NZXT Switch 810 vs Xigmatek Elysium [Poll]

[threedee]

At the moment i'm leaning towards 810.

What you say ? 810 or Elysium ?

#EDIT1# Also include reasons why. I chose 810, my reason would be ability to disassemble drive cage on 810. Also i wanted as big a window as possible...

 

[alpenwasser]

Without knowing exactly what your needs are, it is difficult to give sound advice on this. I have an Elysium, and although it has is deficiencies, it fits my needs very well (server with lots of HDD's mounted in 5.25" cages).

The best advice I can give is to have a look at Tom's review of both the Elysium and the 810 and then deciding for yourself.

I'd be happy to tell you anything you need to know about the Elysium that's not in the vids. But a precise answer requires a precise question

Having said that, by all accounts I've read and seen, the 810 seems to be a very good case.

EDIT: Just saw your other thread, which makes this answer kind of irrelevant. But I'll leave it for posterity.

 

[threedee]

Well, Tom nearly invented "diamond" award for 810

My main concern is i have pumptop res and it didnt quite fit anywhere in my temp build.

Initially it was supposed to be a wallmount build, hence the "beautiful" version of pump RES (edit: not "rad"). If i mount rad on the bottom i'm at a loss as to where to put pumpres combo...

All the bits are in my sig...

Also, as for 810... i have a big'ish PSU so floor space is really limited...

 

[alpenwasser]

Well I can tell you that the Elysium has ample space for watercooling. It really is very cavernous.
However, rad mounting is a bit hindered by the PSU. If you want to mount a 280 rad in the top, you cannot have a PSU there without some serious modding.

If you have the PSU in the bottom, you probably could fit a radiator in there as well, but you definitely would have to make some additional cutouts.

Sanest solution is to mount the second 280 rad into the 5.25" bays with the first radiator at the top and the PSU at the bottom. If your radiators are less than 146mm wide, they should fit, but you're going to have to improvise a bit with the mounting.
Large PSU and pump on bottom is not a problem though, I have that setup myself.

 

[Daitallica]

Hi I'm interested in getting a Xigmatek elysium so I can make my first custom loop, and was wondering if you could give me some advice.

If I were to put a 480 push/pull in the front would I be able to put a 360 push/pull in the roof ? (60mm rads with 25mm fans)
where could I put my hard drives, 1x 3.5 1x 2.5 ?

I'm new to all this watercooling stuff, well custom loops anyway.

Thanks for any and all info

 

[tinytomlogan]

Ugh I actually hate the elysium. so cheaply made and so many design faults they have still not fixed.

LAZY.

 

[Daitallica]

Don't know if you've seen a comment I did on the review thread :
http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=34629&page=4

but

"I want to make my first custom loop and would really like at least a 480 & a 360 in push/pull

What case would you recommend in this price range that will outperform watercooling out of the box?

I suppose I could go to £230 for a case as long as I catch the wife on a good day that is haha

I don't really want to be modding the case either

Thanks for any info"

 

[Dark NighT]

That is indeed lazy, you would think almost 2 years later they would have brought out a revised version.

 

[alpenwasser]

Hi I'm interested in getting a Xigmatek elysium so I can make my first custom loop, and was wondering if you could give me some advice.

If I were to put a 480 push/pull in the front would I be able to put a 360 push/pull in the roof ? (60mm rads with 25mm fans)
where could I put my hard drives, 1x 3.5 1x 2.5 ?

I'm new to all this watercooling stuff, well custom loops anyway.

Thanks for any and all info

Do you really need a 480 and a 360 in push/pull? What components do you intend to run on your loop?

The reason I originally got the Elysium was because I needed a shitload of 5.25" bays for mounting my Aquadrives X4's, bay res and fan controller. I know water cooling HDD's is absolutely unnecessary, but I have my reasons for using these things, however that's wildly off-topic so I'll refrain from writing an essay on that one here .

Back then there were no cases which had anywhere near that amount of 5.25"'s at that price point. There were one or two Lian Li's (PC-80 I think), but they were and still are much more expensive (and the Aluminium in those cases is rather thin, so they're pretty flimsy and rather unsuited for mounting something like an Aquadrive, let alone several).

Having had the Ely for a good while now I can tell you this: I only recommend it if you really need a ton of 5.25" bays. The core chassis is sturdy enough to not buckle under the enormous weight I put in it, but all the stuff TTL mentioned in his review is still there (aside from the grommet for the second CPU cutout, which is now mounted). The one thing that has really annoyed me are the flimsy side panels which are an absolute pain to mount back on.

But the decision is of course yours. So, regarding your radiator question: I have a 60mm thick 360 with one side of fans in the roof. Mounting another set of fans for push/pull would not be possible for me because it would overlap with my motherboard (an Asus P8P67, which has the 8 pin right at the top of the PCB ) for about 10 mm.
From my roof radiator to the beginning of the 5.25" bays it's about 60 mm (with the roof radiator's outlets on the opposite side).
The 5.25" bays themselves are about 140 mm deep, and depending on how your radiator in the bays is mounted it will stick out of the front into the bezel for maybe another 20 mm or so (this might vary depending on your mount).

So any push/pull in the front will not overlap with a 360 in the roof as far as I can tell.
However, a 480 in the bays might actually not fit without some modding. The bays themselves are about 520 mm in height, and you have about 20 mm padding on the top and on the bottom. So if you mount the radiator so that the fans line up with the 5.25" bays, your end tanks might not fit.

Regarding HDD's: If you really got a 480 to fit into the front, the HDD's would require some improvization/modding. I'd suggest either the back of the M/B tray or the case bottom. But a 3.5" on the M/B tray might be tricky, and on the case bottom you might have your pump (and your PSU). You'd have to try this out for yourself, see where they fit best and then design some sort of custom mount.

The Switch 810 really is a good (better) alternative to the Elysium I think, and it's a few bucks cheaper as well (at least where I live). The Coolermaster Storm Strooper and Stryker are others that come to mind (see Orca for what you can do with those), and they cost around 25% less than an Elysium here.

Seeing that this would be your first custom loop you might have overestimated your radiator needs (that's not an insult, just an assumption, which might be wrong ).
If you can cut down your radiator needs, there are a ton of case options a whole lot better than an Elysium that also cost less.

 

[Daitallica]

Its way more than I need, i want the system to be as silent and cool as possible under load

I have a sandy i7 overclocked to 4.8
2 gtx 670's on 680 pcbs overclocked
An asus gog formula V watercoolable

The overclocks will go up if the extra cooling will allow me.

 

[Jojimbo]

Alphacool Monsta (80mm thick) 480mm will fit in the front with in P/P, probably will have to have the in/out at the bottom though. Can't P/P the top with a 60mm rad but that shouldn't matter too much at that point tbh.

 

[alpenwasser]

Its way more than I need, i want the system to be as silent and cool as possible under load

Hehe, since my rig is on 24/7 and sits in my bedroom I have the same tendency . Although looking at what you're intending to cool with it, the overkill seems actually not all that extreme anymore, especially if you're going to increase your overclocks. But again, you might have difficulty fitting a 480 in the front of the Elysium.

EDIT: See above post which was added while I was writing this one

 

[threedee]

I just had an idea about 810. Would fan/rad/fan/rad combo single block fit vertically in the floor front of 810 if i remove cages ? Rads are 280 phobya g-changers, which makes that block apprx 200x150mm cross section...

 

[alpenwasser]

I just had an idea about 810. Would fan/rad/fan/rad combo single block fit vertically in the floor front of 810 if i remove cages ? Rads are 280 phobya g-changers, which makes that block apprx 200x150mm cross section...

From what I understand correctly, you're talking about a multiple rad/fan sandwich?

In that case I suggest this reading material.

 

[Daitallica]

I just had an idea about 810. Would fan/rad/fan/rad combo single block fit vertically in the floor front of 810 if i remove cages ? Rads are 280 phobya g-changers, which makes that block apprx 200x150mm cross section...

Are you taking into consideration your gpu's length?

Irrelevant after reading the previous link haha

 

[threedee]

@alpenwasser: I'm not concerned about the performance,
@Daitallica: ... but physical fitting.

I know that my sandwitch works fine, i'm concerned if it will fit upright in front with cages out in Switch810...

#EDIT1# The gtx480 is 270mm long.