Nvidia GTX 1070 specifications detailed
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It was the same with 980/970 (probably even with older revisions) both of them had 5.2B transistors however the 970 had nearly 400 less CUDA cores enabled.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
A lot of harsh words about Nvidia you've been saying recently. Can't help but feel there's a story behind all of this^_^
jimma47
New member
I'll grab the popcorn.
Dawelio
Active member
Wraith
Bettyswollocks
Please continue... gather round boys and girls, it's story time.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Wraith
Bettyswollocks
Ha ha, come on Kushiro it's a quiet night/morning here not much happening give us some story time. I'm so bored!Even Moderator approved!
So let's here the story Kushiro
OK.
So once upon a time in a country far far away, there was a humble guy (lets call him K for the sake of anomnimity ) who was running a humble little buisness. Now K accepts a lot of client orders whether they be cutsom PCs, networks etc etc.
K's unfortunate luck begins at the launch of the 970. Many clients were very unhappy with K, especially the smaller clients and the ones who were ordering for their kids. Now the clients thought that K was responsible for the products that he sold, evedently so did K. So K recalled all the orders that received complaints along with a notice to each and evey client that ordered a system recently. K was very sad/unhappy with the loss he was getting, however it was better to lead an honest and repuitable buisness instead of creating a fuss that could eventually cause the buisness to fail.
K ended up having to send the cards back for a refund, the distributor originally wanted to charge a 25% restocking fee, however managed to get them back for 15%
Now here comes K's worst part. There were quite a few orders for systems with Titan X cards due to K having a few PCs with said card running when they came to meet and discuss their needs. Even though K advised against it, many ordered it anyways cause they had the cash to burn for their kids.
After about a month later, K found his email flooded with complaints. Lo and behold, not only were they unhappy about the temps and the noise, almost of the cards had overheated due to faulty fans or poor cooler placement etc. Now K was really regreting not opening the cards up to inspect prior to dispatch as he usally does with EVGA or second hand cards, however due to the warranty void if remove stickers K was reluctant. Clearly Ks 12 hour test before dispatch needed some thought, but what could he do customers dont really like waiting. In the end K change the testing period to future orders to 24hours with the option for only a quick basic test. The worst part was that some of the warranty void if removed stickers fell off. Who in the lovely audience would like to guess what happened?
YES the manufacturers didnt want to honor the warranty even though the card obviously wasnt tampered with and only died from Natural causes. K decided to contact nVidia only to get a bot like CS rep, so was their manager etc. No one wanted to take responsibility. Then K saw a faint ray of hope one lunch, it was an email from the distributor in regards to the warranty telling me that they had accepted the warranty claim! K thought YES relief. HELL NO they told K that K neeeded to ship them back to the manufacturers for testing and approval before they would do anything. This time K was liable for all the shipping. K thought well ok, not like the cards died due to tampering. About 2 months or so later K got word, the warranty application was approved, HOWEVER it was for the original ones K sent in that still had the stickers. Not for the ones that K just sent in. Slap right in the face. K was really considering taking this further, however decided it was taking more time than it was worth as most of his income wasnt from Custom PCs etc anyways. It was also taking a toll on his mood etc too. Enough was enough.
Unfortunately due to this incident K lost about a months worth of income due to shipping, time wasted going back and forth with distributors, keeping the clients happy, organizing the returns and replacements, refunding out of pocket, as well as a lot of other stuff.
To be continued... There is still a lot. Subscribe for more ppl
If I typed out the entire story it would take people hours to finish and me an extra few hours to type. Only highlighted the 2 major incidents in this part.
So once upon a time in a country far far away, there was a humble guy (lets call him K for the sake of anomnimity
) who was running a humble little buisness. Now K accepts a lot of client orders whether they be cutsom PCs, networks etc etc. K's unfortunate luck begins at the launch of the 970. Many clients were very unhappy with K, especially the smaller clients and the ones who were ordering for their kids. Now the clients thought that K was responsible for the products that he sold, evedently so did K. So K recalled all the orders that received complaints along with a notice to each and evey client that ordered a system recently. K was very sad/unhappy with the loss he was getting, however it was better to lead an honest and repuitable buisness instead of creating a fuss that could eventually cause the buisness to fail.
K ended up having to send the cards back for a refund, the distributor originally wanted to charge a 25% restocking fee, however managed to get them back for 15%
Now here comes K's worst part. There were quite a few orders for systems with Titan X cards due to K having a few PCs with said card running when they came to meet and discuss their needs. Even though K advised against it, many ordered it anyways cause they had the cash to burn for their kids.
After about a month later, K found his email flooded with complaints. Lo and behold, not only were they unhappy about the temps and the noise, almost of the cards had overheated due to faulty fans or poor cooler placement etc. Now K was really regreting not opening the cards up to inspect prior to dispatch as he usally does with EVGA or second hand cards, however due to the warranty void if remove stickers K was reluctant. Clearly Ks 12 hour test before dispatch needed some thought, but what could he do customers dont really like waiting. In the end K change the testing period to future orders to 24hours with the option for only a quick basic test. The worst part was that some of the warranty void if removed stickers fell off. Who in the lovely audience would like to guess what happened?
YES the manufacturers didnt want to honor the warranty even though the card obviously wasnt tampered with and only died from Natural causes. K decided to contact nVidia only to get a bot like CS rep, so was their manager etc. No one wanted to take responsibility. Then K saw a faint ray of hope one lunch, it was an email from the distributor in regards to the warranty telling me that they had accepted the warranty claim! K thought YES relief. HELL NO they told K that K neeeded to ship them back to the manufacturers for testing and approval before they would do anything. This time K was liable for all the shipping. K thought well ok, not like the cards died due to tampering. About 2 months or so later K got word, the warranty application was approved, HOWEVER it was for the original ones K sent in that still had the stickers. Not for the ones that K just sent in. Slap right in the face. K was really considering taking this further, however decided it was taking more time than it was worth as most of his income wasnt from Custom PCs etc anyways. It was also taking a toll on his mood etc too. Enough was enough.
Unfortunately due to this incident K lost about a months worth of income due to shipping, time wasted going back and forth with distributors, keeping the clients happy, organizing the returns and replacements, refunding out of pocket, as well as a lot of other stuff.
To be continued... There is still a lot. Subscribe for more ppl
If I typed out the entire story it would take people hours to finish and me an extra few hours to type. Only highlighted the 2 major incidents in this part.
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Wraith
Bettyswollocks
Well.... damn! That's pretty bone if I'm honest, and to be fair the main reason I didn't go into selling custom builds myself, I stuck with repairs and cleaning but that dream was smashed by new government legislation and the introduction of Iain Duncan Smites lovely Universal Credit system.. but that's another story. Still sorry to hear your sad tale of disappointment.
jimma47
New member
Was the 970 issue the .5gb slower memory or something else?
K should claim warranty RMA because the sticker fell off (not functioning as intended)
That's a very expensive lesson. You can see why small businesses can sometimes be a pain to deal with on returns. They feel obligated to look after the customer (edit- who's usually difficult) but at the same time they're being ripped by the distributor and manufacturers.
K should claim warranty RMA because the sticker fell off (not functioning as intended)
That's a very expensive lesson. You can see why small businesses can sometimes be a pain to deal with on returns. They feel obligated to look after the customer (edit- who's usually difficult) but at the same time they're being ripped by the distributor and manufacturers.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
I can see why you despise Nvidia..
Bet you can't wait to sell those 980ti's.
I have reasons to dislike them, but yours are far more personal! Sorry to hear the bad luck dude.
Bet you can't wait to sell those 980ti's.
I have reasons to dislike them, but yours are far more personal! Sorry to hear the bad luck dude.
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AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
My 970 wouldn't work with GTA V. Constant crashes. Everyone said it was down to Rockstar, but as soon as I replaced the card (with the AMD Fury), no problems. The crash was incredibly common, but no one found a definitive answer. I think I did—send that son of a building block back for a refund. Many tried underclocking, and for some that worked temporarily, but in the end it was just a faulty graphics card. The 970 was a flawed stroke of genius. 980-like performance when overclocked for €340... but with a caveat.
Doomslayer
New member
I was able to play GTA V with a 970 with no problem, but when i own a R9 390. For me when i own the 390 GTA V didn't really run as smooth as the Nvidia card now.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Far more people ran GTA V fine with the 970 than running poorly. I didn't mean to categorically claim the 970 was faulty in GTA V for everyone, but that game did show up a lot of failings with Maxwell in particular, either because Maxwell happened to be the most popular group of cards to run at the time of GTA V's release or because Maxwell had a high failure rate when paired with a game as demanding as GTA V.
Wraith
Bettyswollocks
Nah I ran these dual 950s on GTA V and it ran a solid 60FPS with settings up high - very high with Ultra grass and it performed flawlessly. Even with SAOO and MSAA, quite a few had issue with the V-Sync slamming down to 30 frames but that was easy fixed on the fly.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
I'm not saying you didn't run fine in GTA V. I'm saying I and hundreds if not thousands of others didn't, and when I replaced my GPU the problem went away. That's all I'm saying. If 950 SLI worked well, I'm not questioning that.
