Nvidia officially reveals their £2,399 Titan RTX

Because we totally have games that are pushing 24gb of VRAM..... not. We are barely capping out 8gb-9gb in almost everything available today that pushes the boundary of gaming graphics.

Sigh....this is just overkill in all forms of the word; and yet, sadly, someone will buy this to "future" proof and be let down 6 months to a year from now when the next card comes out.

Even in a work environment I can't see this being necessary even as a game dev working to make an RTX enabled game... I can see the use of the 2080ti or two of those, but not this thing.

Just my 2 cents!
 
I mean ffs... I just bought a 2080 and that was pushing it for me. This is just mad. This surely can't be a good thing for gamers?
 
I don't understand this product at all, the Quadro RTX 6000 is about £6k but at least that's go full Quadro driver support and is tuned for workstation rendering. This Titan V is basically the same HW as a Q6000 but for a lot less money - which is good - but it doesn't have all of the Quadro 'goodness'.
 
TBH, this product isn't for gamers. It is for those workstation-type workloads, much like the Titan V.

If anything I'd call this a Tensor/RT workstation card, as that is the only way I can see 24GB of VRAM being used. Sadly this card doesn't have good double precision performance, so the Titan V is still the performance leader in that regard.
 
TBH, this product isn't for gamers. It is for those workstation-type workloads, much like the Titan V.

If anything I'd call this a Tensor/RT workstation card, as that is the only way I can see 24GB of VRAM being used. Sadly this card doesn't have good double precision performance, so the Titan V is still the performance leader in that regard.

They're still using 'RTX' branding though whereas the Volta Titan dropped the GTX logo. I'm not disagreeing with you. This new card is surely not aimed at gamers. I'm just saying that Nvidia are seemingly aiming it less far away from gaming than they did with Volta.
 
MONTREAL—Conference on Neural Information Processing Systems—Dec. 3, 2018—NVIDIA today introduced NVIDIA® TITAN RTX™, the world’s most powerful desktop GPU, providing massive performance for AI research, data science and creative applications.

Driven by the new NVIDIA Turing™ architecture, TITAN RTX — dubbed T-Rex — delivers 130 teraflops of deep learning performance and 11 GigaRays of ray-tracing performance.

“Turing is NVIDIA’s biggest advance in a decade – fusing shaders, ray tracing, and deep learning to reinvent the GPU,” said Jensen Huang, founder and CEO of NVIDIA. “The introduction of T-Rex puts Turing within reach of millions of the most demanding PC users — developers, scientists and content creators.

There is your answer.
 
I mean ffs... I just bought a 2080 and that was pushing it for me. This is just mad. This surely can't be a good thing for gamers?

Buying that 2080 was about as good for gamers as this Titan.

You really shouldn't have caved.

I'm not having a go, I just get annoyed when people lack self control. I remember an episode about Walmart in South Park (This way wall mart comes, or something) and after all of the commotion they take people into the centre to the "heart". It's a mirror.

You look in that mirror, what is causing the problem?

The worst part is that game devs will get these cards for sure, and then that means anything less will run games like poo.

Yawn.
 
Buying that 2080 was about as good for gamers as this Titan.

You really shouldn't have caved.

I'm not having a go, I just get annoyed when people lack self control. I remember an episode about Walmart in South Park (This way wall mart comes, or something) and after all of the commotion they take people into the centre to the "heart". It's a mirror.

You look in that mirror, what is causing the problem?

The worst part is that game devs will get these cards for sure, and then that means anything less will run games like poo.

Yawn.

I dunno mate, self control plays a part in almost all purchases. The reality is, need and want are often coagulated by the people who insist they would never do it and complain at the ones that do. In other words, while you could say, 'Why give it to the 2080 hype', you yourself are giving in to the hype of something else. Do you really NEED half of the power of your PC to enjoy gaming? I'm not saying you don't, I'm raising the question that need and want are often misinterpreted by everyone, and we therefore probably shouldn't judge or suspect others of caving in or being materialistic.
 
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Because we totally have games that are pushing 24gb of VRAM..... not. We are barely capping out 8gb-9gb in almost everything available today that pushes the boundary of gaming graphics.

Sigh....this is just overkill in all forms of the word; and yet, sadly, someone will buy this to "future" proof and be let down 6 months to a year from now when the next card comes out.

Even in a work environment I can't see this being necessary even as a game dev working to make an RTX enabled game... I can see the use of the 2080ti or two of those, but not this thing.

Just my 2 cents!


Keep in mind that no Titan was ever a real gaming card. It was more of a jack of both trades between gaming and computing.



But I remember reading posts of some guys here believing it would NEVER cost over 2000 xD
 
It's pretty genius, there will be bunch of people buying this since they want THE BEST.
 
I dunno mate, self control plays a part in almost all purchases. The reality is, need and want are often coagulated by the people who insist they would never do it and complain at the ones that do. In other words, where you could say, 'Why give it to the 2080 hype', when you yourself gave in to the hype of something else. Do you really NEED half of the power of your PC to enjoy gaming? I'm not saying you don't, I'm raising the question that need and want are often misinterpreted by everyone, and we therefore probably shouldn't judge or suspect others of caving in or being materialistic.

I very, very rarely give in to hype. Fallout? yes I can not help myself. That is about it though. Everything I have bought for my PC within the last 4 years has been last gen, with a big fat saving. I don't even remember the last time I bought a brand new "in trend" GPU. Probably the 7970. And I regretted it (it was an oven) so I swapped it for two GTX 480. They were fantastic.

And honestly this whole price situation has indeed been created by us. Let's face it, most people deep down get semi erect when buying something they know that many can't have or afford. Seriously, we have absolutely done this to ourselves.

If people didn't buy these GPUs at these prices then Nvidia would have no choice. Either they would have to drop prices, or, call it a day (if they are not making enough).

It's the same with phones. Most people don't need an Iphone X. In fact, most people don't need or use a very high end phone but get one any way. It's an area where things are virtually identical to new GPUs. It's a self satisfaction thing.

The only high end phones ever worth the high prices, IMO, were Blackberrys. Because they were business orientated and completely secure and stable.

The thing is? phone sales are totally dying off. We've finally reached the proverbial end of the line.

Eventually (once even the totally crazy are priced out) the same thing will happen to GPUs. It's destroying PC gaming though, IMO.
 
I very, very rarely give in to hype. Fallout? yes I can not help myself. That is about it though. Everything I have bought for my PC within the last 4 years has been last gen, with a big fat saving. I don't even remember the last time I bought a brand new "in trend" GPU. Probably the 7970. And I regretted it (it was an oven) so I swapped it for two GTX 480. They were fantastic.

And honestly this whole price situation has indeed been created by us. Let's face it, most people deep down get semi erect when buying something they know that many can't have or afford. Seriously, we have absolutely done this to ourselves.

If people didn't buy these GPUs at these prices then Nvidia would have no choice. Either they would have to drop prices, or, call it a day (if they are not making enough).

It's the same with phones. Most people don't need an Iphone X. In fact, most people don't need or use a very high end phone but get one any way. It's an area where things are virtually identical to new GPUs. It's a self satisfaction thing.

The only high end phones ever worth the high prices, IMO, were Blackberrys. Because they were business orientated and completely secure and stable.

The thing is? phone sales are totally dying off. We've finally reached the proverbial end of the line.

Eventually (once even the totally crazy are priced out) the same thing will happen to GPUs. It's destroying PC gaming though, IMO.

It doesn't matter how much you save necessarily. That's one of the typical materialistic fallacies and excuses we all use.

'Oh, well I waited for a massive sale and got it at a huge discount.' - You still paid £600 for a graphics card

'Oh, I got it second-hand so it's OK.' - You still paid £400 for water cooling parts

'Well, I need it for my business.' - You still paid £700 for a tablet

'It's my passion and hobby and I don't have any other expenses.' - You still paid £5000 on car modifications
 
£600 is as much as I will ever spend on a GPU. That is *my* limit, and where I believe that all value ends.

Water cooling parts? totally different thing. Hardly any one even buys them tbh. You can also do it on the cheap, if you wish, with no ills. I've proven that a few times, with a loop that cost sub £130 all in.

Business is a completely different thing, too. You will always pay for a premium product, and if it performs it's worth it.

Gaming on the other hand is frivolous. It's not something you actually need.

Let's face it, the whole problem here is this "Shut up and take my money" phenomenon we are seeing now. People that grew up in the 90s and noughties really have no idea what hardship is, nor what it feels like to actually go without.

I can tell you now that growing up in the 70s was tough. There was a huge recession, unemployment was crazy and there just wasn't money for you to shut up and hand it over.

What makes me smile is that all of the time Intel were bending people over and rinsing them out they loved it. It took AMD to show them the truth. Stuck on quad cores for a decade because "It's enough for games". Pah, no it isn't. It's just your fancy way of selling us hardly anything for more cash.

I will say this here and now. No game, or games, are worth spending £1500 to play. Especially games made in this day and age. They are bloody awful.

Get an Xbox One X. It does what no PC at the same price can do. People have tried to recreate a PC that can game at 4k at the same value and absolutely failed to push anything over 1080p, even with an add in GPU. Your games will mostly work first time, all of the time, and you won't have to wait for patches and etc.
 
£600 is as much as I will ever spend on a GPU. That is *my* limit, and where I believe that all value ends.

Water cooling parts? totally different thing. Hardly any one even buys them tbh. You can also do it on the cheap, if you wish, with no ills. I've proven that a few times, with a loop that cost sub £130 all in.

Business is a completely different thing, too. You will always pay for a premium product, and if it performs it's worth it.

Gaming on the other hand is frivolous. It's not something you actually need.

Let's face it, the whole problem here is this "Shut up and take my money" phenomenon we are seeing now. People that grew up in the 90s and noughties really have no idea what hardship is, nor what it feels like to actually go without.

I can tell you now that growing up in the 70s was tough. There was a huge recession, unemployment was crazy and there just wasn't money for you to shut up and hand it over.

What makes me smile is that all of the time Intel were bending people over and rinsing them out they loved it. It took AMD to show them the truth. Stuck on quad cores for a decade because "It's enough for games". Pah, no it isn't. It's just your fancy way of selling us hardly anything for more cash.

I will say this here and now. No game, or games, are worth spending £1500 to play. Especially games made in this day and age. They are bloody awful.

Get an Xbox One X. It does what no PC at the same price can do. People have tried to recreate a PC that can game at 4k at the same value and absolutely failed to push anything over 1080p, even with an add in GPU. Your games will mostly work first time, all of the time, and you won't have to wait for patches and etc.

So many points here to agree with, so much right in this whole thread. Its the way that marketing has evolved, Want is now considered the new need. I have always been on the though train of not paying more for a GPU than the cost of a current gen console. £1200 for a GPU (or £1500 if you want an ASUS!) is completely taking the biscuit, especially an early adoption on the tech. 10 gigarays? the next gen will likely double that and then the gen after will be so far ahead that the 2080ti will be meaningless. They are not future proofing themselves when buying these, simply lining themselves up to upgrade again sooner when their shiny new tech is outdated 2 gens later.
 
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