Nvidia reportedly asks retailers to limit sales to GPU miners
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TheF34RChannel
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Bold text: isn't that enough? It is for me. Checked EVGA and a decent card costs just shy of €900 - not that any other than the even more expensive FTW3 are in stock...
I'm weary of prices never coming down again even if RAM gets sorted and cryptocurrency crashes. Don't think the shareholders will let them.
NeverBackDown
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TheF34RChannel
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I'm curious what you guys would do in the current atmosphere: I'd really like to be back in the Ti cycle. So I either bite the exorbitant priced Pascal Ti bullet and hop onto Volta/Ampere Ti, or get the non Ti and maybe hop onto its Ti when it comes. Often I can do with more FPS and that'll get worse, and I'm not one for trading in highest settings, I admit. But these prices... And zero availability... It can't be anything other than too much. Whatever it will be I'm in no hurry if that helps.
MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Aero OC is pretty well priced compared to the rest. Its using reference design and similar cooler but if you watercool or have some aftermarket cooler it should clock nicely.
TheF34RChannel
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I have none of those sadly. Also, I'm opting for a two slot card (EVGA) if any at all because of the sag the heavier 2.5 slot cards likely have.
I may just hold on to my card and see what happens this year; the games I'll play this year won't be too demanding it seems.
Well the MSI aerocool is as close to founders edition you will get, and factory overclocked. Its also the cheapest one. Downside is that it uses an exhaust cooler so might be on the loud side.
One thing the founders and this card are good at however, is very little to zero sag.
TheF34RChannel
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Oh gosh an air blower, I didn't realise that, that's a definite no go. I appreciate the suggestion though, thank you!
AlienALX
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Titan Xp Star Wars or wait. I think Ampere is a lot closer than Nvidia have led us to believe.
Look at UK outlets. Barely any Ti in stock and the ones that are cost £50 less than Xp Star Wars. Also, Scan are listing lots of Ti as "EOL".
I think Jen lied just to get people buying over Xmas. Ampere is close.. Very close IMO.
Look at UK outlets. Barely any Ti in stock and the ones that are cost £50 less than Xp Star Wars. Also, Scan are listing lots of Ti as "EOL".
I think Jen lied just to get people buying over Xmas. Ampere is close.. Very close IMO.
Dicehunter
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March's GTC is not long away, The new cards will be on shelves the day of GTC I'm betting.
TheF34RChannel
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Very good points lads! Consider me cured ha ha! I'll wait for Ampere/Volta and if not in March then maybe in May, and then later I can hop back and stay in the Ti cycle.
EVGA itself also has no stock apart from the odd model. Which I find kind of suspicious...
Kaapstad
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EVGA with the 10 series have been very disappointing.
You can buy a Titan Xp for less than one of their watercooled Kingpin 1080 Ti cards.
The Titan is both faster and better value for money, something you could not say a few years ago.
AlienALX
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IMO production has started. And did a while ago.
Jen was faced with a situation. Basically do you not say anything or tell the truth (IE Ampere is coming) and face a slump in Xmas sales, or, do you lie and say Pascal isn't going anywhere soon? and then get those sales?
Typical salesman borrox IMO. Fact is Ampere is cheaper to make/higher success rate and that is why they won't hang onto a tech for too long. Same with Intel, even when AMD were crap they just carried on ploughing out shrinks. Why? because shrink means less materials meaning cheaper.
Which is good and bad I suppose. Good because it means Nvidia won't stop, but bad because of the prices they are charging ( take IMO).
Jen was faced with a situation. Basically do you not say anything or tell the truth (IE Ampere is coming) and face a slump in Xmas sales, or, do you lie and say Pascal isn't going anywhere soon? and then get those sales?
Typical salesman borrox IMO. Fact is Ampere is cheaper to make/higher success rate and that is why they won't hang onto a tech for too long. Same with Intel, even when AMD were crap they just carried on ploughing out shrinks. Why? because shrink means less materials meaning cheaper.
Which is good and bad I suppose. Good because it means Nvidia won't stop, but bad because of the prices they are charging ( take IMO).
TheF34RChannel
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Agreed, the kingpin series are ludicrously priced this round. Fortunately for me, I'm not one for that class. Classified is how high I'll go (had their previous Ti). And yeah, we live in backwards times with what you said about the Xp.
Very plausible my good man! Let's hope so! Will many more for you adopt Ampere or wait it out for the Ti?
When was the last time they announced gamer/consumer cards at GTC though?
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AngryGoldfish
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I feel like I'm the only one struggling to believe that every company earning a lot of money only cares about earning money through any means. The engineers and designers I know (I'm talking about any engineer or designer, not someone working with silicon) have a passion. Sure, it's a job and it pays the bills, but they'd be annoyed to see their product fail to fulfil its original intention. If a guitar builder heard his guitars were never being played and instead were being placed in glass boxes to be viewed by rich snobs, they'd be sad. Would they stop selling to these people? Probably not because it's hard to turn money down. But I believe Nvidia when they say they want gamers to be the focus. And I don't consider it greed what they are doing, not the kind of patriarchal, despicable greed that bankers in Wall Street had before the economic crash in 2009.
SPS
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These days it's probably more like 50 end users for 1 card for gaming and 50 end users for 50 cards for mining lol.
Thinker1974
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At some point the mining market will tank, probably through Government interference looking to regulate (to get their cut) or just banning to prevent money getting out of their reach. When the bubble bursts, it will be gamers that will return to being their main customers, but the damage these prices I think are doing to the platform is quite bad - and may even kill demand in the long run.
I want a new build, but I've put it off until the Ryzen refresh now to see where we are with pricing then, I imagine a lot of people are doing likewise or looking to other platforms.
There are premium prices and where we are now, which is price gauging, a 1080 TI that was selling for £780ish before Xmas is now £900+ and climbing. I'm just hoping the shortage in supply is an indicator that new graphics cards are on the horizon.
I want a new build, but I've put it off until the Ryzen refresh now to see where we are with pricing then, I imagine a lot of people are doing likewise or looking to other platforms.
There are premium prices and where we are now, which is price gauging, a 1080 TI that was selling for £780ish before Xmas is now £900+ and climbing. I'm just hoping the shortage in supply is an indicator that new graphics cards are on the horizon.
TheF34RChannel
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AlienALX
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I think the general idea is to slow sales so that there are still some Nvidia cards available. They don't want them all to sell out or you end up pushing your customers to AMD. At the same time they don't want to make more Pascal cards because they know that as soon as Ampere launches no one will want them and thus retailers end up stuck holding the baby.
Remember, the more cards retailers have the more profit they make at lower prices. The less cards you have the more you would need to sell them for to keep profits up.
All I've done here is read the market and you can soon figure out what's going on.
That's why I think Ampere is close. No inside info this time just intuition.
Remember, the more cards retailers have the more profit they make at lower prices. The less cards you have the more you would need to sell them for to keep profits up.
All I've done here is read the market and you can soon figure out what's going on.
That's why I think Ampere is close. No inside info this time just intuition.
