Nvidia has agreed to a preliminary settlement after GTX 970 3.5GB memory fiasco

Nvidia still denies all allegations of wrongdoing

If that were the case they shouldn't have settled then. And just goes to show they really don't care about there consumers when they flat out lie to then get caught and still deny it. It's not like those engineers had no clue what they were doing..
 
If that were the case they shouldn't have settled then. And just goes to show they really don't care about there consumers when they flat out lie to then get caught and still deny it. It's not like those engineers had no clue what they were doing..

Settling isn't a matter of right or wrong, settling is a matter of cost. If running the court case is more expensive than the settlement, you settle.
Admitting to wrong doing would be worse for their reputation than denying it and it would invite follow up lawsuits, them not caring about you as an individual isn't exactly a news flash and applies to every single large company out there, i have no idea why people expect companies to care about their feelings. Whether they knew or not doesn't really matter either. Either they knew and they shouldn't have advertised it as a 4GB card or they didn't know, but should have known. What do i care whether they owe up to it or not.
 
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With their exorbitant pricing they can easily afford to settle as for reputation I think that has been damaged already
 
I know Many with a 970. They are all very happy with their card.

While specs should be correct, it saddens me that so Many people focus on a technicallity. Many angry at NVIDIA does not Seem to have owned a 970 or if they do - they have not den the problem other than when trying to replicate it.
 
970 was still a great card imo, but fact is they neglected to specify vram speeds and volume.

Oh well $30 is $30. inb4 vouchers.
 
Settling isn't a matter of right or wrong, settling is a matter of cost. If running the court case is more expensive than the settlement, you settle.
Admitting to wrong doing would be worse for their reputation than denying it, them not caring about you as an individual isn't exactly a news flash and applies to every single large company out there, i have no idea why people expect companies to care about their feelings. Whether they knew or not doesn't really matter either. Either they knew and they shouldn't have advertised it as a 4GB card or they didn't know, but should have known. What do i care whether they owe up to it or not.

people don't like being lied to. Don't care if they care about our feelings. people will go to a different company if that's the case. We all know they knew it. Your telling me a Chip architect won't know if something like that will happen? You know marketing. They'll do it anyway and then twist it all around to make it seem like an accident. That's standard procedure.
 
Us only.. not that i should be entitled to getting money, i bought my 970 knowing full well its memory spec was different then advertised and i didnt care then either, there was no actual real world proof it had a big effect on performance with games, by the time it started chugging, it was in need of more cuda cores or sli, and to hell with synthetic benchmarks.

Anyway, as for them just saying they havent done anything wrong, well whatever nvidia, its probably not the last mistake you will make and cover up.
 
people don't like being lied to. Don't care if they care about our feelings. people will go to a different company if that's the case. We all know they knew it. Your telling me a Chip architect won't know if something like that will happen? You know marketing. They'll do it anyway and then twist it all around to make it seem like an accident. That's standard procedure.

I doubt the 3.5GB thing had a big impact on their sales because the people who didn't know didn't care and the people who did know also knew that it made no difference.
Of course they knew, i just don't care that they knew. I don't think this falls into the marketing category since everybody knows they knew, this is all about not having to do a recall. The reputation is damaged regardless.
Also congratulations on 10k.
 
I doubt the 3.5GB thing had a big impact on their sales because the people who didn't know didn't care and the people who did know also knew that it made no difference.
Of course they knew, i just don't care that they knew. I don't think this falls into the marketing category since everybody knows they knew, this is all about not having to do a recall. The reputation is damaged regardless.
Also congratulations on 10k.

Didn't even realize I hit 10k:eek:
But thanks^_^
 
The key would have been the ROPs and the cache, not the slower 0.5GB. As much as it was annoying fast 3.5 + slow 0.5 is still 4GB total.
They did advertise the incorrect ROPs though so that would be the basis for the suit.

And yes I'd agree the settlement was pretty much just to save on the legal fees. It's a bit like the vehicle recall formula from that movie you're not supposed to talk about. Cheaper to settle with a 'no wrongdoing' and confidentiality clauses than fight it out.
 
I doubt the 3.5GB thing had a big impact on their sales because the people who didn't know didn't care and the people who did know also knew that it made no difference.
Of course they knew, i just don't care that they knew. I don't think this falls into the marketing category since everybody knows they knew, this is all about not having to do a recall. The reputation is damaged regardless.
Also congratulations on 10k.

That was a lot we know that they knew :mellow:...
 
I didn't even though this was a thing (the lawsuit). It's good though. I thought Nvidia's "apology" was just a slap in the face and I didn't even buy a 970. Worse of all I thought they had actually gotten away with it.

I'm glad that they haven't. Companies, even rich ones, should not be allowed to get away with stuff like this.
 
I'm not that up on the technical details but why didn't they just use 4GB of standard GDDR5 and disable a few cores from the 980 ?

Did they really have to have 512MB that much slower to compensate for fewer cores than the 980 ?
 
I'm not that up on the technical details but why didn't they just use 4GB of standard GDDR5 and disable a few cores from the 980 ?

Did they really have to have 512MB that much slower to compensate for fewer cores than the 980 ?

Because that would have probably meant chopping up perfectly good 980s.

Remember, cards in the same series that are lower down are what would have gone in the bin. Maybe they had issues with the memory addressing on some cores, hence why they chopped off some of the memory functionality?

I still don't believe that this is a 3.5gb card. I mean, it has 4gb of VRAM on it. It's just that the last part of the ram sucks balls, so they put it in to pad it out.

It's not that which annoyed me though, nor was it the fact that they lied. It was their attitude when they got caught, just absolutely disgusting.
 
Because that would have probably meant chopping up perfectly good 980s.

Remember, cards in the same series that are lower down are what would have gone in the bin. Maybe they had issues with the memory addressing on some cores, hence why they chopped off some of the memory functionality?

I still don't believe that this is a 3.5gb card. I mean, it has 4gb of VRAM on it. It's just that the last part of the ram sucks balls, so they put it in to pad it out.

It's not that which annoyed me though, nor was it the fact that they lied. It was their attitude when they got caught, just absolutely disgusting.

This memory fiasco is 1 reason I stay well away from cards that don't use the full chip i.e 970, 1070 etc... ^_^
 
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