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S_I_N
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I found a driver set that allowed DP use but then later it stopped working. This was prior to the recent release which occurred after I made the trade. But in retrospect AMD has AFAIK never had DP issues as they rely heavily on them for eyefinity usage. And I made another deal for another 6950 so I'll be xfired and be way above what my single 570 could do.
Sin your problem might be a cheap HDMI cable! Cheap cable can have bandwith problems....
Monster Cable is on the cutting edge of cable design, this is the specs on their current top end consumer cable..
http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=6396
480/600Hz -- check
4K x 2K -- check
8 - 16 bit color-- NO CHECK !!!!
Monster Cable is on the cutting edge of cable design, this is the specs on their current top end consumer cable..
http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=6396
480/600Hz -- check
4K x 2K -- check
8 - 16 bit color-- NO CHECK !!!!
From what I understand , if your monitor is like modern HD TVs..
On the input side,60Hz is for regular HD , and 120Hz is only for 3D(60Hz for each eye). You never really get to use 120Hz, because the only thing that can output the proper signal(60+60) is a 3D blu-ray player.
Have you tried playing a game with it set to 3D. Maybe it will tell the monitor to accept 60+60, which might be the only way you actually get 120Hz. You might have to set up 3D in the control panel for the drivers to put out the 60+60 signal when it see your monitor is 120Hz capable, and just turn off 3D effects , to force the driver to render the same image for both eyes for 2D 120Hz.
I'm not sure if that will work or if they designed them for 60Hz 2D and 120Hz 3D. Like a sick V-Sync defult, built in
Nvidia's 3D vision manual page 43 says:
>> Make sure you have used the DVI cable that was shipped with
your 3D Ready 120Hz LCD display. This is a dual-link cable and
3D Vision will not operate without it.
It's a shame really if this is the case, because it's false advertizing "120Hz Monitor", we all know modern video cards render more frames than what they display, and 120Hz monitors should let us view more of them, but I don't think this is the case.
might want to check on this in your monitor manual.
On the input side,60Hz is for regular HD , and 120Hz is only for 3D(60Hz for each eye). You never really get to use 120Hz, because the only thing that can output the proper signal(60+60) is a 3D blu-ray player.
Have you tried playing a game with it set to 3D. Maybe it will tell the monitor to accept 60+60, which might be the only way you actually get 120Hz. You might have to set up 3D in the control panel for the drivers to put out the 60+60 signal when it see your monitor is 120Hz capable, and just turn off 3D effects , to force the driver to render the same image for both eyes for 2D 120Hz.
I'm not sure if that will work or if they designed them for 60Hz 2D and 120Hz 3D. Like a sick V-Sync defult, built in
Nvidia's 3D vision manual page 43 says:
>> Make sure you have used the DVI cable that was shipped with
your 3D Ready 120Hz LCD display. This is a dual-link cable and
3D Vision will not operate without it.
It's a shame really if this is the case, because it's false advertizing "120Hz Monitor", we all know modern video cards render more frames than what they display, and 120Hz monitors should let us view more of them, but I don't think this is the case.
might want to check on this in your monitor manual.
S_I_N
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this monitor does not support nvidia 3d it has its own 3d built in (another reason why AMD wins on this one more)
Basically in the control panel for AMD and Nvidia when hooked up HDMI it says maximum supported refresh is 60hz on DP it say 120Hz I have tried with several HDMI cables no change but truly mate i have read somewhere it said HDMI only supports 60Hz and I'm 99% certain it pertained solely to this monitor.
Basically in the control panel for AMD and Nvidia when hooked up HDMI it says maximum supported refresh is 60hz on DP it say 120Hz I have tried with several HDMI cables no change but truly mate i have read somewhere it said HDMI only supports 60Hz and I'm 99% certain it pertained solely to this monitor.
you are right sir!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Version_1.0_to_1.2
seems a quick history lesson on HDMI shows the standard locked in on 60Hz very early on with version 1.0
in later versions extra bandwidth was added for higher resolutions and color depth
DP has self clocking lanes so may be the only way to get 120ZHz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Version_1.0_to_1.2
seems a quick history lesson on HDMI shows the standard locked in on 60Hz very early on with version 1.0
in later versions extra bandwidth was added for higher resolutions and color depth
DP has self clocking lanes so may be the only way to get 120ZHz
S_I_N
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finally found the review i read about the 120Hz only being delivered thru DP it was on a pc monitor review site. I read so many reviews before I plopped down the $$ for what i do (3D wasnt a major factor as 120Hz was) its an awesome monitor no doubt. I can see and feel the difference between 120 and 60Hz more see than feel but its there. Now hopefully the postal service delivers my second 6950 today and i can push it to the hilt lol currently getting 57FPS average in BF3 lows are about 45 highs hitting 65 seen 68 a time or three but not consistent enough to count it lol.
Um 3d blu ray is not 120Hz, it's 48Hz (at 1080p anyway)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc
And monster cables are a scam, I used to work for a big box retailer and they are about 800% markup and for current technology make 0% difference to the viewing experience
S_I_N
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well the results are in I have double and sometimes trippled my fps in BF3 I'm now averaging 115FPS with my xfired 6950's with spikes up to 160FPS prior to this I averaged 55fps with 65 spikes. single 6950 was about the same as my 570 the only thing i hate is the extra heat it dumps in my case still trying to sort out getting it out. I'm hitting 39idle temps but also summer has returned from its vacation abroad so its most likely a combo of the 2 raising my temps. as i type this I look at task bar gpu1 38c gpu2 37c cpu 39c
but I love the perormance bonus I may try unlocking them to 6970's but with this good of performance i wonder why.
also crysis 2 took a double leap in fps as well
also crysis 2 took a double leap in fps as well
KING_OF_SAND
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yeaaaa...
Im rolling with a gtx580 now. NVIDIA FTW.
Im rolling with a gtx580 now. NVIDIA FTW.
24fps for each eye is the only way I would want 3D Blu-ray to be.
I 100% believe that you believe monstor cable is a scam, besides the cousin of my uncles best friend's neighbor is a pig farmer, so I believe his opinion on the matter.
But if you would like to have a logical convorsation on the subject, I would be happy to listen to what you have to say on the matter.......
KING_OF_SAND
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I use monster and will NEVER go back to a cheep $20 cable again. Not only is the build quality through the roof, but the bandwidth of the cable is noticeable as well. The only way you will not notice it is if you are watching on a cheap ass TV. I on the other hand have a $3000 plasma from Samsung (600hz, 6,000,000:1 Cr) I had a cheap dynex and it looked great. Then I got a $70 4' Monster and my jaw dropped. colors were more vibrant, picture was smoother and crisper, and the occasional shuddering I got from my dynex no longer existed. The dynex cable was fine BTW I had 6 of them and all performed the same.
This is likely because you were expecting (or at least hoping after having dropped that much on a cable) to see an improvement in technology.
Studies have shown that by showing groups of people the exact same image in 2 different rooms, but telling them one is HD with a lot of HD marketing around the TV and leaving the other TV in a bare room and telling them it is HD then the subjects will say the "HD" image is a lot better.
if a £70 HDMI cable was really so much better than the £5 one then they would cost more than £5 to buy in (which I know for a fact they do)
I have some gold plated SATA cables for sale, do you want them guys, they'll really help you boost your data transfer rates
KING_OF_SAND
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This is likely because you were expecting (or at least hoping after having dropped that much on a cable) to see an improvement in technology.
Studies have shown that by showing groups of people the exact same image in 2 different rooms, but telling them one is HD with a lot of HD marketing around the TV and leaving the other TV in a bare room and telling them it is HD then the subjects will say the "HD" image is a lot better.
if a £70 HDMI cable was really so much better than the £5 one then they would cost more than £5 to buy in (which I know for a fact they do)
I have some gold plated SATA cables for sale, do you want them guys, they'll really help you boost your data transfer rates
LOL, you clearly have never seen anything on a quality TV then. When you have 600hz and want the smoothest picture, a $5 cable does not do the job. All I got what occasional ghosting, some stuttering, and random contrast drops. They were VERY noticeable on ALL of my cheap HDMI's and belive me, i have a lot of them. BTW 2 of the cheap ones were 1.4a which is the same as my monster. The data rate is not faster but cleaner. just because it is digital does not mean all digital cables are the same, 1 and 0 can be lost or corrupt through transfer of a bad or CHEAP cable in this case.
