Nvidia's RTX 4090 Ti heatsink design has leaked - It's Massive!

[WYP]

Expect much better VRAM cooling with Nvidia's RTX 40 series.



Have a look at Nvidia's leaked RTX 4090 Ti heatsink.

 

[KingNosser]

Wont be long until they are out then if they have already started mass production, not long at all, i'd say do not buy a card now at all just wait and see first.

 

[Piskeante]

all the RTX line up "top of the line" begining on 3080ti and up (rtx 3090 and 3090ti) is just a disaster in terms of price per fps as shown in the recent videos of Hardware unboxed.

The price to performance ratio is really bad. RX 6900 and RX 6950XT is much better in comparison.

IF the price is above the actual features, it will be a disaster like the actual line up. Nvidia always abuses of high prices because people are a bit "ya know boi".
Do not buy this cards. You will not get them at MSRP either, but at scalping prices, so who cares???

 

[meuvoy]

Prices are almost somewhat reasonable now, I made sure to buy mine, it's being delivered today, I won't wait again just for these new cards to prove they are 2x as powerful but 8x as efficient at mining and bring back all the miners to the GPU market.

I know I can play modern games very well now, if those cards are actually well priced and perform as good as the rumours suggest I might buy an RTX 40 late next year but more probably i'll wait for RTX 50, and hope it comes with better power comsumption.

Even if 30 series drops in price when 40 series launch I will still be happy, at least I guaranteed mine instead of hoping for better prices.

 

[AlienALX]

all the RTX line up "top of the line" begining on 3080ti and up (rtx 3090 and 3090ti) is just a disaster in terms of price per fps as shown in the recent videos of Hardware unboxed.

The price to performance ratio is really bad. RX 6900 and RX 6950XT is much better in comparison.

IF the price is above the actual features, it will be a disaster like the actual line up. Nvidia always abuses of high prices because people are a bit "ya know boi".
Do not buy this cards. You will not get them at MSRP either, but at scalping prices, so who cares???

AMD are still royally taking the pee.

Three days ago my buddy who sold his rig about two years back called me asking about modern gear.

I said "tbh dude I would get a 6800xt. It's far cheaper than the 3080 and for what you will need you won't need RT".

I then felt like a total mug when he started showing me prices. He's in the US btw. All of the Radeons were over priced to the point where it totally wasn't worth it. In the end he bought a 3080 Vision for about $850.

All he really wants to do is play PUBG with us now that he's single again.

AMD are meme at this point. You'd think they would actually want new customers and gain market share but they seem content being meh.

 

[KingNosser]

Well on scan atm it's £100 cheaper but regional pricing is always a weird thing we seem to pay 1-1 on the numbers, but i think EU has it worse tbh.

I'd personally wait if i was buying now as the current ones either have to come down in price or the new stuff is going to go up in price and i think we know which is more likely but can hope all the same.

I think Intel are kinda screwed if Nvidia is coming out so soon they must just be wanting to get a head start on early sales and amd sure want to see their prices i'd just prefer them to compete properly.

msrp of the 6800XT was meant to be $680 sure not seen it.

Still mine cost $0 so while i'm keen on amd these days it most likely explains why, but i'd still have tried to get the card i have either way

 

[AlienALX]

I just looked on OCUK.

£818 was the cheapest 6800XT.
Cheapest 3080 10gb was £829.

You'd be high to buy the Radeon. I don't care what arguments people are making about AMD because they are lacking hardware features. Period. As such then like back in the Physx days they should be far cheaper. Not the same (£11 is irrelevant).

You can't enter the discussion with a GPU you paid £0 for. I'm not being rude by saying that btw. It's an £818 GPU minimum (Sapphire Pulse, their cheapest card).

I can absolutely guarantee if you wanted a GPU and had that much to spend you totally *would not* buy the Radeon.

The fact that on the other side of the pond the Nvidia is even cheaper than the Radeon just makes it more hilarious.

AMD can GTF.

 

[KingNosser]

I was always going to go amd this time around.

I don't disagree on price, but your mostly wrong on everything else. I have most DXR games they all play fine, so while your all banging on about dlss try turning it off and see how it runs, amd have fsr rsr fsr2 that argument is getting old amd are catching up, they just dont have the vast staff that Intel or Nvidia do and up until now neither the cash to do it.

FSR2 is so on point with dlss they might as well be the same thing.

 

[Piskeante]

Prices are almost somewhat reasonable now, I made sure to buy mine, it's being delivered today, I won't wait again just for these new cards to prove they are 2x as powerful but 8x as efficient at mining and bring back all the miners to the GPU market.

I know I can play modern games very well now, if those cards are actually well priced and perform as good as the rumours suggest I might buy an RTX 40 late next year but more probably i'll wait for RTX 50, and hope it comes with better power comsumption.

Even if 30 series drops in price when 40 series launch I will still be happy, at least I guaranteed mine instead of hoping for better prices.

Mining will die once ETH goes PoS and Nvidia , AMD and Intel will have to sell their cards with way low msrp because miners are not going to buy them. Instead in just about 6 months they will begin dumping hard their gpus and you´ll be able to buy any RTX 30 series even in warranty at 50% MSRP.

Believe me. Mining is dead. Don't take mining into account while considering buying a GPU. Prices will go to the floor once ETH mining dies.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

I just looked on OCUK.

£818 was the cheapest 6800XT.
Cheapest 3080 10gb was £829.

You'd be high to buy the Radeon. I don't care what arguments people are making about AMD because they are lacking hardware features. Period. As such then like back in the Physx days they should be far cheaper. Not the same (£11 is irrelevant).

You can't enter the discussion with a GPU you paid £0 for. I'm not being rude by saying that btw. It's an £818 GPU minimum (Sapphire Pulse, their cheapest card).

I can absolutely guarantee if you wanted a GPU and had that much to spend you totally *would not* buy the Radeon.

The fact that on the other side of the pond the Nvidia is even cheaper than the Radeon just makes it more hilarious.

AMD can GTF.

I agree. If I had £800 to spend on a GPU I wouldn't buy a Radeon. AMD are offering very little reason to buy from them, Nvidia are. Wider array of models, DLSS, RT, better software suite. AMD has slightly lower TDP and more VRAM, neither of which are that big of a deal for my use cases at 1440p. It's just not enough. The 6800XT should be £600. There is no justification for it being £800 other than pure greed and market manipulation.

 

[KingNosser]

Of course it's greed, but nvidia are just as guilty and expect them prices to rise, it's nvidia that is guiding the market, which is why Intel are going to want $700-900 for there cards, you know it's right as that $700 price on the 3080 don't seem to have happened other than on day one.

Yep Nvidia has that slight edge on DXR so yes on price amd need to be lower, but overall it's exagerated in terms of performance look at any of the rasta which is 99% of all games and amd are well up there.

Still you can have 8k gaming with a 3090ti lol

 

[AlienALX]

I was always going to go amd this time around.

I don't disagree on price, but your mostly wrong on everything else. I have most DXR games they all play fine, so while your all banging on about dlss try turning it off and see how it runs, amd have fsr rsr fsr2 that argument is getting old amd are catching up, they just dont have the vast staff that Intel or Nvidia do and up until now neither the cash to do it.

FSR2 is so on point with dlss they might as well be the same thing.

I'm not wrong about anything. The sales figures and everything else totally backs up what I've said.

AMD couldn't catch a cold. There's a very valid reason for that too. A really very easy and simple to understand one -$.

The only reason they got a foot up and sold a single GPU was because of Nvidia's mistakes. That said when they are making so much more than AMD and selling ten times the GPUs one could argue that even when they made a mistake they still lucked out.

If you paid for your GPU and bought a 6800XT at that price (especially now GPUs are sagging the shelves everywhere) you'd be a plum. A total plum.

Fact, 5000 series RX were considerably cheaper than their RTX equivalent. 5700 was £200 less than a 2070.

Take off your rose tinted glasses you put on when you got a free card.

 

[KingNosser]

Nvidia have sold more GPU's for a long time don't see how that proves anything when it comes to performance in general, the price issue is the same for nvidia as amd or anyone.

Plus i'm not trying to sell anything, just stating my viewpoint.

I was going amd months before nvidia even launched i was always going rdna2, it's not rose tinted at all i like my card don't have issues and while i might have lower fps in DXR it's still fully playable at max settings and in everything else AMD are on par and at times are higher.

The whole nvidia is better at everything argument is about to change but i still expect nvidia to sell more cards so while a 3rd party Intel might help reduce prices, i just see Intel getting squeezed out of the market they are trying to enter.

The price while an issue has nothing to do with the cards themselves that is a seperate issue and both are guilty on that otherwise you'd not see the 3090ti cost £1800 you can't possibly say that is value for money or the 3090 so the price isn't imho relevant in the current climate as all GPU's are overpriced all of them the whole stack on both sides.

Take farcry 6 as an example of my card, when i was on the 1700 I was getting 60fps at most at max settings, now with the 5800x i'm getting 90fps great right, but here is the point the game plays and feels exactly the same unless your into competitive gaming in a big way it makes zero difference in terms of playing it. I'm not saying you can't notice the difference between that and 144hz as you can but games are about fun.

That new benchmark on steam ezbench that rapes my card on 1080p i get between 23-26fps avg sure it looks nice, so with UE5 I'll need an upgrade in general to hit the high frame rates even if the games aren't as spicy, you should download that 20gb and see what your up against cause it sure does show the difference that will be needed in the coming years.

 

[AlienALX]

Their products are inferior. And I am not being an ahole, that is just the truth. Like I said, $.

It's a joke to charge the same price or more as a company who are dumping god knows how much into R&D. With Nvidia the price is always going to be stupid. Again, reasons. The GPUs we end up with for gaming are offcasts of what they are spending billions of dollars to create. As such? you are going to pay a luxury tax. I never had an issue with that. As such I have never had an issue buying ATI or AMD GPUs providing they are charging me a relevant price. IE - if I am getting less, which has been the case since AMD took over ATI then I am paying less or they can GTFO.

It's quite simple maths really. AMD, not as good, drivers not as good etc etc etc price not as good. End of.

So to that ends? the very fact I would even consider buying an Nvidia GPU (I'm not, I don't want or need one !) says it all. If I do change my mind? then I am not stupid, I will buy Nvidia.

Which is what has caused AMD's problem. And will continue to be their problem until they fix it. Raja had the right idea. They drove him out with Vega (it was total poo) and then went back to sobbing in the corner eating ice cream.

 

[KingNosser]

Raja was scalped by Intel pretty sure that is the case they needed a guy just like they also got keller involved these people go where the money is, who can blame them.

If the amd cards were at the actual msrp they are a good buy, can agree that you pay a premium for nvidia, remember i've had plenty of their cards as well.

Where it went wrong and i'm not pointing fingers just saying my thoughts is the titan they sold a bunch and people brought them so they after that got greedy it's that simple, so in my view even thou i was lucky enough to win my card i'd have brought it either way and that is cause i'm voting as it's simple I blame nvidia for driving up the prices. I don't mind amd being 2nd or so called lesser but if they had gone bankrupt you'd only have Intel and nvidia and hot dam the prices you'd see then. Have to admit i'm lucky on the drivers these new cards work really well cocidering the older driver i had in the past ATI thou I'd have kept buying if they hadn't got eaten up thou not like nvidia didn't do plenty of that themselves thats just biz.

So yep I don't like any of the prices from any of them, i expect a rise over time but in the last 3 gens the prices have jumped a lot, issue is they will keep doing it.

Still run that ezbench i know you have a few 2080ti's sitting around you need to run that yourself, you card is going to suffer man 2080ti not going to cut it and neither will a 3090ti people on there asking for a looped benchmark so they can use it as a stress test and so the UE5 games when they start fully getting to grips with them we'll all need new GPU's but as it stand no matter what you buy atm it's good enough for any game.

I even said to my friend pick up a 3060ti see i'm not a plum as you stated i have my reasons for my choices, i don't want amd out of the market and i don't want leather jacket man getting any pennys from me when he out right lies saying that a 3080 is twice the performace of the 2080ti that would be like voting for Boris.

 

[Dicehunter]

i don't want leather jacket man getting any pennys from me when he out right lies saying that a 3080 is twice the performace of the 2080ti that would be like voting for Boris.

I've honestly never liked Jensen 1 bit, There's just something about his face that makes me want unite a cast iron skillet with his mug XD

And now that you mention it he does remind me of Johnson, Non stop lies, Hyperbole and a face that looks like a bulldog licking nettles.

 

[KingNosser]

Yep now if the 3080 had been twice the performance and msrp, i could well have changed my mind, but it isn't and it wasn't.

I don't like ego's in general the whole alpha male stuff annoy's me a ton in general, sure don't miss bar work the amount of people you come across, you could use the term Jensens easliy.

So it'll be intresting if he ends up saying the 4080 is ready for 12k and is 3x the power of a 3080, maybe exagerated but he's bound to have a bunch of mumbo jumbo ready.

 

[AlienALX]

ave jumped a lot, issue is they will keep doing it.

Still run that ezbench i know you have a few 2080ti's sitting around you need to run that yourself, you card is going to suffer man 2080ti not going to cut it and neither will a 3090ti people on there asking for a looped benchmark so they can use it as a stress test and so the UE5 games when they start fully getting to grips with them we'll all need new GPU's but as it stand no matter what you buy atm it's good enough for any game.

My cards will "cut it" for at least five years. And no, I am not running a benchmark that isn't what I bought them for. I bought them to game on, and I use them at least four to five nights a week. Both still hit the frame limit of both of my monitors and more, so tbh I don't give a toss about anything else.

I would also strongly imagine that others don't give a toss either, and that is why there are so many for sale now.

Both companies have been riding their luck for years. They've both screwed over the gamers because tbh? we are totally not important to them.

I strongly imagine when your card needs replacing and you have to fork out for one your attitude will totally change. If I wanted one? I could buy one now. I don't, that's the point, because none of them are worth having. None of them will improve games for me, and at no point any time soon will a 2080Ti not "cut it". The 1080Ti still more than cuts it, and it's fookin years old.

If you've been somehow conned into believing that anything will make a difference there is no saving you. UE5? that is a console thing primarily. So of course it will run like hot a55 on a PC games on PC always do.

It's whether you are foolhardy enough to throw money at it, for what? LOL one half decent game every ten fookin years and a pile of forgettable crap in the meantime. What was the last big PC game? Cyberpunk. Not only did that run like hot a55 but underneath it all it was a confused and not very good game. Before that? Crysis Remastered. Wow, what a game that was !!! and before that? the interactive graphical demo that was Metro Exodus. With more unskippable crap in it than game, which took longer to watch than you actually got in gameplay. Even if you completed it you still couldn't skip the boring rubbish.

LOL like I said, let's see how you feel when you have to fork over £800 for a card that doesn't even do everything out there. One big RT game that is actually good and actually runs well will sink AMD.

BTW going back to UE5? you mean that pile of hot turd demo I ran that looked and ran like hot turd?

 

[KingNosser]

EZBench it's new, it'll make your card sweat hard, there will be games from UE5 that your want and your 2080ti and my 6800xt are not going to play them the best it's just how it is.

Games are a preference thou but crysis while looking nice isn't a top teir game never was imho, it's horses for courses end of the day.

yea well that 1080ti is going to suck on that EZbench i'd be suprised if your 2080ti gets close to 20fps, just how it'll be in a while once tech catches up bit like that ultra realistic train station looking so real but running at 7fps at some stage that will be the norm and run at 30fps+

Not all games run like hot ass they are just ported badly when given the effort they run really well look at the recent playstation games they look and play better than the consoles by a mile, the times are changing and the PC is more and more becoming the main platform when companies like Sega are stating so.

True they don't care which is why they are charging more.

end of the day regardless of what you think or feel i'll have got a 6800xt but instead I put the money i had saved for a new 1440p monitor and Rift S if i hadn't won the card i'd simple have saved more to get what "I" wanted see everyones different, plus at the time frame it'll have been a lot more than £800 I'd have to have paid still same outcome.

Well Cyberpunk ran 100% fine for me i'm on the last mission point, not like the crazy bugs the rest of you had. Exodus I've not started yet but to narrow down games that are great over the years isn't just huge AAA games take a simple smaller game like Hades excellent fun all depends on what you like.

 

[meuvoy]

Mining will die once ETH goes PoS and Nvidia , AMD and Intel will have to sell their cards with way low msrp because miners are not going to buy them. Instead in just about 6 months they will begin dumping hard their gpus and you´ll be able to buy any RTX 30 series even in warranty at 50% MSRP.

Believe me. Mining is dead. Don't take mining into account while considering buying a GPU. Prices will go to the floor once ETH mining dies.

Ethereum isn't the only criptocurrency and they've been saying PoS is gonna come for how many months now?

Don't worry I do believe in your statement, I'm just sick and tired of waiting. And I'm also arguing that: "Yes, I do believe in that but we can still be wrong as I was back when RTX 30 lauched..." I can play Metro Exodus at 80fps in 4k with Raytracing now, and actually make use of the VRR tech in my LG OLED TV; and I'm happy for it. I did sell my older GTX 10 card (for more than I paid for it back in 2017), and if RTX 30 really falls to 50% MSRP in the coming months then that's great! I'll take the opportunity to upgrade. Or not, I'm still to see what kind of impact this new card will have in my electricity bill. It is almost 2x as power hungry as my old one.