Nvidia GTX1080 - The Review

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The latest Nvidia GPU the GTX1080 is finally with us and we put it through our OC3D benchmark suite.


Nvidia GTX1080 - The Review
 
Tom was this done in a closed case or an open test bench?
never mind I just saw its inside the case but was the side on?
 
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Rocking a GTX780 this is very tempting indeed.

However, may I ask if it is possible to include OC scores also?

I'm comparing the 1080 scores with the (better) OC 980ti's and there are hardly any difference at all.

Looking at 2560x1440 resolution, the difference in Bioshock is 3 (three!) FPS and in Tomb Raider it is 6 (six!). As the numbers are in the >100 range we are talking a few percentage points difference. Less than 5% improvement.

To me, that means the 1080 'FE' is identical in performance to the best aftermarket version of the 980ti.

Or am I missing something?

PS: I'm *SO* looking forward to see what the chip can do with a bit more power and a bit more cooling!
 
Rocking a GTX780 this is very tempting indeed.

However, may I ask if it is possible to include OC scores also?

I'm comparing the 1080 scores with the (better) OC 980ti's and there are hardly any difference at all.

Looking at 2560x1440 resolution, the difference in Bioshock is 3 (three!) FPS and in Tomb Raider it is 6 (six!). As the numbers are in the >100 range we are talking a few percentage points difference. Less than 5% improvement.

To me, that means the 1080 'FE' is identical in performance to the best aftermarket version of the 980ti.

Or am I missing something?

PS: I'm *SO* looking forward to see what the chip can do with a bit more power and a bit more cooling!
I can't remember whether Tom ever mentioned it in his early review, but that 980ti overclocked card he had absolutely denominated any other overclocked 980ti I'd ever seen. Like, I don't know how it was that powerful. It must have been in the top 5% of overclockers, not just reaching really high frequencies but actually scaling in equal measure. Maxwell cards scaled oddly—they didn't always scale equally. One 980ti at 1500/8000Mhz could be vastly different than another 980ti at the same clocks. Some of that was due to the annoying nature of GPU Boost 2.0 and the card throttling, but I found throttling by the normal 13Mhz every now and again did not amount to the kind of variances we are seeing here. Tom's 980ti was ridiculously powerful, far more than any other 980ti I'd seen reviewed. Maybe a Kingpin or HOF on water hit those numbers, but not that I've seen. To emphasis that point, check out Tomb Raider—the ASUS 980 SLI setup is equal to his 980ti OC card. That's ridiculous and no other review I've seen shows anywhere near that kind of performance from a single 980ti. Also, Tom's AMD Fury performance numbers were always behind what others were getting, including myself. This shows how a particular driver and card can vary widely. Something was at play there that caused such vastly different results.
 
For me, the aftermarket GTX 1070 is the one to wait for. :D

Honestly I think this is going to be the goto card and the main competition with AMD, then of cause nVidia will drop the 1050 and 1060 into the lower tear bracket making things real interesting.
 
1080 throttle issues

Gamernexus a true pc enthusiast swapped in a hybrid cooler from the 980ti by evga with the FE1080. They found out that besides benchmarking for short sessions once you game more than 10 minutes the game throttles down to 1600 mhz at default fan speeds. You have to run the fan at 100% to get those boost clocks. With the water cooled setup the boost clocks definitely were sustained. But the 1080 would not oc past 2100 mhz for a stable gaming sessions. This could be because the limited 8 pin power supply, but even when they undervolted the memory the core couldn't go higher.
There was a meta analysis with compiling all the data from all reviews concluding that a 980 ti non reference performs similarly. Newegg actually selling a msi gold 980ti for $539 currently. Unless you are planning to game at 100 fan speeds those oc results are useless after a few minutes gaming.

Im more excited on what non reference designs will bring to the table.

The gtx 980 was also double the performance of the gk 104 and superior than the titan black but it launched at $549! So the 1080 is definitely overpriced.
 
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Compelling argument and data, I'd like to see just how the 1080 handles a real gaming session and by that I mean a couple of hours each in GTA V, rise of the tomb raider, Crysis 3, Shadow of Mordor, the Witcher 3, Thief, really monitoring those numbers on a real world application rather than synthetic benches maybe also throw in some 3d model renderings too.
 
Gamernexus a true pc enthusiast swapped in a hybrid cooler from the 980ti by evga with the FE1080. They found out that besides benchmarking for short sessions once you game more than 10 minutes the game throttles down to 1600 mhz at default fan speeds. You have to run the fan at 100% to get those boost clocks. With the water cooled setup the boost clocks definitely were sustained. But the 1080 would not oc past 2100 mhz for a stable gaming sessions. This could be because the limited 8 pin power supply, but even when they undervolted the memory the core couldn't go higher.
There was a meta analysis with compiling all the data from all reviews concluding that a 980 ti non reference performs similarly. Newegg actually selling a msi gold 980ti for $539 currently. Unless you are planning to game at 100 fan speeds those oc results are useless after a few minutes gaming.

Im more excited on what non reference designs will bring to the table.

The gtx 980 was also double the performance of the gk 104 and superior than the titan black but it launched at $549! So the 1080 is definitely overpriced.
Yeah, this review here details all of what you're saying there and then some. It's pretty good. Is that the meta analysis you were referring to?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myDYnofz_JE

This Founders Edition card is slowly becoming less and less interesting to me. The hype surrounding nVidia is real.
 
Comparing again, now to non OC'd aftermarket card; the Asus Strix.

10 fps difference : 103 vs 113 (again, Tomb raider)

That is a little less than 10%....

Ok, so it not "fair" to compare because one is vanilla and the other aftermarket.

But then again. This is the "new king" and it 10% faster than what you coulis buy before. Not more.
 
Comparing again, now to non OC'd aftermarket card; the Asus Strix.

10 fps difference : 103 vs 113 (again, Tomb raider)

That is a little less than 10%....

Ok, so it not "fair" to compare because one is vanilla and the other aftermarket.

But then again. This is the "new king" and it 10% faster than what you coulis buy before. Not more.

I assume there will be a 1080ti at some point, so the 1080 isn't really a 980ti replacement. Tomb Raider is also an AMD game, isn't it? Drivers are probably also far from optimized. I'd give it some time before judging the card.
 
I assume there will be a 1080ti at some point, so the 1080 isn't really a 980ti replacement. Tomb Raider is also an AMD game, isn't it? Drivers are probably also far from optimized. I'd give it some time before judging the card.
I agree, we should give it more time. So why has virtually every reviewer praised it to the high heavens despite its ridiculous price tag and throttling?
 
I agree, we should give it more time. So why has virtually every reviewer praised it to the high heavens despite its ridiculous price tag and throttling?

Probably because when compared to what it should replace, disregarding the price, it's a pretty good card with loads of potential. It's a bit like reviewing a Ferrari, sure it's overpriced and it's really not that much better than other, slightly older cars in the same price segment, but it's still a good car.
 
I assume there will be a 1080ti at some point, so the 1080 isn't really a 980ti replacement. Tomb Raider is also an AMD game, isn't it? Drivers are probably also far from optimized. I'd give it some time before judging the card.

Nvidia perform better in Tomb Raider. No need to give the card time.. it's released. They should have had plenty of time already
 
Probably because when compared to what it should replace, disregarding the price, it's a pretty good card with loads of potential. It's a bit like reviewing a Ferrari, sure it's overpriced and it's really not that much better than other, slightly older cars in the same price segment, but it's still a good car.
That's a fair point. As a 980 replacement, it's a phenomenal beast with a lot of potential. But it's not a 980ti/Titan X ass whooper, just like the 980 wasn't a 780ti ass whooper.
 
That's a fair point. As a 980 replacement, it's a phenomenal beast with a lot of potential. But it's not a 980ti/Titan X ass whooper, just like the 980 wasn't a 780ti ass whooper.

Then don't price it directly and higher than a 980ti. Doesn't matter if you think it's not a 980ti replacement. The fact is price wise that's what they are aiming it at. Of course it's faster than a 980, there were cards out that already have done that. Nothing was faster than a 980ti. It barely beats that.. But it destroys on price... So it's fair to compare it. After all perf/$ here is still important.
 
Lets not forget here this is the opening act and its twice the performance per what of the card it replaces.

If that trend continues then f-me-sideways

Founders is expensive, Ive expained why. It doesnt really need continued debate.
 
Lets not forget here this is the opening act and its twice the performance per what of the card it replaces.

If that trend continues then f-me-sideways

Founders is expensive, Ive expained why. It doesnt really need continued debate.
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