Nvidia reportedly asks retailers to limit sales to GPU miners

[TheF34RChannel]

I think the general idea is to slow sales so that there are still some Nvidia cards available. They don't want them all to sell out or you end up pushing your customers to AMD. At the same time they don't want to make more Pascal cards because they know that as soon as Ampere launches no one will want them and thus retailers end up stuck holding the baby.

Remember, the more cards retailers have the more profit they make at lower prices. The less cards you have the more you would need to sell them for to keep profits up.

All I've done here is read the market and you can soon figure out what's going on.

That's why I think Ampere is close. No inside info this time just intuition.

You're on a roll man!

When looking at all current circumstances the Ampere release points to GTC (ie March). However, GTC isn't the place for consumers card releases if you ask me, which would mean May, but that's too far away and too long to maintain the crippled current market - if that makes sense?

 

[AlienALX]

You're on a roll man!

When looking at all current circumstances the Ampere release points to GTC (ie March). However, GTC isn't the place for consumers card releases if you ask me, which would mean May, but that's too far away and too long to maintain the crippled current market - if that makes sense?

Yup May will leave them like the 200 series when they ended it 4 months before Fermi. No stock at all to sell.

Plus prices right now are literally a complete joke and you'd be pretty crazy to buy now.

Miners will,though, but as I said not nearly as many.

I still think Jen's statement before Xmas was very odd. He's much like Gabe, where he seldom makes statements. It's almost as odd him saying that as Gabe coming out saying HL3 won't be coming out soon. IE - why even say it then, unless you're up to something.

If Ampere isn't coming then A. You didn't need to say anything as silence speaks volumes and B, why even tell us it's called Ampere if it's not coming out?

Lol

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Yup May will leave them like the 200 series when they ended it 4 months before Fermi. No stock at all to sell.

Plus prices right now are literally a complete joke and you'd be pretty crazy to buy now.

Miners will,though, but as I said not nearly as many.

I still think Jen's statement before Xmas was very odd. He's much like Gabe, where he seldom makes statements. It's almost as odd him saying that as Gabe coming out saying HL3 won't be coming out soon. IE - why even say it then, unless you're up to something.

If Ampere isn't coming then A. You didn't need to say anything as silence speaks volumes and B, why even tell us it's called Ampere if it's not coming out?

Lol

Exactly! They can't keep this up without a new release; it'll cost them greatly.

Did Jen say it's called Ampere? I never saw the video, all I know is that obscure sole website mentioning the name. It makes perfect sense to split up the product at titan level but that's another topic.

 

[AlienALX]

Yup definite statement directly from Nvidia.

It was a while ago too, just before Titan V.

Let me tell you why I personally think they've called it Ampere. Feel free to come back to this at any time in the future...

IMO Volta is a shrink of Pascal. However, with Volta they have re-enabled DP. They disabled it for Maxwell, I reckon because it was too hot and heavy like Fermi.

So that is Volta and the Titan V.

They did not want to call their next gaming cards Volta because they won't actually be Volta. What I mean is I reckon Ampere is Volta without DP. Hence the name change, as people expect DP and deep learning from Volta, but DP has never been on anything but Titan and Quadro IIRC.

So Ampere is just a shrink of what we already have - Pascal.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Yup definite statement directly from Nvidia.

It was a while ago too, just before Titan V.

Let me tell you why I personally think they've called it Ampere. Feel free to come back to this at any time in the future...

IMO Volta is a shrink of Pascal. However, with Volta they have re-enabled DP. They disabled it for Maxwell, I reckon because it was too hot and heavy like Fermi.

So that is Volta and the Titan V.

They did not want to call their next gaming cards Volta because they won't actually be Volta. What I mean is I reckon Ampere is Volta without DP. Hence the name change, as people expect DP and deep learning from Volta, but DP has never been on anything but Titan and Quadro IIRC.

So Ampere is just a shrink of what we already have - Pascal.

I take it you say: both Volta and Ampere are Pascal shrinks but both are different development lines? That sounds contradictory to me so I must be interpreting you wrong.

Ampere must be different from Volta because why use chips for the latter with disabled tensor cores? A different design from the get go makes more sense, as you implied as well.

 

[AlienALX]

Volta is full fat. IE - it has DP back that was removed after Kepler.

Ampere has no DP. So it's just shrunken Pascal.

I think that is why they will have different names.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Volta is full fat. IE - it has DP back that was removed after Kepler.

Ampere has no DP. So it's just shrunken Pascal.

I think that is why they will have different names.

Thanks for the clarification!