Nvidia GT 630
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then what the hell are we supposed to tell you. yes it is bottlenecked, no there is no free fix. roll with it.
i have explained it multiple times. those GPUs work in different ways. YES the 630 is bottlenecked, YES the 4670 is less bottlenecked/not bottlenecked. in general those cards are nearly on an even level.
Its not necessary to explain it multiple times, just one is enough, but has to be specific.
What do u mean "those gpu's"? u mean the new ones? GT 630 is one of them, 4670 is not?
If yes, then it makes some sense. And explains why that site gives +200 points to 630.
What do u mean "those cards are nearly on an even level"?
Which cards?
What do u mean "those gpu's"? u mean the new ones? GT 630 is one of them, 4670 is not?
If yes, then it makes some sense. And explains why that site gives +200 points to 630.
What do u mean "those cards are nearly on an even level"?
Which cards?
the gt 630 and the 4670.
How is possible gt 630 and 4670 be even when WEI gives 6.6 and 6.8 ?
Plus that gt 630 gives less fps in "FlatOut 2-Ultimate Carnage".
One explanation could be that gt 630 receives bottleneck from 7750, while 4670 not.
There is a confusion. Is 630 weaker, equal or faster than 4670 ?
If the above explanation is right, then 630 is faster.
Plus that gt 630 gives less fps in "FlatOut 2-Ultimate Carnage".
One explanation could be that gt 630 receives bottleneck from 7750, while 4670 not.
There is a confusion. Is 630 weaker, equal or faster than 4670 ?
If the above explanation is right, then 630 is faster.
first of all, don't you ever quote WEI again, that stuff doesn't mean anything. base your stuff on real benchmarks.
there is never a clear winner, some games are optimized for AMD, some are optimized for nvidida.
the reason why the 630 does better than the 4670 in FlatOut2 is that FO2 probably doesnt utilize the CPU much, i.e. the bottleneck is smaller.
The 630 is overall a better card, it just cant do better because games don't just use the GPU. some are more CPU dependent and therefore need a better CPU to run properly.
With even i meant that the performance difference isn't that big between those two cards. Therefore optimization can easily make the difference.
My friend...
I said that 4670 gives more fps in FO2, not the 630. And thats weird. Because supposed that 630 is better than the old 4670.
If u dont like wei, then try 3dmark06, I m sure u ll get the same result.
Especially in cpu's and cards, when wei gives better score in a devive, means that device is better. Thats what I think, but maybe u know better.
What do u mean "optimization"? Optimize how?
Since when games dont use the gpu? Is this a new evolution?
Suppose that the better card, the faster u ll run the game. Otherwise why should we buy a faster/expensive card
remember300
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My friend...
I said that 4670 gives more fps in FO2, not the 630. And thats weird. Because supposed that 630 is better than the old 4670.
If u dont like wei, then try 3dmark06, I m sure u ll get the same result.
Especially in cpu's and cards, when wei gives better score in a devive, means that device is better. Thats what I think, but maybe u know better.
What do u mean "optimization"? Optimize how?
Since when games dont use the gpu? Is this a new evolution?
Suppose that the better card, the faster u ll run the game. Otherwise why should we buy a faster/expensive card
WEI ... thats to tell you if your pc can run win aero not gaming, it will say its better for gaming but thats not a true test. benchmarks test the power of the card in general not trying to see if its at a level...
Depending on the Mobo along with the CPU, some will assist the GPU some will bottle neck, make sure your friend has the latest drivers.
try a few other games not specifically "powered by amd" and then come back and tell us the true story.
My friend...
I said that 4670 gives more fps in FO2, not the 630. And thats weird. Because supposed that 630 is better than the old 4670.
If u dont like wei, then try 3dmark06, I m sure u ll get the same result.
Especially in cpu's and cards, when wei gives better score in a devive, means that device is better. Thats what I think, but maybe u know better.
What do u mean "optimization"? Optimize how?
Since when games dont use the gpu? Is this a new evolution?
Suppose that the better card, the faster u ll run the game. Otherwise why should we buy a faster/expensive card
alright i misread the FO2 part, but it works the other way around as well.
Games utilize the GPU but they all utilize it to a different amount. for example if you play online your framerate will usually drop because the game then needs more CPU power.
Your problem is the CPU, not the GPU. Well, actually both are pretty bad, but if you want to use the 630 to it's full extend you need a better CPU, there is no way around spending money.
demonking
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wow can't believe how long this has been going on for.
ok basically the 4670 was(at its release) a mid range gaming card so its architecture is designed to to process a fair amount of textures and pixels.
any Nvidia card with a 30 or 40 prefix is not designed for gaming. these cards are basically designed for video playback on CPU's which only have low end integrated graphics chips
so for current games to run at any kind of decent settings you would need at least a x60 series from Nvidia or a x6xx/x7xx series card from AMD.
the first number is the series so higher series cards are more efficient and come with new technology but bigger price tags. the second set of numbers tells you how high in the series that card is e.g: a gt 670 is better than a 660ti which is better than a 660 and so on and the top (not including specials such as the titan) usually is the 90 series from Nvidia or 900 series from AMD
so what your friend has bought is basically a video rendering card that could be used for gaming instead of a gaming card that can do video rendering.
just remember that you get what you pay for, and buy cheap buy twice.
ok basically the 4670 was(at its release) a mid range gaming card so its architecture is designed to to process a fair amount of textures and pixels.
any Nvidia card with a 30 or 40 prefix is not designed for gaming. these cards are basically designed for video playback on CPU's which only have low end integrated graphics chips
so for current games to run at any kind of decent settings you would need at least a x60 series from Nvidia or a x6xx/x7xx series card from AMD.
the first number is the series so higher series cards are more efficient and come with new technology but bigger price tags. the second set of numbers tells you how high in the series that card is e.g: a gt 670 is better than a 660ti which is better than a 660 and so on and the top (not including specials such as the titan) usually is the 90 series from Nvidia or 900 series from AMD
so what your friend has bought is basically a video rendering card that could be used for gaming instead of a gaming card that can do video rendering.
just remember that you get what you pay for, and buy cheap buy twice.
i assumed that the benchmarks he found weren't bullshit and therefore the 630 should outperform the 4670 in an ideal environment. Prefixes don't really explain anything here, because the 4670 is at least 2 years older than the 630. the 630 can very well be better and i am rather sure his benchmarks are valid.
but i second the cheap cards part. never buy cheap, in the longrun you pay more and get less.
demonking
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aye i agree with you,
just trying to make some sense to this guy.
his card has 96 cores and the 4670 has 320 stream processors
I personally think that the 4670 will perform better in gaming than the 630 despite the age.
i think it would be like comparing an i5 750 against an AMD A4 3300.
that old i5 is still better for gaming even thought the A4 has newer tech
but im going off topic now.
just trying to make some sense to this guy.
his card has 96 cores and the 4670 has 320 stream processors
I personally think that the 4670 will perform better in gaming than the 630 despite the age.
i think it would be like comparing an i5 750 against an AMD A4 3300.
that old i5 is still better for gaming even thought the A4 has newer tech
but im going off topic now.
remember300
Active member
Not really off topic mate you were just validating
and i agree, was just annoyed with the whole WEI thing
well, in history AMD used to have way more stream processors than nvidia, but still they performed even. i would not judge just on the core count.
also a 4670 is by no means equal to a nehalem i5, i3 at max. it's like low end I3 vs AMD APU.
Thats what I think too. Apparently my friend made a great mistake, replacing the broken 4670 with 630. The 630 seems to be overpriced, 65-70€ for a little s*it like this?
