan786]

Find me some Noctua ads anywhere on the site EVER then. My reviews are never bias. TBH my review style has lost this site more money tbh.

[rant]Ive pissed a lot of people off by telling the truth. Lost a 6 month NZXT compaign for example by telling it how it was with the H2.....

Youll notice a lot of smaller sites gave it a gold award and then magically had NZXT banners appear. They just sold their arses and made their awards pointless. Any one that gave it gold was either bought out, or so small they just got so excited they actually got a sample. [/rant]

So it would be a good idea to look into statements likke that before you make them

You tell him Tom. Everyone's test results are going to be different and a lot of reviews don't have video evidence like TTL's, which is why I always prefer the reviews on OC3D before anything else. I'm not ass lickin here, I'm just saying what I believe.

 

[BrandonR-NZ]

I love the look of both the Phantek and Noctua coolers, but the Noctua fans are just plain ugly, if they changed the colour scheme of the fans I would buy one without even thinking about it. For looks the Phantek wins for me... sorry noctua.

 

[yassarikhan786]

Like I said Tom all due respect to you. But it is apparaent that no matter how good a reviewer you are that you haveto make money somehow, and that is by advertise [or descreet] advertise revenue, the most stands out with Bitfenix.

Which ends up in you being biasd to lure people into buying certain products [like Bitfenix Alchemy cables], and it works very well well done

Bitfenix and Noctua make some awesome products, which is why you see good reviews. If you have seen all of his videos on Youtube you would know he never gives a bad product a good review.

 

[Ya93sin]

What!?! BitFenix are making some extremely good products at the moment (bar their 230mm fans), if they make good products, they get good reviews. A good review might build up a better rapport with the company in questuon, but it is that way around not the other

 

[tinytomlogan]

Like I said Tom all due respect to you. But it is apparaent that no matter how good a reviewer you are that you haveto make money somehow, and that is by advertise [or descreet] advertise revenue, the most stands out with Bitfenix.

Which ends up in you being biasd to lure people into buying certain products [like Bitfenix Alchemy cables], and it works very well well done

Sadly BitFenix have never given me a penny, but hey that should just make you realise that quite honestly the alchemy cables really are the best available and Im not the only person that thinks so.

The site does like EVERY other site earn money from banners. But if you cant see a banner on the site then we are not getting paid.

IF there is a banner on the iste and a product is bad we still report about it because thats what we pride ourselves on.

Now dude Id really like to leave this here because you have hijacked a review thread.

 

[jonowee]

Is that you Rasta, TechSmart? Nah, what am I saying.

*Ahem*

About BitFenix, now pay attention, if you did, you'd notice the Alchemy cables are not like Akasa, NZXT, or whatever other cable extensions out there. Here's why the Alchemy cable extensions are a step above the rest, the sleeving termination are inside the plugs of the AWG18 end connectors. Their OEM didn't just whack in whatever length sleeving inside and try to mask it with heatshrink. Unfortunately AWG24-26 connector pins cannot handle the girth of wire and high density sleeving.

At the moment only a handful of mainstream chassis makers are expanding into the accessorising/plug-and-play modding. TTL from his Time To Live Customs modding days, is excited about these developments to open the door for other modders and tweakers. Let say Corsair, they have great fit and finish, but beyond different side panels, they're a bit lacking on the modding front. Lian Li, they do modding friendly cases and spare parts, but they've been doing that for a long time any way, nothing too new and exciting. NZXT do try to create new accessories, some fly, some crash; but then the H2 review came out, now they're too petulant to try to win back TTL with their product releases after the H2.

Your point about the lacklastre dust filters, case feet, and powdercoat is a bit of a moot point because you do say "very good case and value for money". Because those problems exists on almost all the cases that are in the price range of the BitFenixs; you'll find these cost saving 'flaws' on Coolermasters, Antecs, NZXTs, even quality makers' budget cases from Lian Li and Silverstone. It's only when you f' it up badly like the NZXT H2, will TTL pounce.

As for the NH-D14, the Silver Arrow battle with the NH-D14 showed the SA hit the wall for 1.45V. Both the SA and D14 were in the margin of error for volts up until that point. But if you CPU is not a heat monster, and the SA fits for example a ASUS Sabertooth build theme, go for it and as a bonus you save five bucks!

If you were wondering, the Noctua NH-U12P was researched and bought before I'd ever heard about TTL or OC3D. Me no sheep yo.

I've typed too much for these kind of points of contention, I don't think I could be bother again for a few months.

 

[tinytomlogan]

Is that you Rasta, TechSmart? Nah, what am I saying.

*Ahem*

About BitFenix, now pay attention, if you did, you'd notice the Alchemy cables are not like Akasa, NZXT, or whatever other cable extensions out there. Here's why the Alchemy cable extensions are a step above the rest, the sleeving termination are inside the plugs of the AWG18 end connectors. Their OEM didn't just whack in whatever length sleeving inside and try to mask it with heatshrink. Unfortunately AWG24-26 connector pins cannot handle the girth of wire and high density sleeving.

At the moment only a handful of mainstream chassis makers are expanding into the accessorising/plug-and-play modding. TTL from his Time To Live Customs modding days, is excited about these developments to open the door for other modders and tweakers. Let say Corsair, they have great fit and finish, but beyond different side panels, they're a bit lacking on the modding front. Lian Li, they do modding friendly cases and spare parts, but they've been doing that for a long time any way, nothing too new and exciting. NZXT do try to create new accessories, some fly, some crash; but then the H2 review came out, now they're too petulant to try to win back TTL with their product releases after the H2.

Your point about the lacklastre dust filters, case feet, and powdercoat is a bit of a moot point because you do say "very good case and value for money". Because those problems exists on almost all the cases that are in the price range of the BitFenixs; you'll find these cost saving 'flaws' on Coolermasters, Antecs, NZXTs, even quality makers' budget cases from Lian Li and Silverstone. It's only when you f' it up badly like the NZXT H2, will TTL pounce.

As for the NH-D14, the Silver Arrow battle with the NH-D14 showed the SA hit the wall for 1.45V. Both the SA and D14 were in the margin of error for volts up until that point. But if you CPU is not a heat monster, and the SA fits for example a ASUS Sabertooth build theme, go for it and as a bonus you save five bucks!

If you were wondering, the Noctua NH-U12P was researched and bought before I'd ever heard about TTL or OC3D. Me no sheep yo.

I've typed too much for these kind of points of contention, I don't think I could be bother again for a few months.

[Hands a gold star]

 

[marsey99]

dude, its the tc14, to go with the d14 and ifx14

looks good, and for the benchmarkers who live and die by every last C this looks like the new daddy. cant help but thing that price is high tho tbh :| i only paid £40 for my ifx14 inc shipping, no way 2 fans are worth another 40/50 quid

i think they have missed a trick with those top plates, i mean why not go 2 tone on there with the embossed name in a second colour and the rest all the same? baby blue text on the top of those fins all white would

be sex in the nurburgrig :thumb: