Nvidia GTX780 Review
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Bought 2 EVGA GTX 780's and 2 EK-FC Titan blocks. They fit perfectly and are working very well, keeping the GPU's around 42C under load.
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They are working very well, destroys everything at 2560x1440. BF3 getting ~90-100 fps with everything maxed. Overkill really, but bought for benching, initial 3D Mark scores good,sounds very goodhow are they for gaming?
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Both cards are looking good for +1100 MHz core oc's hopefully improve the scores.
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ah fair enough, bench marking only appeals for me when trying to stress the system.
But glad they are awesome for you
The real insightful conclusion is AMD domination.
What nvidia owners fail to see is the not-so-far future that belongs to AMD (gaming wise) .. why ?
The major turn is not because of power (which is greater only in openCL)
but because every single next-gen console has opted for AMD's GCN
architecture which translates that third party game developers will
design games optimised by default for AMD Graphics.
they have clearly stated that by themselves in E3 2013.
Not to mention that windows 8.1 (full windows versions) tablets and notebooks also chosen APUs (A10s and upcoming Kaveri steamroller based cpus & Radeon Gpus).
so.. The market trend is going to AMD in consoles, mobile computers e.t.c
More and more applications and even the very operating system will
evolve around OpenCL instead of Cuda and even Adobe has begun
in her latest CC suite adopting the same strategy.
so nobody will actually care in the next year or two for PhysX and nVidia
not because of lack of power but because of lack of support and optimization issues. AMD's technologies have begun and will be favored.
The console game market has set the rules for pc gaming as well.
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in the future starting with the game Battlefield 4, whenever you see the logo "Gaming Evolved" will mean 100% crossfire scalability.. not to mention sabotage against nvidia that forbids her to release new drivers before the game enters the market. In the future you will see more and more of "AMD ESPIONAGE"))
So .. Remember remember the 5th of november. Its not about power, its about compatibility and support.
What nvidia owners fail to see is the not-so-far future that belongs to AMD (gaming wise) .. why ?
The major turn is not because of power (which is greater only in openCL)
but because every single next-gen console has opted for AMD's GCN
architecture which translates that third party game developers will
design games optimised by default for AMD Graphics.
they have clearly stated that by themselves in E3 2013.
Not to mention that windows 8.1 (full windows versions) tablets and notebooks also chosen APUs (A10s and upcoming Kaveri steamroller based cpus & Radeon Gpus).
so.. The market trend is going to AMD in consoles, mobile computers e.t.c
More and more applications and even the very operating system will
evolve around OpenCL instead of Cuda and even Adobe has begun
in her latest CC suite adopting the same strategy.
so nobody will actually care in the next year or two for PhysX and nVidia
not because of lack of power but because of lack of support and optimization issues. AMD's technologies have begun and will be favored.
The console game market has set the rules for pc gaming as well.
---
in the future starting with the game Battlefield 4, whenever you see the logo "Gaming Evolved" will mean 100% crossfire scalability.. not to mention sabotage against nvidia that forbids her to release new drivers before the game enters the market. In the future you will see more and more of "AMD ESPIONAGE"
)) So .. Remember remember the 5th of november. Its not about power, its about compatibility and support.
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Valsam75, It doesn't actually matter what GPU the consoles have. The XBOX 360 had an ATi X1900 XT equivalent GPU and the Game Cube, Wii and Wii U all had ATi/AMD Graphics. The PS3 had a 7800GT equivalent NVIDIA GPU and it was slower than the X1900 XT present in the XBOX 360.
Logic like you just stated would indicate that if 2 out of the 3 consoles last generation used AMD that most games should be optimised for AMD. Especially if one of those AMD GPU's was the fastest out of all three consoles.
But here we stand, with the GTX 780 and Titan being the fastest single GPU cards available.
Something you need to think about is that as time has gone on the GPU's have moved to a many core GPGPU architecture where compute units have become very generic and similar. NVIDIA has gone for slightly more brawny cores than AMD while AMD has gone for more puny cores but a lot more of them, but even so the architectures are very similar.
What this means is optimising for one architecture or another really doesn't make as much of a difference as it used to. We live in an age now where the top end cards (before 780 and Titan atleast) were within 5% of each other in every game.
And about your OpenCL vs Cuda thing. NVIDIA cards run OpenCL too. That is one of the feathers in NVIDIA's cap, it runs their own CUDA and OpenCL while AMD only supports OpenCL. And the OpenCL performance on NVIDIA cards is very good, especially on the Titan range which has full unlocked double precision floating point.
Another thing to consider is that you degraded PhysX and yet the PS4 and XBOX One will both have PhysX available from NVIDIA. You don't have to take my word for it you can view NVIDIA's own press release for the XBOX One here: http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/Releas...-for-Microsoft-Xbox-One-Game-Console-997.aspx
And IGN covered NVIDIA's announcement for PhysX on the PS4 here: http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/03/07/nvidia-announces-physx-support-for-playstation-4
And about your AMD espionage comments and forced delayed NVIDIA driver releases: Don't be ridiculous.
Logic like you just stated would indicate that if 2 out of the 3 consoles last generation used AMD that most games should be optimised for AMD. Especially if one of those AMD GPU's was the fastest out of all three consoles.
But here we stand, with the GTX 780 and Titan being the fastest single GPU cards available.
Something you need to think about is that as time has gone on the GPU's have moved to a many core GPGPU architecture where compute units have become very generic and similar. NVIDIA has gone for slightly more brawny cores than AMD while AMD has gone for more puny cores but a lot more of them, but even so the architectures are very similar.
What this means is optimising for one architecture or another really doesn't make as much of a difference as it used to. We live in an age now where the top end cards (before 780 and Titan atleast) were within 5% of each other in every game.
And about your OpenCL vs Cuda thing. NVIDIA cards run OpenCL too. That is one of the feathers in NVIDIA's cap, it runs their own CUDA and OpenCL while AMD only supports OpenCL. And the OpenCL performance on NVIDIA cards is very good, especially on the Titan range which has full unlocked double precision floating point.
Another thing to consider is that you degraded PhysX and yet the PS4 and XBOX One will both have PhysX available from NVIDIA. You don't have to take my word for it you can view NVIDIA's own press release for the XBOX One here: http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/Releas...-for-Microsoft-Xbox-One-Game-Console-997.aspx
And IGN covered NVIDIA's announcement for PhysX on the PS4 here: http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/03/07/nvidia-announces-physx-support-for-playstation-4
And about your AMD espionage comments and forced delayed NVIDIA driver releases: Don't be ridiculous.
