Phanteks Eclipse P400 Review
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WYP
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I'm going to agree with Tom here.
I would go and buy this case right now if i could fit my AIO in the top. Would have been perfect for my Gaming PC as I do use an R9 Fury X regularly. The ability to support a radiator on the top is something that really should have been there, would have made it an almost perfect case.
If my CPU cooler was a 240mm AIO and not a 280 I would have considered this as a mod project.
One idea Tom had was quite good though, since the top is attached with screws why not make a new top? Phanteks could do a Cooler Master Style MasterCase project in the future where multiple cases use the same parts and can be modified/ replaced by the user.
I would go and buy this case right now if i could fit my AIO in the top. Would have been perfect for my Gaming PC as I do use an R9 Fury X regularly. The ability to support a radiator on the top is something that really should have been there, would have made it an almost perfect case.
If my CPU cooler was a 240mm AIO and not a 280 I would have considered this as a mod project.
One idea Tom had was quite good though, since the top is attached with screws why not make a new top? Phanteks could do a Cooler Master Style MasterCase project in the future where multiple cases use the same parts and can be modified/ replaced by the user.
TPC
New member
Yep. When I played around with the radiator orientation I had a Tower cooler which either used fresh cold air coming from the bottom or the warm air from the 295, no in between really.
AlienALX
Well-known member
The difference between the Raven and this case are enormous dude. The Raven has basically an "air floor" and anything in there or on it is going upward lol.
I had two AIOs in my Raven (same as yours). On the right side looking in I had a rad at the top (in the exhaust fan position) and the fan on the right brought the air in for that. On the left side floor I had the rad for the GTX 480 and my temps were excellent because those 180mm fans really do shift some serious air.
If you fitted a 240mm rad to the front of this case and then, let's say, fitted two 120mm fans in the roof blowing air down where is that air going to go? some of it will be sucked out of the back of the case and some will bounce off the back of the top GPU.
It's like I said though, any case these days that doesn't offer a 240mm AIO fitting in the top is doomed to fail. It really should be a 100% requirement in this day and age.
Id like to think it should be a standard now at least when there is no valid reason why not - ie: if its big enough as this is.
As for doomed to fail it wont. It will sell like hot cakes.
AlienALX
Well-known member
Yeah possibly. I still just don't get it though. Why would you put what totally appears to be a double fitting with holes and mesh and everything else but then make it not fit?
It costs £25 less than the Define it mimics, so if they wanted to be competitive with that why didn't they just up the price by a tenner to £75 and add the 10mm of extra metal and plastic it would have taken to make the case slightly taller.
barnsley
born in a.....
IIRC your case does not support a 240 rad, right?
While having the holes in the case is a bit of a fail (should have just not bothered with it at all IMO), I still don't think that its that much of a deal. Not everyone wants/needs a 240 AIO. Hell, if you only slightly know what you're doing you can build a quiet, cool air cooled PC. Its no worse of an issue than it is with the NZXT case.
Its going after the NZXT Source 340, not the so much the Define IMO.
AlienALX
Well-known member
IIRC your case does not support a 240 rad, right?
Yeah it does. It would suffer the same problem as this case if you did put one in there though.
Obviously my case was designed as a package and to work with the factory cooler they put in there but right now I've managed to cram in quite a lot of hardware and have it all run nice and cool
Due to the trapezoidal shape I can fit both my Fury X in position 1 (right side floor pretty much) another one above it in position 2 and then a 120mm fan above both of those that is aimed directly at the CPU AIO in the back.
But that's beside the point really. My computer as a whole was designed as a whole, cooling and all.
barnsley
born in a.....
Have you ever ran a case with a 240 rad in the front though?
AlienALX
Well-known member
Nope and I wouldn't. I always put the rad in the roof (Corsair H100) and used the front fan mounts to bring in air for the GPUs and CPU.
I'm guessing that CPU temps would be pretty good if you did. Problem then is how to get fresh air to the GPUs. Especially given nearly every one AIO cools their CPU but not GPU.
Me? I've got AIOs on pretty much everything you can fit one to
TPC
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https://youtu.be/YCZ5iP5cu8g?t=13m33s
I know he's not that popular around here. But the point stands.
I know he's not that popular around here. But the point stands.
jimma47
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I really like it - but yeah the silver was deserved. Similar penalties were given to the Nano S and the 400C could have been amazing as well. All of which are still very good.
Most of these will end up with a front mounted AIO and a single GPU.
Would love this in white with a PRO-M top panel and mounting bracket or just the extra few mm and offset.
The only thing I'd say is that looking at the rear I/O cutout - the space between it and the top panel really is the indicator that AIOs were never a consideration there.
That's ok - their choice. They won't be the first or last manufacturer to gimp a product to push people towards a costlier alternative.
Shame though - it could have been brilliant.
Most of these will end up with a front mounted AIO and a single GPU.
Would love this in white with a PRO-M top panel and mounting bracket or just the extra few mm and offset.
The only thing I'd say is that looking at the rear I/O cutout - the space between it and the top panel really is the indicator that AIOs were never a consideration there.
That's ok - their choice. They won't be the first or last manufacturer to gimp a product to push people towards a costlier alternative.
Shame though - it could have been brilliant.
Dark NighT
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Given how popular all in one liquid coolers are, i think you'd be suprised.
Doomslayer
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Why is Jay not very popular on here, I think he does know what he is talking about yes he can be a bit blunt on things but i don't blame him when you have to keep telling people the same thing over and over i can understand why he gets pi**ed off.
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I don't like this at all yes i know it's cheap but i would still take the higher end cases over this.
Kungfugrip
New member
OMG!!
I saw this thing and was like it's going to be perfect.
Phanteks have two ATX Cases, with the same kind of internal layout, that do fit a top mount rad. I have one now in the Enthoo Pro M. The other is the Evolv ATX.
There is NO reason, well no good reason, for that roof to be that way. I really would of liked a quieter case, then the Pro M and in white no less. Phanteks, you disappointed on this one over a few millimeters?
I don't have an award like Tom (And he hinted a mighty swing if you make the change), so the only thing I can offer is, I will buy one if you change the roof and the price is still reasonable. I will post it and prove I bought it. How's that?
I am even more confused, the Enthoo pro is around the same price? Maybe LESS? IT Supports a rad in the roof?!?!? ARGH.... Way to really blow it....
I saw this thing and was like it's going to be perfect.
Phanteks have two ATX Cases, with the same kind of internal layout, that do fit a top mount rad. I have one now in the Enthoo Pro M. The other is the Evolv ATX.
There is NO reason, well no good reason, for that roof to be that way. I really would of liked a quieter case, then the Pro M and in white no less. Phanteks, you disappointed on this one over a few millimeters?
I don't have an award like Tom (And he hinted a mighty swing if you make the change), so the only thing I can offer is, I will buy one if you change the roof and the price is still reasonable. I will post it and prove I bought it. How's that?
I am even more confused, the Enthoo pro is around the same price? Maybe LESS? IT Supports a rad in the roof?!?!? ARGH.... Way to really blow it....
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Feronix
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Don't know where you live but in the UK the P400 costs between 50 and 60 quid while the windowed Enthoo Pros start from £90.
You can get the M for £59.....
Feronix
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Tbf that's mostly the same on the inside and seems to fit a radiator in the roof. You should get one in for review :lol:
I like the colour scheme. Other than that it just looks like a Fractal with a PSU shroud lol.
Thanks as ever for the review
If only the Define S had a PSU shroud
