Nvidia website reveals RTX 20 series pricing and shipping dates

[AlienALX]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDnIoWb44ds

That sums up exactly how I feel. I also agree with him, they definitely cut the resolution on the non RT stuff which they (IMO) did to make non RT look worse. Far worse than it should.

BF5 went from full reflections in RT to absolutely nothing.

 

[AngryGoldfish]

Nah, I'm not. Something broke in me ages ago (you will remember my big confession post lol) and I really just am not very interested. Even if I were? Nvidia have priced me out. So even if I desperately wanted one (and I don't, about to order a big fat bundle for my Xbone) I couldn't afford it any way.

Which is sad. Why? well, I am 45 years old and I have been gaming since Pong. I have always been able to participate in this hobby, yet here I am being priced out. And that sucks, it really does.

If gaming price on PC had not reached critical mass there is a high likelihood I would still be very interested, but this is just daft. And even though I love gaming as much as I do still deep down even I know this is daft. The biggest problem is the Xbone, running 4k better than a PC *edit to add, of equivalent value*. Meaning I have high end gaming for a reasonable price. Exactly 1/3 of the cost of a 2080Ti bought me an entire gaming unit.

But that's my point: Avet is still invested in going through the motions of supporting clever technology at insane prices while you and I are not. You and I have been priced out. Otherwise we'd still be engaged. You've been in this game far longer than I have, and even for me I've become heavily disillusioned and frustrated. But that's materialism in general. A man is never satisfied with stuff, and life never provides what we want. I think it's great you're just sticking to the Bone (geddit?) and enjoying the experience. It's less about the hardware race and more about enjoying video game art. But on the flip side, hardware is art. It's just very, very expensive art, and sadly one of its biggest architects appears to be a douche nozzle who wants to replace mother's breast milk with formula made using Nvidia GPUs.

 

[Excalabur50]

I've done a guestimate for Australian prices and the Ti which I said was going to be a thing at launch but no one agreed with me is going to cost $1650 - $1700 for the MSI trio version which is eye wateringly expensive

 

[hmmblah]

This pricing makes me sick. All my excitement for next gen was crushed when I saw pricing earlier today.

 

[NeverBackDown]

This pricing makes me sick. All my excitement for next gen was crushed when I saw pricing earlier today.

I'm only excited for RayTracing. Could not care less about RTX. It just so happens that's the only thing that is capable of running it well.

 

[reactor_au]

Well if the 2080 can beat the 1080ti performance then it's close enough in price to be a logical buy over the 1080ti

 

[demonking]

Nvida- how can we keep profits up after the mining surge, let's put the prices up by a huge margin.
They think they had overstock of 10 series cards..... What do they think is going to happen with this series?
Let's hope that A. This back fires on them and is a wake up call and B. Intel and AMD take note of what happens and don't try anything like this.
Good luck nvidia, no matter how well it performs, consoles will be releasing the same games with a full system costing less than a gpu alone.
Cannot believe this, prices were already too high

 

[ImprovizoR]

It just so happens that's the only thing that is capable of running it well.

Is it though? I haven't seen any benchmarks. I haven't seen any comparison screenshots either. Wouldn't the smart thing be to wait for those?

 

[demonking]

Is it though? I haven't seen any benchmarks. I haven't seen any comparison screenshots either. Wouldn't the smart thing be to wait for those?

I think the benchmarks will match the expectations in this respect. I expect that the algorithms used to calculate the ray tracing are probably more important and had more development than the hardware itself. I have a feeling that a standard gpu could calculate the Ray tracing just as well if it didn't have pixels to generate and was built to calculate these sort of numbers. My opinion is that this will be like physx, first release required that you bought a physx card but nvidia managed to lower the overhead and increase performance on the gpu so that it could handle it as a software addition apposed to an additional hardware requirement.

 

[Eddie long]

As it has been remarked on previously , it may well be the next generation of graphic interpretation / application , but without a genuine competitor / alternative Nvidia can set there prices and some will pay it

 

[Daiyus]

If RayTracing technology is available to all manufacturers and this is Nvidias hardware solution I wonder how Vega will handle it given the higher computational power those cards have.


Sure, they were disappointing in rasterized games for most people but it might not lose as much performance against the RTX cards as people think, depending on how the RayTracing workload is handled.


Of course I'm somewhat biased/hopeful as I have a Vega 56 (love it) and do actually like the idea of RayTracing, I just won't support this kind of pricing from Nvidia.

 

[SPS]

I'm waiting to read some tech papers from these games before I make an opinion. Part of me doesn't believe these games are using traditional ray tracing and instead just more expensive ray casting techniques, like SSR. We'll see but if it is the former I am quite excited about these cards from a developer POV.

For example in BF5 they showed this scene where the player is standing on a road with puddles on the ground and a car. One minute you are seeing full reflections of fire and all that and a lovely smooth shiny car roof, then they remove it and say "This is how it will look without RTX. Bad isn't it?"

You got a link? I'm intrigued.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Is it though? I haven't seen any benchmarks. I haven't seen any comparison screenshots either. Wouldn't the smart thing be to wait for those?

Considering it took 4 Volta top end cards to do what one RTX 2080ti did you do not benchmarks

 

[WillSK]

So I've just seen a top of the range ASUS Strix (air cooled) 2080 card for pre order on scan for over £1000. Nope I didn't write that wrong a 2080 not even a 2080 Ti

ffs...

 

[Damien c]

So I've just seen a top of the range ASUS Strix (air cooled) 2080 card for pre order on scan for over £1000. Nope I didn't write that wrong a 2080 not even a 2080 Ti

ffs...

Saw that myself and for not a lot more really like £20 or £30 you can get a Gigabyte Windforce 2080Ti.

 

[WillSK]

Saw that myself and for not a lot more really like £20 or £30 you can get a Gigabyte Windforce 2080Ti.

Seems ridiculous.Makes me wonder what ASUS are gonna try and get for the Ti Strix

 

[WYP]

I'm waiting to read some tech papers from these games before I make an opinion. Part of me doesn't believe these games are using traditional ray tracing and instead just more expensive ray casting techniques, like SSR. We'll see but if it is the former I am quite excited about these cards from a developer POV.



You got a link? I'm intrigued.

The Youtube VOD is here.

The BFV showcase starts at 123 minutes in.

 

[SPS]

The Youtube VOD is here.

The BFV showcase starts at 123 minutes in.

Ok well I'm not sure what the moaning is about because you can't do any of those effects well without ray tracing. There's still evidence of SSR and environment cubemap reflections when RTX is off, you just don't get ray traced offscreen dynamic reflections on arbitray surfaces, which you'd never have had anyway so I think people are overreacting a bit here.

Also AFAIK the RTX2070 out performs the 1080ti by quite a bit and is only priced $100 more?